But if I find a large enough community of similarly-inclined people, it might be possible to get a substantial fraction of that, which would be good enough
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BrianFreud
I wonder how much file storage space the entire database would represent, if it was all stored as flac?
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dholmes
A lot ;)
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dholmes
But if Moore's Law holds up, one day we'll probably be able to store all that on a flash drive
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Citizen
the statistic on the menu on the left says "Tracks 5764618"
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Citizen
every track with 3 or 4 minutes... as an average
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BrianFreud
hmmm, figure an average 4 minutes per track, 10 meg per minute of flac... 230.58 TB
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Citizen
23058472 minutes of music
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Citizen
that's not that much
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dholmes
10 meg per minute is a bit pessemistic for FLAC
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Citizen
230 people with two 500 gb HDDs
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dholmes
But yeah, that's probably around the right order of magnitude
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BrianFreud
must... pass... petabyte
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BrianFreud
lol
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Citizen
Brian 'Homer' Freud
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Citizen
my goal is to know how many and which releases I own... i'm out of space and have them on three or four places in my flat...
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dholmes
If Moore's Law holds up, I think 30-40 years should be enough to store 230 TB on a single USB key
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BrianFreud
well, the 1 TB drives just started coming out
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Citizen
i recently had the problem that i wasn't sure if i should buy a CD on ebay or if i already own it :-/
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BrianFreud
I hear they're really loud though... 5 200 gb platters
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Citizen
hmm... wait two years...
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FauxFaux
Citizen: Heh heh heh, I have three copies of at least one cd due to it being easier to ebay it than to find it in my room (or my post pile, for the second case). :p
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dholmes
Yeah
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dholmes
That's why I digitize my collection and don't use CDs =D
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BrianFreud
agreed
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BrianFreud
you hit a certain point in # of CDs, digitial is the only way that makes sense anymore
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FauxFaux
Aha!
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FauxFaux
I was going to write a duplicate file scanner earlier, thanks for reminding me. Damn you, python.
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BrianFreud
hehe
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Citizen
well... i want to start to rip them all to mp3 now... will take some weeks though... i wait for the next EAC release, the latest one crashes here too often
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BrianFreud
FauxFaux: looking for identical mbid tags?
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dholmes
Citizen, why not just go for lossless FLAC files? The storage is getting cheaper and cheaper
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BrianFreud
or ogg -8
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FauxFaux
Identical mbids with different "musicmagic data"s is a serious concern (mistagged), follwed by duplicate musicmagic+musicbrainz tags -> wasted disk space.
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Citizen
dholmes i know... but i want to buy a mp3 player for jogging and so on... i think none of those plays flac
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FauxFaux
Ogg -8 is sick. :P
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dholmes
Well, some of them do, but you don't really want to put files of that size on one
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Citizen
and i don't have a good sound system here, i'm only a student... so flac or mp3... i don't hear any difference here
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FauxFaux
(Not that I don't use it for certain cds ;p)
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BrianFreud
lol, I use -8 for most everything, -10 if I *really* like it
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FauxFaux
There's a -10?!
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BrianFreud
yep
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dholmes
For Linux there are some programs that transcode the files for you automatically though, and for Linux and Mac there's a FUSE filesystem that converts all your FLAC to MP3 on the fly
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BrianFreud
comes to about 5 mb per min :P
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dholmes
I haven't tried that out though
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dholmes
But then again if you're waiting for a EAC release you're probably not using Linux or Mac =D
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FauxFaux plays 'Voodoo & Serano' - 'Overload (Friday Night Posse remix)' from 'Clubland X-Treme (disc 2)' [2003-04-14], ogg -8, which averages ~420kbps, it's almost smaller as flac, picking a better lossless codec and you might actually get smaller.
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Citizen
dholmes yes, windows xp now (till january it was still win98)... but at work I have Linux
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cooperaa
hey guys
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FauxFaux
'lo.
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cooperaa
anyone know where Picard tries to find libofa on *nix?
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dholmes
I don't, but isn't that sort of thing normally supposed to be handled by the system?
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cooperaa
I would think so
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cooperaa
still, Picard reports it cannot find libofa or a decoder
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cooperaa
which is midly annoying, because I guess it has no problem finding libdiscid
its just wierd and i wanted to dump it on someone ese
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cooperaa
haha
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SenRepus
else
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SenRepus
someone smarter than me!
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cooperaa
what's wrong with it?
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SenRepus
the releases names start with CD2 or CD3 which makes no sense to me
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cooperaa
oh good gravy
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cooperaa
so those look like subtitles then
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cooperaa
so we are on a quest to find the actual release title
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SenRepus
you mean you are?
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SenRepus cackles maniacly
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cooperaa
:)
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cooperaa
luckily, they are open edits
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cooperaa
so I'm just going to vote "no" and say "proof please"
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SenRepus
vote no?
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cooperaa
not everyone!
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cooperaa
just someone to ensure we get some answers
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cooperaa
or maybe I won't vote no
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SenRepus
damn
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SenRepus
me either
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SerialNumber
Wow, those are some interesting titles there.
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SenRepus
hes a memeber
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cooperaa
I'll just say please correct the release title
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cooperaa
ok well I asked for clarification
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cooperaa
back to essay\
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cooperaa
unless... any of you would like to write 3 or 4 pages about why a pharmaceutical company should not send potentially harmful drugs to third world countries even though their governments cannot detect the harmful chemicals that the United States' tests can.
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cooperaa
any takers?
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drsaunde
maybe you should watch the Constant Gardner instead ? :-)
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SenRepus
im more about animal rights than human rights
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SenRepus
im on of "those people"
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cooperaa
oh no...
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cooperaa
:)
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cooperaa
hehe
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cooperaa
anyone like post-rock?
2007-06-04 15522, 2007
cooperaa
(I have ADD, apprently)
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cooperaa
seriously, I'm closing IRC and doing my essay! later
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Citizen
good night & bye
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SenRepus
is "Konzeption" german for produced by?
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Citizen
it's german, but it means 'concept by'
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catgroove
wtf is moore's law?
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catgroove
ARG missedru again
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catgroove
he should phoned menot sms, since I am all owverthe place, can't hear a bip for m the phone
will finish vacuume, and do ruaoks bed thing tomorrow
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catgroove
dholmes: thanks, but itgoesa nit over my head
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dholmes
Basically, the amount of transistors you can make for a price doubles every 24 months, so the storage capacity of a class of device made out of transistors will double every 24 months. It doesn't really work like that for storage, but that's the basic argument
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dholmes
It's just a vague and weak explanation of why there will probably be USB thumb drives that can hold 230,000 GB in 30-40 years
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catgroove
see this is the problem, price= money?, class of device= erh?, transistor= wtf
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dholmes
Yeah, just don't think about it too much
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catgroove
ok
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catgroove
I'm taking a dusj andthne I'm going to bed ^_^
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dholmes
"A bunch of stuff will double every 24 months" ;)
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catgroove
tell ru (if he comesback in) that I got his sms
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dholmes
Sure
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dholmes
Er, ru?
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catgroove
ruaokaokarob
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dholmes
Oh, him
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dholmes
Okay =D
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catgroove
:)
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catgroove
catgroove is now known as nightgroove
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nightgroove
nattafuu
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BrianFreud
night mo :)
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BrianFreud
Would a compilation of pieces from various soundtracks, a "best of so and so composer" set, be a compilation or a soundtrack?
