mo: I entered a set right up your avenue of interest last night :)
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ruaok
one of the most peaceful and beautiful cemetaries I've ever seen.
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ruaok
even beat the one in reykjavik
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BrianFreud
When you get back, I'll have to send you that link to my step-dad's website again. Ever since we stopped doing the playa golf, he's been specializing in graveyard photography.
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ruaok
cool.
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ruaok
I'll have some pictures to upload but my memory card was full.
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ruaok
so I'll take more tomorrow.
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BrianFreud
:)
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BrianFreud
You mean we actually get to see mo? :P
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Jugdish
hey ruaok
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Jugdish
what took you to norway?
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ruaok
BrianFreud: I'll let catgroove answer that question.
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ruaok
Jugdish: I'm half danish and I really like scandinavia.
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ruaok
plus I've never been to norway.
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Jugdish
hehe, fair enough
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ruaok
and with mo living in norway its cheap way to see one of the most expensive cities in all of europe.
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Jugdish is a scandinaviophile as well
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ruaok
of course I came from London to Oslo.
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ruaok
from expensive to freaking expensive.
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Jugdish
heh
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BrianFreud
Oslo really that expensive?
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srotta
With all that oil they've lost their grasp on reality.
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juhae
if you work in norway, it's not really that expensive at all
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ruaok
iceland was worse.
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ruaok
and after london its not quite as bad as I expected.
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juhae
i have a few friends who do various jobs in norway for a few months a time
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ruaok
but not having to pay for a hotel, is key
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juhae
then come back to finland for a "vacation"
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juhae
since they earn some serious money over there
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BrianFreud
hmmm, I guess I always think of London and Paris as the expensive centers, with all the rest comparatively cheap - but it's been a few years since I was over there, so I'm a bit out of date
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juhae
i can only imagine what it is for estonians and russians :)
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ruaok
I never thought that paris is that bad.
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BrianFreud
Last I was there, maybe 10 years ago, depended where you went. You could do it on the cheap, but it could get pricy quick
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juhae
just managing to avoid the places meant for casual tourists should make everything rather affordable
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BrianFreud
that was the problem I found in Paris - so much was "tourist" area, harder to find those cheaper areas
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BrianFreud
nothing as bad as DC, though... was nice living there, but tourist or not, very expensive
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warp
the arcade is expensive in paris :)
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warp
food and such i wouldn't know, i don't pay attention to that much.
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BrianFreud
some good cheap resaturants in greektown in Paris, if you want good food and cheap prices
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BrianFreud
least there used to be
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warp
i think i went to some decently priced thai restaurant in some rather asian area (a freenode friend works there, we had lunch :)
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SerialNumber
"1978-11-11: Special Treatment: The Cryptic One, London, UK" is the correct MB title for "Special Treatment: Live at the Cryptic One London", right?
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BrianFreud
SerialNumber: If it's a pressed boot, depends how technically redundant you want to get
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BrianFreud
It could be that, or it could be 1978-11-11: Special Treatment: Live at the Cryptic One London: The Cryptic One, London, UK
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dholmes
So if I try to split out the MFSL release of Nirvana's "Nevermind" into a separate release, will an angry mob of Nirvana subscribers hunt me down and try to kill me?
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Aankhen``
dholmes: That could be arranged for a fee.
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dholmes
Er, I don't actually _want_ that chain of events to transpire... :P
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Aankhen``
That's what they all say.
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Aankhen``
Right before I punch them in the teeth.
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Aankhen``
Do you want to be punched in the teeth, dholmes?
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dholmes
...
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Aankhen``
Cough up the money.
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Aankhen``
You can run, but you can't hide!
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Aankhen``
...okay, so you can hide. So I'm not very good at finding people. Come out now. :-(
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dholmes
:P
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dholmes
I'm trying to decide if I should go to the trouble of writing up a detailed case for why this should be policy, or if I should just do it and see what happens
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Aankhen``
Heh.
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Aankhen``
Good luck!
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catgroove
hello all
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dholmes
Hello!
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catgroove
:D
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Aankhen``
Heya catgroove.
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Aankhen``
Shouldn't you be asleep? ^_~
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Aankhen``
Aankhen`` is now known as Aankhen
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catgroove
yes
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catgroove
ru ishere :D
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catgroove
hmm
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ruaok
its only midnight.
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Aankhen
Aankhen is now known as Aankhen``
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ruaok
and we're discussing sleep right now. :)
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catgroove
I think i'm gonna be night groove now
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catgroove
night all
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Aankhen``
G'night.
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catgroove
catgroove is now known as nightgroove
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Aankhen``
My bedtime is around 3:00 AM, but I've found it to be a tad later than most other people.
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ruaok
me too. 3:00 is right for me too.
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nightgroove
lol
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Aankhen``
^_^
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Aankhen``
Of course, here in Canadia-land, dinner is at 6 and bed at 9 for most people. *shudders*
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nightgroove
^_^
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Aankhen``
(My family and I usually don't even start dinner before 10. :-P)
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nightgroove
I thought you moved back home :P
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Aankhen``
Silly boy.
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BrianFreud
dholmes: lol, just saw your note. the what release of Nevermind?
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BrianFreud
Aankhen``: agreed... crazy Canadians and their so called "normal" hours...
What matters to me is that it's a different mastering with less compression
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BrianFreud
yeah, that was their series. Why should it be split out?
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BrianFreud
hmmmm
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dholmes
It's back to the "different audio data" thing
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BrianFreud
That goes back to the whole discussion we had about when the "same" release is the same, and when its different
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dholmes
Yeah
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BrianFreud
IIRC, the general concensus we came to was,
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dholmes
I have both albums in FLAC on my hard drive, and they're definitely different audio data
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BrianFreud
If it is the same master tape, and the same master mix, if the times are within the 10 second PUID varience (so +-5s) we're treating it as the same release
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BrianFreud
So the German In Utero (or whichever it is) with the Albini mixes, rather than the Litt mixes, would be different
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BrianFreud
And the Neverminds with different times on track 12 would be different
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BrianFreud
but otherwise, imho, no need for yet *more* Neverminds... I think we already have 4 unique ones going by the above guidlines...
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dholmes
Yeah
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dholmes
These are indeed probably the same mix, with different production after that
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dholmes
But all the same, as it is I can't tag them both
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BrianFreud
hmmmm
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BrianFreud
See, my problem with making MFSL releases separate is, they're still working off the same master and mix
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dholmes
In fact if I tag the MFSL version with Picard 0.9, it tags it with the label "Geffen", which is exactly what it isn't; that's the whole point of having both ;)
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BrianFreud
well, Picard just pulls the 1st from the list - so if MFSL were in there, it'd still show as geffen
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BrianFreud
Problem is, then we have separate release entries for all MFSL, Super-Disc, etc
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BrianFreud
when they're really the same release, just sampled at 48kbs instead of 44kbs from the master mix
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dholmes
Well, if you ask me, it would be nice if MB had some more robust representation of the different versions of the album, for example, say one "Nevermind", and then entries for the separate versions under that
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BrianFreud
lol... NGS
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dholmes
And maybe a description of what each one is
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dholmes
Haha, yeah. I know this is never gonna happen unless I do it myself ;)
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BrianFreud
Well, I guess, do it - but I'm afraid of the precident
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dholmes
Oh, but they're not really the same release
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dholmes
The original Geffen release underwent more compression and has a louder overall volume level but a flatter range
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BrianFreud
Right - Geffen overdrove the compression, and used 44 kbps sampling
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BrianFreud
MFSL used less overdrive (though they too did it), and 48 kbps sampling on the gold cd version
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BrianFreud
I *guess* you could call that a slight enough variation on the master mix to justify a new release version
