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drsaunde
BrianF: Thought you were getting soundtracks in
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drsaunde just entered Inspector Clouseau
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BrianFreud
yeah, just making some hard drive space
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2:45 AM
BrianFreud
and testing the lastest version of the naming script :P
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2:47 AM
BrianFreud
have it doing duplicate checking correctly now :)
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HiFructose
your naming script is quite large heh
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3:02 AM
HiFructose still hasn't quite figured out how to use picardqt
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3:02 AM
dholmes
Hm? It works pretty much the same as the old Picard'
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3:02 AM
HiFructose
yeah well i haven't figured out that one either
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3:02 AM
dholmes
Ah
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3:02 AM
dholmes
Anything in particular tripping you up?
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3:03 AM
HiFructose
hmm
2007-06-05 15612, 2007
3:03 AM
HiFructose
basically
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3:03 AM
HiFructose starts picard
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3:03 AM
HiFructose
ok so it has 28 unmatched files
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3:04 AM
HiFructose
and
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3:04 AM
HiFructose
uh well call me dumb, but i just don't even know where to start
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3:04 AM
dholmes
Okay
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3:04 AM
dholmes
Well, the easiest way would be to select the unmatched files and click "Analyze" on the toolbar
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3:04 AM
HiFructose
mind you though, i have an own MB/PUID based retagger *written* myself in our app
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3:04 AM
HiFructose
i just want to say, i know how this stuff all works in the backend
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3:04 AM
dholmes
Oh
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3:04 AM
HiFructose
but i can't quite figure out how to _use_ picard
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3:05 AM
HiFructose
lol
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3:05 AM
HiFructose
i really don't wanna troll or such, i just can't get it to do something
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3:05 AM
HiFructose
if i use analyze, i figure it tries to find a PUID and a matching track id
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3:05 AM
dholmes
Well, if "Analyze" works, the songs should be moved to albums on the right side. It might make some mistakes though, and it might not work
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3:05 AM
HiFructose
then it creates an album tree branch at the right hand side, if not already existing, and places the track in there
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3:05 AM
HiFructose
that's about what i've figured out
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3:05 AM
dholmes
Yeah
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3:06 AM
HiFructose
ok but other than analyzing, there's no go?
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3:06 AM
HiFructose
in my tagger, people can, if they want to, select a matching release manually
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3:06 AM
dholmes
No, if that doesn't work, then click the track and click "Lookup"
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3:06 AM
dholmes
Then a web browser should open, and you can select an album there by clicking the "Tagger" icons that should appear on the web site
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dholmes
That adds the album to the right side
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3:07 AM
HiFructose
ah
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3:07 AM
HiFructose
ok now i have 1 album with 11 tracks, of which it seems it found matching information for 10, but not for 1
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3:07 AM
HiFructose
actually i don't know what the icons exactly mean
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HiFructose
sec.
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HiFructose makes a screenshot
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dholmes
Yeah, sometimes it'll be like that'
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dholmes
And sometimes if there are multiple versions of an album, it can get confusing
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3:08 AM
BrianFreud
dholmes: yep :P
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3:08 AM
BrianFreud
it even has its own wikipage now :P
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3:08 AM
dholmes
Maybe it needs some usability love
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HiFructose
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3:08 AM
HiFructose
here ^
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3:08 AM
HiFructose
you see the selected row?
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3:08 AM
HiFructose
why is the icon different from the other ones and what do they both mean anyway? heh
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3:08 AM
dholmes
Nice
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3:08 AM
dholmes
Is that Compiz or Beryl? ;)
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HiFructose
erm that's beryl
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BrianFreud
ok, that means that track wasn't found when matching for puids
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3:09 AM
BrianFreud
so it either matched to a different release, on the right, or it's still in the list on the left
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3:09 AM
dholmes
Yeah. If you can find the missing track on the left, you can drag/drop it to the track on the right
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3:09 AM
BrianFreud
either way if you find it you can drag it to that spot
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3:09 AM
HiFructose
couldn't find PUID for
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3:10 AM
BrianFreud
ok, so if you drag it over, assuming that MusicIP has seen that track at least once before, it now will have a puid, and the "Submit PUIDs" button up top will light up
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3:10 AM
HiFructose
wow ok that works all quite differently from how i coded it
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3:11 AM
dholmes
As for the icon question, the green bars represent how close a match picard thinks it is. If it's green and full, it's likely a correct match
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3:11 AM
dholmes
Note that at least on my system, that bit is buggy and it sometimes gives full green bars erroneously
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BrianFreud
lol, and on mine, I never see anything but red bars :P
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dholmes
Yeah, well, it's pre-release software, what can you do? ;)
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BrianFreud
yup
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BrianFreud
I get red even when it's the source for a cluster add release :P
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BrianFreud
track "01" doesn't seem to match very well to track "1"
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HiFructose
well PUID calculation is by my experience like 99% correct always anyway
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HiFructose
i wrote a gstreamer element to calculate PUIDs using libofa, and it just sometimes fails to find a PUID even if it seems to exist for that track
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HiFructose
very very rarely, but it sometimes happens
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ojnkpjg
i've seen it happen lots of times
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ojnkpjg
i think libofa is buggy
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ojnkpjg
i think it can't cope with audio files with a frequency above 44.1k
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HiFructose
hmm
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drsaunde
ojnkpjg: ping
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drsaunde
just sent you a msg...not sure what to do
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HiFructose
submit puids stays insensitive
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HiFructose
i guess it doesn't update when you enter credentials once it has already started
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3:25 AM
HiFructose
i mean, doesn't update the state of the submit puids button or "action" (don't know what the Qt term for 'actions' is)
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BrianFreud
So the button didn't light up when you manually matched the file?
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HiFructose
nope
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3:26 AM
BrianFreud
ok
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BrianFreud
first, have you entered username/pw?
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BrianFreud
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ojnkpjg
drsaunde, i think just add the same info
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ojnkpjg
i took that info from my 1997 cd
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drsaunde
okay...wasn't sure if that was unnessicary duplication
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drsaunde
but i guess they are seperate release events with just with the same UPC etc
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3:30 AM
drsaunde
brianF: You have me confused...I have never used PicardQT, so I don't know why you want me to look at that link
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HiFructose
BrianFreud: yeah
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HiFructose
BrianFreud: well, i entered it -after- it found the match
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HiFructose
it's just a simple logic glitch
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HiFructose
it doesn't enable submission when you enter credentials after something to submit is present
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BrianFreud
HiFructose: Ok. So you manually matched the file, and u/p is entered, but the button didn't light up?
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HiFructose
BrianFreud: yeah
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BrianFreud
ok
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BrianFreud
try something - right click on the file, and choose details
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BrianFreud
see if you have a tag entry for "puid"
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BrianFreud
a puid may not exist for the file
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HiFructose
yeah there is no puid
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HiFructose
in details
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BrianFreud
ok
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HiFructose
but...
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3:32 AM
HiFructose
the track has a green checkmark icon
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BrianFreud
and you did run analyse on it?
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HiFructose
whatever that means in picard..
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HiFructose
yeah
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BrianFreud
ok
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BrianFreud
that means that musicip has never seen the file
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HiFructose
hmm
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HiFructose
weird how the rest of the album have PUIDs
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3:33 AM
HiFructose checks it in BMP
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HiFructose
sec
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BrianFreud
don't worry about it - it just means that picardqt, when it fingerprinted for a puid, didn't get a match back from musicip
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BrianFreud
:) Only 6/25ths in, and my script already found me 4 gb of dupes :)
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HiFructose
yeah indeed
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HiFructose
the 7th file just has no PUID
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3:37 AM
HiFructose
that's freaking odd
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BrianFreud
well, you can either ignore it and save it now,
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3:38 AM
HiFructose
here's a theora video of how BMP does the release finding:
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3:38 AM
BrianFreud
or run it through musicip and re-manually match it tomorrow night, when it has a puid, and then you'll be able to submit the puid
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3:38 AM
HiFructose
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BrianFreud
ogg file?
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3:39 AM
BrianFreud
won't play...
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3:39 AM
HiFructose
yeah it's theora encode
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3:39 AM
HiFructose
+d
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3:39 AM
HiFructose
might not play
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HiFructose
esp. on windows i guess
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3:40 AM
BrianFreud
I have ogg codecs installed - I use ogg as my normal format
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3:40 AM
BrianFreud
I guess just not whatever codec this is in
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3:40 AM
BrianFreud
does BMP submit to MusicIP like the windows MusicIP client?
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3:42 AM
HiFructose
hmm no
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3:42 AM
HiFructose
it can only submit found PUID <-> track id pairs
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3:42 AM
BrianFreud
ok. Is there a MusicIP client for your os?
