yllona karin is german, by way of argentina (her parents escaped the holocaust)
2007-06-17 16816, 2007
yllona
just call adobe's 800 support number and they'll work it out... just takes time
2007-06-17 16816, 2007
BrianFreud sighs
2007-06-17 16833, 2007
BrianFreud
Oh well, some just don't know when to stop...
2007-06-17 16846, 2007
yllona suggests that BrianFreud have another fermented beverage ;)
2007-06-17 16848, 2007
BrianFreud
Ru, any chance we ever can get some way to /ignore a given editor?
2007-06-17 16849, 2007
BrianFreud
lol
2007-06-17 16853, 2007
BrianFreud
I cancelled the 2 edits with the most insanity, asking that everyone instead use the energy to vet a few new add edits. I got back, "when I first had a look at the Bob Marley CotM and questioned some of the changes you and mo were proposing, my views were dismissed out of hand and auto-edits took the place of any real debate. I happen to think you've completely messed up the various Marley pages, by deleting artists that had va
2007-06-17 16854, 2007
BrianFreud
I just hope that someone comes along one day and moves the releases back where they belong.
2007-06-17 16856, 2007
BrianFreud
oops
2007-06-17 16811, 2007
BrianFreud smacks keyboard with new batteries...
2007-06-17 16821, 2007
BrianFreud
sorry about that
2007-06-17 16819, 2007
yllona sends virtual beer to BrianFreud with tequila back
2007-06-17 16822, 2007
BrianFreud
hehe
2007-06-17 16835, 2007
BrianFreud
word of advice: Microsoft wireless keyboard suck
2007-06-17 16835, 2007
MBChatLogger
I hate the evil empire
2007-06-17 16837, 2007
yllona
BrianFreud: drink more, edit less -- preserve your sanity (what's left of it)
2007-06-17 16801, 2007
BrianFreud
oh, and ruaok: they may have released a new Mac version since I got out of the IT sales business, but as of 4 months ago, the only Mac version was standard
2007-06-17 16826, 2007
BrianFreud
had lots of clients who kept asking when they'd have a higher level out for mac
2007-06-17 16831, 2007
ruaok
thats about the last time I checked.
2007-06-17 16849, 2007
yllona
i thought there was a non-profit version for mac (finally)
2007-06-17 16859, 2007
BrianFreud
My intuit rep said it wasn't on the planning boards to have any but std
2007-06-17 16812, 2007
yllona
*yikes*
2007-06-17 16836, 2007
yllona
adds an intuit phone call to her calendar... it's official now
2007-06-17 16845, 2007
BrianFreud
aiming for the business IT world... may be 7% Mac in the real world, but the IT world, outside of graphics editing, it's about 0.5% Mac
2007-06-17 16814, 2007
yllona
but non-profit is heavy mac
2007-06-17 16837, 2007
BrianFreud
well, even on the PC side, they scaled down premier
2007-06-17 16851, 2007
BrianFreud
used to be each got its own box. Now it's all one box, and you just active the module you want
2007-06-17 16859, 2007
yllona
holy cow, i need to check what's up
2007-06-17 16810, 2007
BrianFreud
but the PC non-profit module basically got subsidized by all the other modules
2007-06-17 16824, 2007
yllona
okay, got ya
2007-06-17 16846, 2007
BrianFreud
:)
2007-06-17 16813, 2007
BrianFreud had to attend far far more licensing lectures than any human ought to ever go to
2007-06-17 16815, 2007
BrianFreud
hehe
2007-06-17 16854, 2007
yllona
yeah me too. corporate->non-profit->gub'mint
2007-06-17 16808, 2007
yllona
and back again, just for thrills
2007-06-17 16840, 2007
BrianFreud
yeah, I'm trying to find something in the corporate or govm't worlds these days
2007-06-17 16851, 2007
BrianFreud
just got sick and tired of sales
2007-06-17 16806, 2007
yllona
i can believe that
2007-06-17 16849, 2007
BrianFreud
lol, plus sales rots your IT skills like nothing else :P
2007-06-17 16820, 2007
yllona OT: is covered with mysterious bruises from the house move
though I have to admit, a good deal of it was already done by the two big Marley foundations... have a nice 200 or so page pdf (in obscenely small font) that's been very helpful :)
2007-06-17 16834, 2007
yllona
BrianFreud: on more note added
2007-06-17 16824, 2007
BrianFreud
HAHA
2007-06-17 16848, 2007
BrianFreud
yllona++ #for saying it plain :)
2007-06-17 16813, 2007
BrianFreud
oh yes - the 4th I couldn't remember earlier, just so he gets the props he deserves... drsaunde
2007-06-17 16816, 2007
yllona
BrianFreud: i forgot to mention this earler -- the main newspaper in Jamaica is name "The Gleaner" and is available online: http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/
2007-06-17 16821, 2007
BrianFreud
thanks - I've dug through it a little, but they don't have much of the old archival stuff
2007-06-17 16824, 2007
yllona
the gleaner goes back to the early 19th century, so you may want to drop an e-mail requesting an archive search if you can't acces from your local library
2007-06-17 16843, 2007
BrianFreud
sure... if we're still trying to do this project, I will :)
2007-06-17 16854, 2007
yllona
BrianFreud: what's your name?
2007-06-17 16800, 2007
BrianFreud
Brian :)
2007-06-17 16827, 2007
BrianFreud
lol
2007-06-17 16802, 2007
BrianFreud
hell, it's in my wikipage, no secret :) I just use this nick cause BrianS is always taken everwhere for a nick
2007-06-17 16802, 2007
yllona
okay just sent you arecommendation
2007-06-17 16824, 2007
BrianFreud
playing :)
2007-06-17 16823, 2007
BrianFreud
oddly enough, I was just trying to clean up one of his releases - ended up giving up on it, don't know his stuff well enough to get more done
BrianFreud: i'd drop a quick to the gleaner with specific questions, to see if they can point you to specific answers/refrences for marley trivia. the main goal would be recrut someone from the gleaner to assist with reggae on MB
2007-06-17 16815, 2007
BrianFreud
worth a shot :)
2007-06-17 16833, 2007
ruaok
NGS ver 2 should allow "this is what it says on the CD" people to peacefully coexist with the "this is what the music really is" people.
2007-06-17 16838, 2007
ruaok
should be really fun. and complicated.
2007-06-17 16850, 2007
BrianFreud
I hope so...
2007-06-17 16854, 2007
Joan_W joined the channel
2007-06-17 16809, 2007
BrianFreud
the "tagger DB" vs "accuracy DB" arguments get old :(
2007-06-17 16821, 2007
ruaok
understood.
2007-06-17 16827, 2007
BrianFreud
lol, not your fault :)
2007-06-17 16828, 2007
ruaok
but that was the hard work behind the summit.
2007-06-17 16837, 2007
ruaok
we'll handle that well in the future
2007-06-17 16845, 2007
BrianFreud applauds
2007-06-17 16855, 2007
Joan_W
yllona - you still there?
2007-06-17 16805, 2007
yllona
yes
2007-06-17 16823, 2007
Joan_W
have you heard from Beth recently. I have sent some emails, but not received a response.
2007-06-17 16831, 2007
Muz__ waves at Joan_W
2007-06-17 16836, 2007
Joan_W
hiya muz
2007-06-17 16844, 2007
Muz__
Hi :)
2007-06-17 16848, 2007
trotek has quit
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yllona
Joan_W: i see her logged into AIM. i can attempt a chat, one sec
2007-06-17 16830, 2007
trotek joined the channel
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ruaok waves at Joan_W
2007-06-17 16830, 2007
Joan_W
morning ru - did you enjoy your time in Norway?
2007-06-17 16831, 2007
ruaok
yes, very much so.
2007-06-17 16840, 2007
ruaok
nice to meet mo, nice to swim in oslo fjord.
2007-06-17 16856, 2007
yllona
Joan_W: AIM sent to beth, no reply as yet
2007-06-17 16807, 2007
Joan_W
I think while you were in Norway, half the inhabitants of Oslo were at a music festival in Ireland that I attended
2007-06-17 16832, 2007
ruaok
oh, is that why it seemed to empty?
2007-06-17 16834, 2007
Joan_W
thanks yllona - when you do speak to her, tell her to get her a**e back over here. We miss her.
2007-06-17 16852, 2007
yllona
yes, absolutely :)
2007-06-17 16808, 2007
Joan_W
and give her my best wishes
2007-06-17 16810, 2007
yllona
joan: where/how have you been
2007-06-17 16848, 2007
Joan_W
just got back from Ireland. We go every year to the Rory Gallagher Festival - my husbands all time favourite.
2007-06-17 16806, 2007
yllona
sounds like amazing fun
2007-06-17 16817, 2007
Muz__
Mmm Ireland
2007-06-17 16820, 2007
Muz__ has plans to go visit
2007-06-17 16835, 2007
Joan_W
small town - just 2,500 inhabitants except at festival time when it goes up to about 10,000. Gigs are held in the street and in the local pubs. Great fun
2007-06-17 16825, 2007
Joan_W
muz - you would like it - just try to go somewhere other than Dublin, which is just like any other city and expensive. Not so expensive when you get out of the city.
2007-06-17 16844, 2007
Muz__
I plan to visit up North, mainly to see someone
2007-06-17 16848, 2007
Muz__
Belshaft area
2007-06-17 16851, 2007
Muz__
Err, Belfast
2007-06-17 16854, 2007
Muz__
Damnit, habit :(
2007-06-17 16823, 2007
Joan_W
We go to a small town called Ballyshannon which is in Donegal, the northernmost of the Republic's counties and just four miles from the NI border
2007-06-17 16803, 2007
Muz__
Mmm, I don't really want to go near big cities, what with being in London, half the reason I go somewhere nowadays is to get away from this city nonsense
2007-06-17 16849, 2007
Joan_W
yllona - I very much liked the response you posted on that Marley edit.
2007-06-17 16837, 2007
yllona
thanks joan - time to end the madness :P
2007-06-17 16856, 2007
Joan_W
with him you are fighting a losing battle - seems to hate the world.
2007-06-17 16827, 2007
BrianFreud
OT: I have to give luks serious props for helping me get puid_submit.py working. Still massive amounts to go on my files, but I just checked: and
2007-06-17 16837, 2007
BrianFreud
1781 new PUIDs pulled out and submitted :)
2007-06-17 16854, 2007
yllona
yep, he's a nasty one. time to hoist him on his own petard -- he's a bull,ergo basically a coward
2007-06-17 16800, 2007
Joan_W
PUIDs - a completely foreign language.
2007-06-17 16804, 2007
BrianFreud
hehe
2007-06-17 16813, 2007
Muz__ wonders what the drama is all about this time
2007-06-17 16833, 2007
yllona
Joan_W: pee-weeds the new format for acoustic fingerprints on MB
2007-06-17 16840, 2007
Joan_W
nothing really muz - he is just trying to see if he can get us all riled up.
2007-06-17 16850, 2007
Muz__
Fair do's
2007-06-17 16852, 2007
BrianFreud
I'm convinced half my unsorted crap is duplicates, and already in the database, just really badly tagged in the unsorted bin. Hoping getting the puids in makes those easy to find.
2007-06-17 16855, 2007
Joan_W
yllona - I am basically a technophobe. I love computers and what they can do for me but I hate mp3's, would rather listen to music direct from the CD or vinyl and, therefore, cannot see the need for me personally to ever tag anything.
2007-06-17 16806, 2007
BrianFreud
lol
2007-06-17 16821, 2007
yllona
Joan_W: i don't use digiatl tagging either.
2007-06-17 16833, 2007
Joan_W
there you are Brian - two of us
2007-06-17 16839, 2007
BrianFreud
I just got to the point of too much music, physically
2007-06-17 16850, 2007
yllona
i update all my ID3 (artist/album/track) by hand
2007-06-17 16803, 2007
BrianFreud
at a certain point, thousands of CDs, tapes, etc, becomes just too hard to handle - so I took it all digital
2007-06-17 16807, 2007
Joan_W
how much is too much?
2007-06-17 16816, 2007
BrianFreud
hmmm
2007-06-17 16825, 2007
yllona
puids are still very unreliable for the type of muisc i listen to.
