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      • Joan_W
        Just visited a local carpenter and am having custom made shelving for all ours.
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      • BrianFreud
        But some is just so old (when I transferred it), it's really badly tagged, and just kind of a mess
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      • Muz__
        ! Crap, reminds me
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      • yllona
        BrianFreud: i'm past that point also
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      • Muz__ was supposed to order shelving and a desk
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      • Joan_W
        oops muz!!
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      • Muz__
        It can wait, I'll just have to sit on my bed
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      • BrianFreud
        central digital storage, works for me :)
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      • Joan_W
        I like the physical presence of my music about me
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      • yllona
        Joan_W: please let me know how that custom shelving works, i'm looking at these for a temporary fix: http://www.urbanworkshop.us/furniture/pogolibrary…
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      • yllona
        i'm with joan, on the physical need. i'm the same about books also
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      • Joan_W
        Jim has designed it to fit into an alcove. We have literally measured the dimensions of a CD, tape and LP and designed the shelves with just about 1/4 inch tolerance, but they will also be double depth, i.e. will fold out.
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      • Joan_W
        You cannot mention books in our house. Husband has just made me auction off a lot on ebay and that is paying for the shelving for the CD's.
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      • yllona
        i just moved house, so i'm having to reassess my collection out of necessity
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      • Joan_W
        Did that six years ago when I remarried. That's why we have too many books and too much music, but strangely enough there were not that many duplicates and yet we both have the same taste in books and music.
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      • chillware has quit
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      • Joan_W
        it's nearly 3.00 a.m. Time I made an effort to go to bed.
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      • Joan_W
        goodnight all and thanks for the chat.
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      • Muz__
        Night Joan
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      • yllona
        g'night joan
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      • BrianFreud goes to watch a movie and forget MB for a while... CotM seems to just draw out all the (fill in blank) editors... http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7043595
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      • dseomn
        I have an /interesting/ cd :(
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      • dseomn
        disc 2 has 13 tracks, but mb, the liner notes, and the case only list the first 11
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      • dseomn
        freedb has the last 2, but that's no good
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      • dseomn
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      • dseomn
        amazon also doesn't list the other tracks
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      • dseomn
        and mb has a valid discid, so presumably there is a version floating around with only 11 tracks
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      • dseomn
        any ideas how to handle this?
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      • dseomn
        oh yeah, the discid on mb doesn't seem to have 2s gaps between tracks
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      • Jugdish
        so the final 2 tracks are "secret" tracks?
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      • dseomn
        seems like it
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      • Jugdish
        is the barcode and catalog # listed on the 11-track version identical to yours?
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      • dseomn
        the barcode is, but I don't see a catalog# on the case
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      • dseomn
        oh, found it
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      • dseomn
        it's the same
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      • Jugdish
        well if it were the case that there are 2 different versions of the album, an 11-track version and a 13-track version, they would have different barcodes. so either the barcode for this 11-track version on mb actually belongs to the 13-track version or this 11-track version doesn't exist
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      • dseomn looks through edit notes
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      • Jugdish
        the existence of a discid makes it a bit harder to believe that the 11-track version is non-existent, but it's still possible
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      • dseomn
        does itunes add a 2s gap by default?
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      • dseomn
        the release was added by an automod who's been around for a while
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      • Jugdish
        the release, but not necessarily the discid
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      • Jugdish investigates
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      • Jugdish
        incidentally, although the 2 "secret" tracks are not listed in the liner notes, do you know what songs they are?
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      • dseomn
        from freedb
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      • dseomn
        the track titles look accurate enough with the lyrics, but I don't know the artists by voice
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      • Jugdish
        what's the freedb id?
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      • dseomn
        how do I find that out?
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      • dseomn
        I'm using sound-juicer which doesn't have a button to tell me that
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      • Jugdish
        oh ok
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      • Jugdish
        there is also a freedb entry for the 11-track version: http://www.freedb.org/freedb_discid_check.php/?di…
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      • vegetables
        dseomn: what distribution? if you're on debian there is a 'cd-discid' package which is useful.
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      • dseomn
        ubuntu, I'll check
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      • dseomn
        yep, installing
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      • Jugdish
        it's looking like there may in fact be both an 11-track and 13-track version
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      • dseomn
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      • Jugdish
        i would add your 13-track version as a separate release
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      • Jugdish
        make note in the annotation that the final 2 tracks are "secret" tracks and not listed on the cover/inlay
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      • dseomn
        and just use the freedb data for them?
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      • Jugdish
        yeah
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      • dseomn
        ok, I guess it's better than nothing
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      • dseomn
        thanks for the help
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      • vegetables
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      • Jugdish
        aha!
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      • Jugdish
        that explains it
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      • dseomn
        yep, thanks
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      • dseomn
        ugh, the artist on track 13 is different on wikipedia than freedb
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      • Jugdish
        weird that the special edition would have the same barcode as the standard edition though
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      • vegetables
        i should've kept quiet ;)
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      • Jugdish
        trust wiki over freedb
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      • dseomn
        I was going to
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      • Knio1
        Knio1 is now known as Knio
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      • Knio1
        Knio1 is now known as Knio
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      • ruaok praises the gods of centripetal force
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      • warp
        hi ruaok :)
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      • ruaok
        morning.
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      • ruaok
        its hard to conceive that we were once on the same timezone.
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      • ruaok
        mere days ago.
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      • warp
        hehe
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      • ruaok
        i'll say one thing before I go to bed. Dutch people and bikes...
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      • ruaok
        I like.
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      • warp
        good :D
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      • ruaok
        good night. er good morning!
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      • warp
        that'll make you visit once in a while :)
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      • ruaok promises to do that
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      • warp
        goodnight ruaok
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      • warp gets back to .bashrc tweaking and musicbrainz related hacking.
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      • warp
        should a liveset, made available for download by the artist, usually be entered as a release or a NAT ?
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      • nightgroove
        nightgroove is now known as catgroove
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      • catgroove
        catgroove has changed the topic to: http://musicbrainz.org | Forums! http://forums.musicbrainz.org/ | New Picard rewritten with Qt http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardQt (Version: Alpha 11 ) | FreeDB app gateway active http://freedb.musicbrainz.org | NGS!?! http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=539420358…
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      • catgroove
        there
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      • catgroove
        slutt på dette tullet
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      • catgroove goes back to blackfootsue instead
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      • catgroove
        much more funn
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      • catgroove sobs soemfor cotm
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      • catgroove
        ok
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      • catgroove
        RIP
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      • catgroove
        :D
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      • catgroove ♪ Queen - March of the Black Queen (6:33) ♪
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      • catgroove
        hehe
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      • catgroove ♪ M�go de Oz - Take on Me (5:07) ♪
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      • catgroove
        hi again rondom :D
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      • HairMetalAddict sleazes to: Cathouse ~ Lesbian Night [from "In Pussy We Trust" (2004) Rated: 5 of 5 stars]
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      • catgroove
        :o
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      • catgroove
        cool?
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      • HairMetalAddict
        sleaze 4ever
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      • catgroove
        rofl
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      • catgroove
        hairmetal?
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      • HairMetalAddict
        Of the sleazy perverse nature, yes. ;-)
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      • catgroove
        :D
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      • HairMetalAddict
        Much more honest than sappy love songs
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      • HairMetalAddict continues to scare the server with loads of extremely hairy PUIDs
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      • catgroove
        lol
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      • HairMetalAddict
        huh, huh, PUIDs with pubes
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      • warp
        you're scaring not just the server.
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      • catgroove
        XD
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      • catgroove scares hmawith
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      • catgroove ♪ aoiro7 - Aoi Sportscar no Otoko (4:29) ♪
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      • catgroove
        hyper j-pop :DD muhahaha
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      • warp
        :D
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      • warp
        np: 倖田來未 - Black Cherry / 17/18. GO WAY!!
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      • catgroove
        :o