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      • yllona
        blakey's band toured 200+ days a year going back to the 1950's -- it's like boot camp for young jazz msucians

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      • drsaunde
        ahhh...the messengers...spreading the word of jazz

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      • yllona
        yep. that's the band

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      • yllona
        coltrane, hancock, freddie hubbard, the list is endless

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      • drsaunde
        did they have a high burnout rate?

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      • yllona
        heh. play hard or get cut. end of story

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      • drsaunde
        no worse than being in a band with Mark E. Smith

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      • yllona
        the other issue is that the classic blakey recordings are so heavily sampled in hip-hop

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      • yllona
        so most of the musicians that came up thru the jazz messenger ranks are determined that the credits (ergo royalties) are properly assigned

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      • BrianG
        is it me or does the bbc music page search not work?

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      • yllona
        BrianG: goes live in the morning

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      • drsaunde
        do you know if they are using all the data...or just data for bbc artists

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      • Jugdish__
        Jugdish__ is now known as Jugdish

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      • yllona
        drsaunde: here's a great site for tracking samples: http://www.the-breaks.com/index.php

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      • drsaunde
        yllona: time for your meds...you gave me that link a week or so ago :-)

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      • yllona
        drsaunde: sorry buzzkill

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      • drsaunde
        :-)

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      • yllona
        brianG: BBC link working for me at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/brainz/

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      • drsaunde
        some were good...but generally there's a lot of presumed samples which aren't really

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      • yllona
        yes, it' s a start.

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      • BrianG
        link works, but i couldn't search for artists.. i guess because it's not live.

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      • yllona
        yep

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      • drsaunde wonders if he could get the BBC to pay him to fix/enter data

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      • yllona
        drsaunde: i don't listen to much hip-hop, but i am occasionally hired to listen and identify

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      • yllona
        it's not hard to find that kind of work, tho you may need to hook-up with folk in NYC

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      • BrianG
        do you ever get so bored you just stare at your balls?

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      • warp
        yllona: wow, hired to identify samples?

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      • yllona
        yep. started for me in college

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      • warp
        nice.

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      • drsaunde
        so what is the most sampled track?

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      • drsaunde
        from your experience

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      • yllona
        warp: one of my college buddies floated his student loans to acquire rights to classic R & B recordings -- he was the only one of use to see the "rap music" was gonna be *huge*. the rest of us thought it was a "fad" -- this would be ca. 1979/80

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      • yllona
        drsaunde: that would be any number of quincy jones tunes. in fact his son QJ III, just set up a separate business for cross-licensing the Q catalog -- as if Q you needs any more exposure :)

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      • BrianG
        amen brother

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      • BrianG
        by the winstons

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      • drsaunde
        i though possibly isaac hayes

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      • yllona
        warp: by the time we were seniors in 1983 my buddy was already making $70K /year in royalties... that was a gaint sum of money in those day, and well before the hip-hop revolution

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      • drsaunde
        or mayfield

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      • yllona
        drsaunde: nope, tho superly preety much caps it as a single recording

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      • warp
        yllona: wow, nice.

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      • yllona
        *album

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      • warp wouldn't mind $70k/year ;)

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      • yllona
        drsaunde: isaac has undergone a "resurgence" but remember his classic albums from teh '70s featured more "arrangements" than compositions -- until "Shaft"

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      • yllona
        oops and that would be "Superfly" ^^ sorry

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      • yllona
        also marvin gaye's "Troubleman" note that all of these were movie soundtracks, but Quincy was writing TV/movie 15+ years before teh "blaxplotation" era

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      • yllona
        herbie hancock hasn't done too bad either

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      • dmwaters
        {global notice} Good day all, In about 15 minutes to half an hour i'm going to begin maintenence on a few servers. About 5000 total users will be affected by this and this should not take long at all. I will give any further information in wallops, /mode your_nick w if you wish to see any further info.

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      • yllona
        Quincy's first "pop" mega-hit was lesley gore's "it's my party" in 1963 (or '64)

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      • yllona
        he owns full rights on that track, just as he does for pretty much everything else he's written since the early '60s

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      • yllona
        he got burned *badly* in the mid-1950s and said "never again"

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      • yllona
        BrianG: which of the [unknown] styles should i use for unknown artist for an entire release?

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      • BrianG
        i'm pretty sure there is only one artist named [unknown]

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      • BrianG
        so, that one

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      • BrianG
        :)

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      • BrianG
        it's time for sleep now, later.

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      • yllona
        BrianG: i'm searching the wiki for [unknown] and can't tell which is correct

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      • yllona
        okay, found it -- finally

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      • MBChatLogger
        is logging

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      • kubrick.freenode.net
        Users on #musicbrainz: MBChatLogger pankkake NuclearDog ojnkpjg luks cparker srotta UserError Jugdish shawn__ rpedro_ timo- ruaok Apollozeus Germanjoud drsaunde FauxFaux_ Bartman007 Tykling tru Shrike Chise Amblin YAUB Aankhen`` BrianFreud Citizen CatCat cooperaa nightgroove yllona enjayhch Anakin Knio BrianG chillware vegetables dwg hawke Muz_ MrQwerty russ trotek FauxFaux tro dholmes Cord Clint grink joene_ juhae joshk mbrain VxJasonxV warp canidae

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      • Muz_ is moosing

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      • yllona
        'lo muz

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      • Muz_
        Hey yllona

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      • yllona
        so, you're all moved in with lozzd?

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      • Muz_
        Not quite yet

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      • Muz_
        Laurie's moving in on the weekend :)

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      • Muz_
        I'm all comfortably settled in though, marked my territory and whathaveyou

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      • yllona
        that's the ticket :)

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      • Muz_
        How's your new place treating you then?

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      • yllona
        good, mostly. the last of the electrical problems should be eliminated this week.

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      • yllona
        othr than that, it's pretty much perfect

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      • Muz_
        Ahh, every new homes seems to come with it's own problems

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      • Muz_
        I'm still without a phoneline and interweb connection, but meh, I can survive nicely

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      • Muz_
        If anything, better without them. Less stress, less late night's working, and I'm sleeping proper times :P

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      • yllona
        yes, that's good too.

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      • yllona
        speaking of which, it's time for a hot bath & then bed for me

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      • Muz_
        Mmm always fun

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      • Muz_
        Night :)

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      • yllona
        yes.

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      • yllona
        g'night

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      • warp
        ruaok: i'm clicking about a bit on the bbc website.

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      • warp
        ruaok: i think we need some way to link different editions of an album and only show one of them.

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      • warp
        ruaok: the discographies will look like a mess for them without it.

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      • warp
        ruaok: e.g.: http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artist/jrzf/

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      • drsaunde
        should we allow annotations like this: http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=33560

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      • warp
        drsaunde: no.

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      • warp
        drsaunde: that should be in a biography AR IMO

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      • drsaunde
        seems pretty obscene to me..but i don't want to just delete it

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      • warp
        drsaunde: generally it's easy to find where it is copy/pasted from with google. then remove it based on copyright violation.

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      • drsaunde
        its copy/pasted from myspace

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      • drsaunde
        that person who pasted it in is also trying to link to that myspace page with 4 different types of URL relationships

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      • warp
        you're free to clean that up IMO :)

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      • drsaunde
        i did

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      • BrianFreud
        yllona: you around?

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      • Muz_
        She left a while back

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      • BrianFreud
        drsaunde: lol, you missed that it's also in his rather long bio: http://musicbrainz.org/show/user/?userid=329368

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      • akIsa
        whats the different between MusicBrainz and cddb ?

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      • akIsa
        +e

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      • Clint
        the data and the structure

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      • BrianFreud
        freedb/cddb takes anything anyone gives them, but it has to come from a CD submission, and other than some profanity filters, the data's totally unstructured and unverified

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      • BrianFreud
        lol, just got this in an email... scary how true it is...

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      • BrianFreud
        You need only two tools in life - WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.

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      • dmwaters
        {global notice} Good day all. It appears we had a bit of routing trouble with one of our european hubs, I've rerouted around it for now, so we'll see how well it behaves.:) Thank you for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!

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      • CatCat
        BrianFreud You need only two tools in life - WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.

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      • YAUB
        CatCat: Error: You need to be a member of the quote group to use that command.

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      • CatCat
        YARG

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      • CatCat
        BrianFreud You need only two tools in life - WD-40 and Duct Tape. If it doesn't move and should, use WD-40. If it shouldn't move and does, use the duct tape.

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      • yllona
        BrianFreud: you awake?