they didn't set out to make a show and create these people as later ego's of the actual people
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catgroove
later
2007-06-02 15317, 2007
catgroove
alter not later
2007-06-02 15334, 2007
catgroove
it's no different than if i...
2007-06-02 15340, 2007
catgroove
catgroove is now known as SenRepus
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hawke_
but when they released the albums, they may have wished to be credited under their performing names
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SenRepus
whoo I'm sen!
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SenRepus
SenRepus is now known as catgroove
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catgroove
but that doesn't *ma<ke* me sen
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hawke_
It makes you "catgroove, speaking as SenRepus"
2007-06-02 15316, 2007
catgroove
EXACTLY
2007-06-02 15329, 2007
hawke_
and that's what the Performs As AR *does*
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hawke_
s/does/describes/
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hawke_
hawke_ is now known as SenRepus
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SenRepus
Now I'm hawke, performing as hawke_ performing as SenRepus
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SenRepus
SenRepus is now known as hawke_
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catgroove
and i'm saying, that it's unsufficiant because if *I* spoke and sen, and you spoke as sewn and BrianFreud sope as sen, we'd have 3 sens, in cludign the real sen!
2007-06-02 15330, 2007
hawke_
and the problem is?
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catgroove
you'd have a duplicate whopping 4! Sen Repus i n the database dohicker that was esencially the same thing !
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catgroove
an entety 'senRepus' doing whatever
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catgroove
a fictious senrepus
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catgroove
(sorry sen, for usignyou as an example here)
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hawke_
Well, SenRepus is arguably [real name] performing as SenRepus...
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catgroove
yes
2007-06-02 15304, 2007
catgroove
so when I and you and bria ndo the same
2007-06-02 15315, 2007
catgroove
whe haver a musltitude of sen's running around
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hawke_
then we're all the same fictitious person.
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catgroove
multitude
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catgroove
yes
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catgroove
but you can't have smoretan one 'performs as' on each fictious person
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catgroove
that defies all reality
2007-06-02 15311, 2007
catgroove
because the 'performs as' AR
2007-06-02 15313, 2007
hawke_
you should be able to.
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catgroove
was conseptiuslly for aliases of performing people
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catgroove
like apex twin
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catgroove
or elton john
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hawke_
uh, actors in movies or musicals are also performing people, with aliases
2007-06-02 15320, 2007
catgroove
no they're not, they're acting roles, the way people in TV shows act roles or people lin movies act roles
2007-06-02 15352, 2007
catgroove
Nichole kidman never *is* Sabine in Moulin Rouge (the movie) she just acts her
2007-06-02 15358, 2007
hawke_
that distinction is not useful. the reason for the alias existing is irrelevant.
2007-06-02 15305, 2007
catgroove
no it's not, imho
2007-06-02 15315, 2007
catgroove
its that exact distionction that matters (to me)
2007-06-02 15342, 2007
hawke_
nicole kidman did not do whatever actions in MR were done by Sabine; the fictitious character Sabine did.
2007-06-02 15344, 2007
catgroove
the reason why the muppets or the simpsons are not artists, but the gorillaz or the monkeys are
2007-06-02 15312, 2007
catgroove
hawke: you have to refine the gramamr i n that sentence as I don't understand you
2007-06-02 15321, 2007
hawke_
well, I've never seen MR -- but say in a movie, a character murders someone. That character did murder someone; the actor did not.
2007-06-02 15351, 2007
hawke_
if you wanted to really reflect reality, you'd need to have a new artist with the same name every time a band's lineup changed.
2007-06-02 15354, 2007
catgroove
yes
2007-06-02 15318, 2007
catgroove
and with the NGS we *will* be able to make a distincyion with deep purple mk 1 2 3 and so fort
2007-06-02 15324, 2007
catgroove
that's my point *g*
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catgroove
and removethe ugl that is the 2 alice coopers
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catgroove
(and probably fix this wailers mess too)
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hawke_
uh, what"
2007-06-02 15358, 2007
hawke_
?
2007-06-02 15310, 2007
hawke_
how would that remove the ugliness that is the 2 alice coopers?
2007-06-02 15329, 2007
catgroove
my point is, I don't want more mess of duplication of people that aren't even people but characters in a show and or musical
2007-06-02 15335, 2007
ruaok joined the channel
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ruaok waves from London
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hawke_
Alice cooper (person) is a member of alice cooper (band). Alice cooper (person) released foo, Alice cooper (band) released bar. that's reality
2007-06-02 15352, 2007
warp
yaaaya
2007-06-02 15357, 2007
warp
ruaok: hi :)
2007-06-02 15300, 2007
catgroove
you'd get 'alice cooper band from YYYY to YYYY alice cooper arist from YYYY to now*
2007-06-02 15302, 2007
catgroove
hi ru!
2007-06-02 15306, 2007
catgroove
zomg you're closewr now
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SerialNumber has quit
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ruaok
hi hi!
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catgroove
:D
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ruaok
just wanted to mention that I am still alive.
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catgroove ponders evily
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ruaok
London swallowed me whole.
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catgroove
:o
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catgroove
oi
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warp
nice :D
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ruaok
and its not likely going to give me up without a fight. :)
2007-06-02 15353, 2007
ruaok
hi warp!
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catgroove
o_O
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catgroove
O_o
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catgroove
O_O
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catgroove
o_o
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catgroove
._.
2007-06-02 15322, 2007
ruaok was drinking with muz and the last.fm crew on top of the last.fm offices last night
2007-06-02 15330, 2007
catgroove
"on top of" ?
2007-06-02 15335, 2007
ruaok
yep.
2007-06-02 15340, 2007
ruaok
they threw a BBQ.
2007-06-02 15343, 2007
catgroove
oh yea, they have flat roofs there
2007-06-02 15344, 2007
ruaok
twas fun.
2007-06-02 15350, 2007
catgroove
lol @ flat roofs
2007-06-02 15355, 2007
ruaok
but I am knackered and tomorrow is the house concert.
2007-06-02 15359, 2007
catgroove
eep
2007-06-02 15302, 2007
catgroove
dakar ru
2007-06-02 15321, 2007
catgroove
well unless the weekend give more crap rain, it should be nice and hot for you here
2007-06-02 15341, 2007
catgroove
but really, as my mother said, you aughta come here much later in june, toget the 'norwegian summer'
2007-06-02 15311, 2007
ruaok
hot?
2007-06-02 15314, 2007
ruaok
crap.
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ruaok wants cool weather.
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muz
Hehehe
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catgroove
lol, not like what you're used to, I's susspect
2007-06-02 15329, 2007
ruaok
the weather in london is turning as we speak, right muz?
2007-06-02 15335, 2007
catgroove
'hot' here is 20 C°
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warp
it's nice here now, not TOO hot, no rain.
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muz
It's quite nice, and hot
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muz
Too hot even
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ruaok
and humid.
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muz
Mmm
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catgroove
ew rain
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catgroove
had rain all of may
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ruaok
muz: nice party. thanks for having me.
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catgroove
muzmuz
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ruaok
my friends dug it.
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muz
You're welcome :)
2007-06-02 15304, 2007
ruaok
:-)
2007-06-02 15306, 2007
muz
Twas great seeing you again
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muz
momo
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catgroove
:D
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muz
Me, russ and jonty stayed up to watch the sun rise too, whilst drinking wine until about 6ish
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Citizen has quit
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catgroove
o_O
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muz
Think I'm gonna have to take it easy tomorrow night :P
2007-06-02 15359, 2007
ruaok
nice.
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Cit-busy
Cit-busy is now known as Citizen
2007-06-02 15317, 2007
ruaok
Mirko and I sat at the window in covent garden until 3am watchin drunk girls in heels fall over and varf.
2007-06-02 15319, 2007
ruaok
barf
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catgroove
D:
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catgroove
;_;
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ruaok
muz: looking forward to tomorrow too.
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ruaok
awesome band.
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catgroove
;_;
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catgroove
T_T
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muz
Mmm, just need to take it easy on the drinks, but yeah, quite interested in this Solace band :)
2007-06-02 15340, 2007
ruaok
we've been shopping in camden town all day.
2007-06-02 15349, 2007
ruaok
I got the makings of a nice outfit for Burning Man.
2007-06-02 15356, 2007
ruaok
and lots of presents for friends.
2007-06-02 15304, 2007
muz
Only in Camden would you find those sort of things :P
2007-06-02 15314, 2007
ruaok
heaven for burners.
2007-06-02 15333, 2007
ruaok
I'm going to dress up as my goth roommate's big ficticious sister. :)