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      • warp
        brianfreud: which i guess will hov to do for now, link them up in the annotations ;)
      • 2007-10-28 30123, 2007

      • warp goes afk again trying to install leopard.
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      • Jooon
        hmmm. how do I compile picard 0.9.0beta1 with ofa and ffmpeg?
      • 2007-10-28 30103, 2007

      • Jooon
        python setup.py config sets with-libofa and with-avcodec to True
      • 2007-10-28 30125, 2007

      • Jooon
        it also sets libs to ofa.lib and avcodec.lib avformat.lib for ofa and avcodec
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      • Jooon
        but when building with python setup.py build_ext -i it says:
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      • Jooon
        gcc -pthread -shared build/temp.linux-i686-2.4/picard/musicdns/ofa.o -o build/lib.linux-i686-2.4/picard/musicdns/ofa.so ofa.lib
      • 2007-10-28 30157, 2007

      • Jooon
        gcc: ofa.lib: No such file or directory
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      • Jooon
        have never fiddled with libraries like this. what is missing and why and how do I fix? :)
      • 2007-10-28 30152, 2007

      • Jooon
        ok. it works if I just enter the correct flags manually... why did python setup.py config those ofa.lib avcodec.lib there?
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      • FauxFaux
        CatCat? Over 88 what?
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      • Jooon
        yay me!
      • 2007-10-28 30109, 2007

      • Jooon
        jag gick på fel tåg
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      • tru
        stackars
      • 2007-10-28 30117, 2007

      • HairMetalAddict
        En gång gick jag på fel... um... webbsidan.
      • 2007-10-28 30129, 2007

      • Jooon
        and I wrote this in the wrong channel :)
      • 2007-10-28 30158, 2007

      • Jooon
        can't do anything right today
      • 2007-10-28 30111, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        CatCat!
      • 2007-10-28 30114, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        CatCatCat!
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      • HairMetalAddict
        Dog!
      • 2007-10-28 30116, 2007

      • Muz_
        Moose!
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      • catgroove has quit
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      • CatCat
        year
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      • CatCat
        before 1988
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      • CatCat
        or when it was that cd started being common
      • 2007-10-28 30152, 2007

      • CatCat
        would it be bork to tag valid cd's made before 1988 with "early cd"?
      • 2007-10-28 30145, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        Mm, I'm not sure of the history. I'll look at the approximate numbers in a minute, got something to do first.
      • 2007-10-28 30144, 2007

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      • brianfreud
        CatCat - redbook std came out in June 1980, so that'd be your "earliest possible date" for a CD
      • 2007-10-28 30133, 2007

      • Muz_
        I hear they can clear that up with a round of anti biotics
      • 2007-10-28 30119, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        Unlike AIDS.
      • 2007-10-28 30129, 2007

      • FauxFaux
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      • FauxFaux
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      • CatCat
        takker
      • 2007-10-28 30122, 2007

      • CatCat
        so everythin prior to 1980 is a definitive bogus?
      • 2007-10-28 30124, 2007

      • CatCat
        cool
      • 2007-10-28 30128, 2007

      • CatCat
        wtf 15 century
      • 2007-10-28 30100, 2007

      • CatCat
        eeh anyone speak hebrew anyone? http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7707823
      • 2007-10-28 30131, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        No, nobody speaks hebrew.
      • 2007-10-28 30147, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        Edit note in hebrew, no less.
      • 2007-10-28 30114, 2007

      • CatCat
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      • FauxFaux
        The internet apperas to translate that edit note as "24 Pretty songs in the team
      • 2007-10-28 30152, 2007

      • CatCat
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      • CatCat
        he released it before even being born!
      • 2007-10-28 30110, 2007

      • CatCat
        :o
      • 2007-10-28 30129, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        CatCat: That 1706 one, it's more likely that the date is wrong, no?
      • 2007-10-28 30143, 2007

      • CatCat
        yeaq
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      • FauxFaux
        Time machine!
      • 2007-10-28 30148, 2007

      • CatCat
        *yea :)
      • 2007-10-28 30106, 2007

      • FauxFaux wonders how slow checking that will be.
      • 2007-10-28 30158, 2007

      • jgarra
        does anyone use the freedb musicbrainz gateway much?
      • 2007-10-28 30131, 2007

      • CatCat
        grrr i hate it when peopel do stupid liek this http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6745327
      • 2007-10-28 30106, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        Heh.
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      • CatCat
        brianfreud: when where the first regualr phonetic records released?
      • 2007-10-28 30109, 2007

      • CatCat
        FauxFaux: we sould make a report fo stupid dates as well
      • 2007-10-28 30117, 2007

      • brianfreud
        mo:
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      • CatCat
        things put inas 1900 or 1200 etc
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      • brianfreud
        first wax cylinders between 1888 and 1890, first flat wax records around 1904 (but mass production around 1912)
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      • brianfreud
        Victrola around 1919
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      • CatCat
        FauxFaux: there yo uhave your numbers
      • 2007-10-28 30135, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        Anything before 1900 is probably bogus, tbh. :p
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      • brianfreud
        lol
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      • CatCat
        anything not labeled as "wax cylinders" before 1900 definitly
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      • brianfreud
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      • CatCat
        and maybe brain will catch some that someone else added before we could have types
      • 2007-10-28 30132, 2007

      • CatCat
        *formats
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      • CatCat
        eh medias
      • 2007-10-28 30140, 2007

      • FauxFaux
        brianfreud: Oh dear. :(
      • 2007-10-28 30147, 2007

      • CatCat
        luks! i cannot delete the date and country from http://musicbrainz.org/edit/albumreleases/editrel…
      • 2007-10-28 30105, 2007

      • CatCat
        afaik the label and format doesnt need date/country
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      • brianfreud
        it does
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      • luks
        date/country are required info
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      • brianfreud
        no year, the rest all goes byebye
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      • brianfreud
        which I still think ought not to be...
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      • FauxFaux
        You could increase the ammount of [unknown], that'd be fun.
      • 2007-10-28 30100, 2007

      • CatCat
        well luks, here you see the reaon why date/country required is a bad idea
      • 2007-10-28 30113, 2007

      • luks
        brianfreud, you know, patches are welcome :)
      • 2007-10-28 30117, 2007

      • brianfreud
        lol
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      • CatCat
        brianfreud: fix it!
      • 2007-10-28 30133, 2007

      • brianfreud
        Why is year so important to the data structure luks?
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      • luks
        because it was the *only* info for years
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      • CatCat
        now it isnt
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      • Rondom has quit
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      • CatCat
        lol
      • 2007-10-28 30125, 2007

      • luks
        we had only date and country. what's the point of a release event if you don't fill it
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      • CatCat remembers when adding a date was a seperate mod altogether
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      • CatCat
        now it is differnt
      • 2007-10-28 30143, 2007

      • brianfreud
        so (event info) --> year --> release, not (event info) --> release ?
      • 2007-10-28 30154, 2007

      • CatCat
        yo uhave label info, release type infor and country infro, but not year
      • 2007-10-28 30119, 2007

      • luks
        as I said, many things are not optimal, but that doesn't mean it's intentional
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      • CatCat nods
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      • luks
        so if somebody has time to fix this, plase do
      • 2007-10-28 30138, 2007

      • CatCat
        luks: does this have a bugtikkit?
      • 2007-10-28 30139, 2007

      • brianfreud
        now that would be a great fix for the next 2007 release date :)
      • 2007-10-28 30147, 2007

      • brianfreud
        pretty sure it does mo
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      • CatCat
        brianfreud: get on it!
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      • brianfreud
        lol
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      • brianfreud
        I wouldn't have a clue
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      • CatCat
        im serious
      • 2007-10-28 30158, 2007

      • CatCat
        yarr
      • 2007-10-28 30104, 2007

      • CatCat
        who wants choco?
      • 2007-10-28 30107, 2007

      • brianfreud
        I'm messing with the html and css, not the php/perl/database structure
      • 2007-10-28 30140, 2007

      • brianfreud
        btw, speaking of messing with the database, I tossed another 5 or so instruments on your list mo
      • 2007-10-28 30147, 2007

      • CatCat
        oh
      • 2007-10-28 30152, 2007

      • CatCat
        i was to look at that wasnt i
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      • CatCat
        now is a good time
      • 2007-10-28 30100, 2007

      • CatCat
        let me dig up that link
      • 2007-10-28 30104, 2007

      • brianfreud
        lol, yeah, there's 20 or so waiting
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      • CatCat
        well STUFF happened zomg
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      • brianfreud
        I know :)
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      • brianfreud
        but if you're bored... :D
      • 2007-10-28 30141, 2007

      • CatCat
        btw there is a thing on bugs.mb for instrument changes spesifically
      • 2007-10-28 30157, 2007

      • CatCat
        i asked you before to remind me
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      • CatCat
        :P
      • 2007-10-28 30116, 2007

      • brianfreud
        luks, perhaps a dumb solution, but to change it and not require restructuring the event part of the database,
      • 2007-10-28 30156, 2007

      • Rondom wants choco
      • 2007-10-28 30102, 2007

      • brianfreud
        what if blank year was set to, say, year "1" when entering if field is blank, and if year = 1, only blank is shown or fed via xml?
      • 2007-10-28 30124, 2007

      • brianfreud
        too hacky?
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      • luks
        yes, too hacky
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      • FauxFaux
        Or just allow 0000 for the year, like 1337-00-00 means ? in the date/month?
      • 2007-10-28 30143, 2007

      • luks
        why a hack if the real solution is "almost" the same?
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      • CatCat
        Rondom: fix the year being obligatory when entering release events!
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      • brianfreud
        I got the sense there was data structure that would need revamping to actually get rid of the required year
      • 2007-10-28 30121, 2007

      • brianfreud
        0000 or 1 wouldn't need restructuring...
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      • luks
        just change from NOT NULL to NULL
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      • luks
        web service is more problematic though
      • 2007-10-28 30140, 2007

      • Rondom isn't that experienced in perl and the mb-codebase
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      • luks
        I'm not sure if the RDF one needs a date
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      • brianfreud
        if DATE = Null, RDF_year = 0000 ?
      • 2007-10-28 30138, 2007

      • luks
        that could work, I guess
      • 2007-10-28 30102, 2007

      • brianfreud
        avoids breaking anything anyone else might have which assumes a date will be given
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      • luks
        the xml one should be flexible enough, so if some app depends on a date, it's their problem
      • 2007-10-28 30116, 2007

      • brianfreud
        true, though the idea of what could go wrong on the client end if it assumes numeric and receives NULL, not something I enjoy imagining :P
      • 2007-10-28 30134, 2007

      • brianfreud
        Magic8ball: Should we do away with required dates?
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      • brianfreud kicks the Magic8ball
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      • FauxFaux
        28/18:21:49 <BadgerBOT> My reply is no.
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      • CatCat
        it needs only 8ball