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      • ruaok snickers at http://youtube.com/watch?v=l3KIxzCqYqM
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      • BrianFreud
        LOL
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      • BrianFreud
        your office? :P
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      • ruaok
        my office is small enough that only a couch, some servers, my computer and I fit in it.
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      • BrianFreud
        take out the servers and you'd have mine :P
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      • BrianFreud
        servers behaving itself atm guys :)
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      • Muz
        Hahahah
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      • Muz
        That youtube clip ftw
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      • drsaunde
        Raptors Win! Raptors Win!
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      • BrianFreud
        damn, the site is SCREAMING!
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      • BrianFreud
        Is there an equivalent for [traditional] that covers Xmas traditional songs?
      • 2007-04-25 11502, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        ah, found it :)
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      • Jugdish
        what is it?
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      • BrianFreud
        closest I can find is under SP artist [spiritual] : http://musicbrainz.org/track/d1c993b4-bd1e-4cc1-b…
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      • BrianFreud
        seems as good a target as any, since the artist atribution on the track is [traditional], rather than any one artist
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      • Shepard`
        Shepard` is now known as Shepard
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      • BrianFreud
        Jugdish: only thing that would seem to make it possibly a better target would be a generic release as well as the generic artists
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      • BrianFreud
        argh, server slowing way down again
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      • nofeardjb
        How do i clear out Picard's database? It crashed badly and won't get Cd info from the online databases anymore
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      • BrianFreud
        how do you mean "clear out"
      • 2007-04-25 11521, 2007

      • BrianFreud
        it goes to empty when you exit the prog
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      • nofeardjb
        when i load it up, there are five entries under "albums" that say "[loading album information]" but nothing happens.. and when i add more music, they never get info from the internet
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      • BrianFreud
        the server's been having trouble lately, it's nothing on your end
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      • nofeardjb
        hmm
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      • BrianFreud
        ruoak's been trying to fix it for 2 weeks or so now
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      • nofeardjb
        /sigh i thought it was me
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      • BrianFreud
        unfortunately, no
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      • BrianFreud
        though, one thing you might want to do
      • 2007-04-25 11513, 2007

      • nofeardjb
        yes?
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      • BrianFreud
        you using windows?
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      • nofeardjb
        no
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      • nofeardjb
        linux ubuntu
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      • BrianFreud
        ok, I don't know where picard stores it under linux,
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      • nofeardjb
        hehe
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      • nofeardjb
        what were you going to suggest anyway? just curious
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      • BrianFreud
        but esp when picardqt's having issues contacting the server, the log file get filled to hell
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      • BrianFreud
        mine have been eating up 40-50 mb a day
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      • nofeardjb
        i'll check it out
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      • BrianFreud
        it's worth finding them and deleting them
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      • BrianFreud
        the other thing you might try
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      • BrianFreud
        is to go into your options in QT,
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      • BrianFreud
        and set the server (if you're just trying to do lookups) to www.uk.musicbrainz.org
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      • BrianFreud
        that server works, but doesn't allow edits
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      • nofeardjb
        ok i'll check that out as well
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      • BrianFreud
        :)
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      • nofeardjb
        you've been very helpful! ;-)
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      • BrianFreud
        no prob
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      • Jugdish
        anybody here use foobar2000?
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      • BrianFreud
        nope
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      • BrianFreud
        winamp all the way :)
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      • Jugdish
        heh
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      • nofeardjb
        amarok is nice in linux
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      • BrianFreud
        lol, never get me off winamp... been using it since alpha1 :P
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      • BrianFreud
        back when it was either use your computer, or play music, but not both :P
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      • BrianFreud
        anyone remember ampmp3?
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      • nofeardjb
        hey brain
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      • nofeardjb
        picard finally started working again ;-)
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      • Jugdish
        brain?
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      • BrianFreud
        :)
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      • BrianFreud
        lol, I get that typo all the time, used to it
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      • Jugdish
        :P
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      • BrianFreud
        used to play an online game called pyroto... got that typo so often I ended up changing my nice to Brain Food
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      • BrianFreud
        */nick
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      • BrianFreud
        Anyone here an expert on entering Musicals into MB?
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      • ajh
        there's no reason at all to have unsorted files in a dir structure is there? all in one would just load faster anyway right?
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      • ajh
        other than name conflicts I suppose.
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      • BrianFreud
        I use TheGodfather to take advantage of what tags do exist, so I can try to ID them later
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      • BrianFreud
        easier than all in one dir
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      • ajh
        Yeah, I'm thinking about those left-over once I've already identified most of them.
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      • BrianFreud
        that's the ones I mean
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      • ajh
        wish changing configs was easier...
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      • BrianFreud
        I have around 10k of them
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      • ajh
        heh, 99% of mine are off original discs.
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      • BrianFreud
        but the more I can take advantage of what I *do* know about them, the easier they are to add in to the db and manually get tagged
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      • ajh
        yeah, but I mostly want to be able to easily remove dupes etc.
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      • ajh
        which this doesn't really facilitate
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      • BrianFreud
        see, I find it does, for the ID'd ones - load all into QT, save elsewhere, delete what remains, move em all back
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      • ajh
        Well that's what I'm doing, but not all the 'what remains' is junk.
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      • ajh
        I'm moving all complete albums into their own tree.
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      • BrianFreud
        oh, sorry, I left out a step
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      • BrianFreud
        ID all I can into one dir,
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      • BrianFreud
        then re-run all those to a different dir,
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      • BrianFreud
        delete the interim dir
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      • ajh
        Well, yeah that's the plan... just lots of config changing :)
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      • BrianFreud
        and manually add/ID the leftovers in the original dir
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      • BrianFreud
        yup
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      • BrianFreud
        lol
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      • ajh
        that's why we need persistent target directory trees on the album side. :)
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      • BrianFreud
        why?
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      • BrianFreud
        well, I guess in other OSes it'd help, but in windows, I just drag from the explorer side
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      • ajh
        Then you could setup different 'libraries' on the right, and setup different naming structures etc for them.
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      • BrianFreud
        I'm glad there isn't a persistant tree, it'd just get in my way
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      • ajh
        that and the not having to reload all the time.
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      • ajh
        well, you have the big ones collapseable.
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      • BrianFreud wouldn't want Picard to load all 100k tracks in RAM each and every time
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      • ajh
        Still wish I could generate a list of which discs to re-rip
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      • ajh
        somehow so many i know I have complete discs of have tracks missing.
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      • BrianFreud
        the way I do it, after I run that entire earlier process,
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      • BrianFreud
        I then hand select each which is 17/17 complete, and save them elsewhere
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      • BrianFreud
        anything left, I know is missing a track somewhere
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      • BrianFreud
        long and annoying process, but worthwhile in the long run
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      • ajh
        yeah, that's what i'm doing but I'm saying that the UI needs to do better... it's the 21st century, norton commander is 20 years old now, time for looking at the semantic web. )
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      • BrianFreud
        well, just keep in mind, right now luks' still working on stability and other issues
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      • BrianFreud
        the QT ui is a MASSIVE improvement over the prior UI
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      • ajh
        Yes, it's more a different way of viewing data, and I wouldn't place the whole task like this on one person anyway.
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      • BrianFreud
        lol, welcome to MB :P
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      • BrianFreud
        if you know how to program, I'm sure he'd appreciate your contribution :)
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      • BrianFreud
        wish I could - my programming's only good enough to be able to figure out what is causing bugs, rather than just reporting em
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      • ajh
        Yeah, you really don't want me writing code, lousy with syntax... fine with design and debugging/troubleshooting though :)
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      • ajh
        You'd be amazed at how many things I pestered into gnome :)
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      • ajh
        the more I think about it though the more exporting a list of incomplete rips would help me, I could probably re-rip with less hassle than doing all this.
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      • ajh
        but like the operation I'm doing now, with the current UI I estimate 6-7 hours to finish, if it sorted based on completeness, 2 minutes and an hour of waiting.
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      • ajh
        and considering the current demands on my time, it's a fairly critical thing.
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      • BrianFreud
        well, do you know python?
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      • BrianFreud
        what you could do is write a python plugin to export data as you go, then give you a report
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      • BrianFreud
        aCiD2 is planning to write a util to plug into to QT to do that and a whole lot more
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      • ajh
        not well enough to do that... I mostly look for where the crash is happening with things :)
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      • ajh
        but the more work I put into this, the more I think I just want to go buy a nice quad-G5 and re-rip everything to FLAC.
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      • BrianFreud
        exactly the same as me - I can say WHY it happens... I just can't fix it
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      • BrianFreud
        lol
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      • BrianFreud
        this way's cheaper :P
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      • ajh
        For you perhaps.
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      • ajh
        It's taken almost a week of time so far, that could have paid for a G5.
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      • ajh
        but then, I'm doing it to learn where things sit with taggers etc anyway.