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      • Muz
        cd /where/you/downloaded/the/files
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      • jacknetgb
        right
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      • Muz
        ls *.tar.bz2 -lsa
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      • nikki
        jacknetgb: I just made a symlink from where it expects the data to be to another drive... has been working fine for ages so far :P
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      • jacknetgb
        thats what the guys on postgresql told me to do also
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      • Muz
        Err, -lsha even for readable file sizes
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      • Muz
        Third column is file size, if they're not the same I'd suspect you didn't download the entire file heh
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      • nikki
        if they are the same, do you have enough space in your /tmp directory to extract the files?
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      • jacknetgb
        they seem to be around the same sizes e.g. mbdump is 473M and it says 483749 KB on the ftp
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      • jacknetgb
        does that seem fine?
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      • Muz
        Yeah, what about what nikki suggested?
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      • jacknetgb
        ive got 1.5g free in my on my / drive
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      • Muz
        Nowhere near enough
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      • jacknetgb
        i shall go up it
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      • Muz
        About 15GB should do
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      • Muz
        Hmm
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      • jacknetgb
        just for the /tmp folder that database is on the other drive now?
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      • Muz
        Oh, just for /tmp about 10GB free I imagine
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      • Muz
        Given that it's 7GB when imported or so
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      • nikki
        you can change the location of the temporary folder it uses
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      • jacknetgb
        its alright now ive upped the drive size
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      • Muz
        Is this a VM or something?
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      • jacknetgb
        yeh
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      • jacknetgb
        i need another computer to run mb on really
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      • Muz
        Depends what you're going to do with your install, if it isn't going to be public facing or under heavy useI wouldn't worry too much
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      • jacknetgb
        hmm vm isnt picking up the change in drive size
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      • Muz
        Use the --tmp-dir=/alternate/place/to/unpack/tars option then
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      • CatCat
        according to http://www.discogs.com/release/1146793 it seems ther are two different *versions* of that release, if even the music is different, there should be different releases addet to mb
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      • CatCat
        eg. the regular release and the "commercial version"
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      • Muz
        Er, wtf?
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      • CatCat
        uh yes?
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      • Muz
        Bit random of you to bring it up :P
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      • CatCat
        i just came home now, so soue me :p
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      • CatCat
        sue*
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      • brianfreud
        Hi mo! :)
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      • CatCat
        hello
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      • FauxFaux
        Hi brianfreud!
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      • Muz
        Hi FauxFaux!
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      • FauxFaux
        Hi ruaok!
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      • CatCat
        hi FauxFaux
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      • brianfreud
        Hi FauxFaux!
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      • CatCat
        hi brianfreud
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      • brianfreud
        lol, hei mo
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      • drsaunde
        time for some french vanilla kahlua
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      • jacknetgb_
        jacknetgb_ is now known as jacknetgb
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      • jacknetgb
        What would you guys say the best free IRC client for windows is?
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      • drsaunde Jurrasic 5 - What's Golden (Power in Numbers 2002)
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      • jacknetgb
        ?
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      • juhae
        irssi
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      • jacknetgb
        thanks ill take a lool
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      • jacknetgb
        look*
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      • juhae
        whoever he was.
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      • axu
        hello
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      • axu
        i am asking mysqlf how to calculate the size of an id3v2 tag. i read the http://www.id3.org/id3v2.3.0#head-697d09c50ed7fa9… ... but dont get the calculation: The ID3v2 tag size is encoded with four bytes where the most significant bit (bit 7) is set to zero in every byte, making a total of 28 bits. The zeroed bits are ignored, so a 257 bytes long tag is represented as $00 00 02 01. ...... in my calculations: hex 201 = dec 513
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      • Clint
        axu: try hex 102
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      • axu
        clint: 258
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      • Clint
        axu: which is 1 off from your 257
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      • axu
        clint: yes, but one of meas i would cut a chunk of the first mp3frame if id remove the id3v2 tag accoring to my miscalculation
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      • axu
        mhm, some garbage above, but it should make some sense anyhow ;9
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      • axu
        i intend to create checksums of mp3frames only. so the checksum doesnt change if the id3v2 tag changes.
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      • srotta
        Well, they are seven bit numbers.
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      • axu
        srotta: yes, 4x7
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      • axu
        srotta: got a clou how to get 257dec out of 00 00 02 01
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      • axu
        hex
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      • srotta
        Yeah. 2^8 + 1
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      • srotta
        "Hex" is also a representation of the bytes used to encode the length.
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      • axu
        srotta: ok, theres 257 :) but i still dont get it :( where could i get further information on this. or. whats the searchphrae?
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      • srotta
        "also", I meant only.
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      • srotta
        Since the most significant bit is always zero, in this case there's nine significant bits, so 201 => 100000001 in binary.
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      • axu
        srotta: sorry, but this doenst make sense to me :(
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      • axu
        100000001 = 0101 hex
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      • srotta
        Forget about the hex.
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      • axu
        ok
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      • axu
        ill try
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      • srotta
        You can't use straight conversion since we're talking about seven bit numbers.
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      • srotta
        Let's do it the other way round, maybe that helps.
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      • srotta
        8)
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      • srotta
        So, 257 = 100000001
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      • axu
        :)
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      • srotta
        No divide that into seven bit groups => 10 0000001
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      • srotta
        Add the most significant bit and padding => 00000010 00000001
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      • srotta
        Turn that into hex => 02 01
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      • axu
        srotta: mhm, ok, i think things are clearing up a bit.
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      • srotta
        So there's the "extra zero bit" which isn't part of the actual number.
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      • axu
        srotta: so for reverse calculation i convert 0201 to bin, then cut after the 7th bit and add the right 7 bits to the 2^8 calculation ?
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      • axu
        aeh
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      • axu
        no
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      • brianfreud
        Muzzz, btw, your ASIN tool at http://muz.goatse.co.uk/musicbrainz/asinsearch.php is erroring, says it doesn't have your AWS key
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      • axu
        i ment. right7bits^8+ leftsevenbits
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      • axu
        no, the otherway around :)
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      • axu
        is any of you using alternative tags? for i find id3v2 to be a real mess in means of parsing..n stuff
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      • axu
        i personally dont need metainformation, pictures, or other files embedded in this max256mb big gtag
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      • navap
        I've heard good things about APE
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      • axu
        navap: ive seen it but, not in the wild also i didnt take a closer look at it. ill google.
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      • axu
        they should have made id3v1 tags 256bytes big and i would be happy :(
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      • navap
        The Hydrogenaudio wiki has some info on it if I remember correctly
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      • axu
        navap: thanks, nixe comparison between apev2 and id3v2
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      • navap
        Your welcome :)
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      • Yllona
        good afternoon brainzers
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      • navap
        Hello
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      • testing132
        good morning imo
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      • testing132
        so what if its after noon!
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      • testing132
        sigh
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      • SenRepus
        :p
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      • Wizzcat
        sweet jesus.. the forecast for tomorrow morning is -17c
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      • Wizzcat
        remind me not to go outside
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      • axu
        ok, thanks folks, have a nice day
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      • srotta
        Wizzcat: Where?
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      • sonium
        are there any more reliable track descritions like that on amazon?
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      • sonium
        I just gut the madagascar 2 soundtrack that is not in the mbdb and amazon doesn't seem very reliable at this release?
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      • sonium
        !
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      • Wizzcat
        srotta: Trondheim, Norway
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      • Wizzcat
        sonium: google the barcode and find out? :)
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      • srotta
        Wizzcat: Damn.
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      • srotta
        It's close to zero here :|
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      • sonium
        already found some more reliable source
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      • Wizzcat
        I quite like the cold really, as long as it's not too windy
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      • srotta
        So do I.
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      • srotta
        And anyway, it's easier to deal with cold than it is with heat.
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      • Milosz
        yeah up until something like -20C