mudcrow, entere a bug and assign it to me. I'll bug mip about it.
2008-04-15 10649, 2008
mudcrow
ok
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adhawkins
Anyone know much about the client library? I'm finding that after several requests I start getting a 503 error, which it never seems to recover from
2008-04-15 10641, 2008
BrianFreud
you requesting too quickly?
2008-04-15 10655, 2008
adhawkins
Quite possibly, is there some sort of rate limiting going on?
2008-04-15 10606, 2008
FauxFaux
1/s is enforced, yes.
2008-04-15 10607, 2008
BrianFreud
max 1 req/sec
2008-04-15 10611, 2008
adhawkins
Aha.
2008-04-15 10623, 2008
adhawkins
And once the rate limit kicks in, is there anything I can do to 'reset' it?
2008-04-15 10629, 2008
BrianFreud
stop?
2008-04-15 10632, 2008
adhawkins
:)
2008-04-15 10656, 2008
FauxFaux
It's a standard perl module (iirc), I'm betting it's reset after n minutes.
2008-04-15 10607, 2008
adhawkins
Basically what I'm doing is going through all my albums regularly, downloading tags for them and comparing them with tags in my files
2008-04-15 10611, 2008
BrianFreud
unless you eventually perma-ban yourself
2008-04-15 10624, 2008
ruaok
FauxFaux: no, its piece of custom work by out wizard behind the scenes.
2008-04-15 10629, 2008
adhawkins
So I need to make sure I only make a request every couple of seconds?
2008-04-15 10636, 2008
BrianFreud
just 1/sec
2008-04-15 10643, 2008
FauxFaux
Heh, ruaok, I'd only seen the public interface, cool. :)
2008-04-15 10644, 2008
ruaok
adhawkins: are you scanning for updates against the DB?
2008-04-15 10659, 2008
adhawkins
Not sure what you mean ruaok?
2008-04-15 10617, 2008
adhawkins
I'm using MusicBrainz::Query to return releases for a disc ID
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
FauxFaux
adhawkins: I was thinking of offering a way (via. my server) to grab all the data for a submitted list of album mbids, probably in a simpler format than the xml the webservice dumps, thoughts?
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
ruaok
periodically check to see if metadata has been updated?
2008-04-15 10619, 2008
BrianFreud
"going through all my albums regularly, downloading tags for them and comparing them with tags in my files" sounds like it, yes ru
2008-04-15 10641, 2008
ruaok
BrianFreud: just checking. :)
2008-04-15 10642, 2008
adhawkins
ruaok, yes, that's exactly what I'm doing
2008-04-15 10647, 2008
ruaok
adhawkins: ok, please stop.
2008-04-15 10652, 2008
adhawkins
Oh :(
2008-04-15 10602, 2008
ruaok
a scan like that will likely give you less than 5% hits.
2008-04-15 10608, 2008
ruaok
and just put dumbass loads on our server.
2008-04-15 10622, 2008
ruaok
please download and host the data yourself if you'd like to do that.
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
adhawkins
Ok. How much data are we talking?
2008-04-15 10639, 2008
warp
FauxFaux: i'd be interested in any kind of feed of updates to my collection of musicbrainz release ids
2008-04-15 10646, 2008
ruaok
on disk 3-4gb
2008-04-15 10601, 2008
adhawkins
Right, what's the database format? Postgres? Mysql?
2008-04-15 10610, 2008
FauxFaux
It can be coerced into postgres format.
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
adhawkins
I want MySQL ideally :)
2008-04-15 10629, 2008
FauxFaux
The replication needs perl+postgres+lunix stuff, which is almost certainly pain to change. :)
2008-04-15 10643, 2008
BrianFreud
and MySQL will run screaming from the db size
2008-04-15 10653, 2008
ruaok should add mysql has one of the bot hot buttons.
2008-04-15 10658, 2008
adhawkins
Would downloading the whole 3-4 Gig of data really be less load than making a request for each album?
2008-04-15 10602, 2008
ruaok
BrianFreud: naw, its not that bad.
2008-04-15 10617, 2008
ruaok
adhawkins: yes. we don't pay for that bandwidth or the hosting :-)
2008-04-15 10624, 2008
adhawkins
Ok.
2008-04-15 10627, 2008
FauxFaux
warp: Mmm, yeah. I have a local db and I haven't managed anything clever yet. Best is probably submitting a releaseid/hash of what you think is the data, or something like that?
2008-04-15 10631, 2008
ruaok
and its only 700 MB compressed.
2008-04-15 10637, 2008
BrianFreud
I'
2008-04-15 10650, 2008
BrianFreud
I'd guess, too, it's more the server load than the bandwidth that's problematic?
2008-04-15 10652, 2008
FauxFaux
Of course, it breaks horribly if you lack the complete metadata set (ie. you have a track missing from an album).
2008-04-15 10607, 2008
ruaok
BrianFreud: yes.
2008-04-15 10616, 2008
adhawkins
ruaok, is there any better way to do what I want to do?
2008-04-15 10618, 2008
ruaok
we're good within our bandwidth allottment right now.
2008-04-15 10625, 2008
ruaok
not right now.
2008-04-15 10629, 2008
adhawkins
I want to periodically make sure all the tags in my music is up to date.
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
ruaok
we're hoping to get RSS feeds for each artist before too long.
2008-04-15 10646, 2008
ruaok
and then tools can scan RSS feeds for changes.
2008-04-15 10648, 2008
FauxFaux
Actually, I'm not sure I want to know how out of date my collection is, or I'd go implement it right now. :p
2008-04-15 10655, 2008
ruaok
and only request the releases that have changed.
2008-04-15 10656, 2008
warp
FauxFaux: i really have no idea, i don't currently have a tool to automate tagging. i have half a tool which -- when it doesn't throw python exceptions -- renames my files based on data from the webservice looked up with the mbid from the tags.
2008-04-15 10607, 2008
FauxFaux
Python, eew. :)
2008-04-15 10615, 2008
warp
ruaok: yay!
2008-04-15 10622, 2008
Kerensky97
nikki: do you know any other minidiscs which are 8?
2008-04-15 10625, 2008
adhawkins
Just FYI, the tool I'm using is flactag, something I knocked up mself.
2008-04-15 10627, 2008
FauxFaux thinks.
2008-04-15 10628, 2008
Kerensky97
Which digit?
2008-04-15 10621, 2008
adhawkins
Is it an option to run a local server and for me to query that rather than the 'master'?
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
BrianFreud
Kerensky97: 2nd to last
2008-04-15 10609, 2008
ruaok
adhawkins: that's what we're saying.
2008-04-15 10617, 2008
ruaok
but, run postgres.
2008-04-15 10634, 2008
ruaok
be a grown up and use a grown up database!
2008-04-15 10634, 2008
adhawkins
So how easy is it to set up a local server and have it mirror data from the master?
2008-04-15 10648, 2008
ruaok
without the WS, its postgres, 4 perl modules.
2008-04-15 10651, 2008
Kerensky97
nope, third to last. 49424631000827
2008-04-15 10604, 2008
ruaok
with the WS its apache1 + mod_perl and a boat load of perl modules.
2008-04-15 10607, 2008
warp
what's this about numbers and minidisc?
2008-04-15 10619, 2008
adhawkins
Is the setup of a 'local' mirror documented anywhere?
if you want to just query PG, a db only install will do.
2008-04-15 10604, 2008
adhawkins
Does it have to be Apache1?
2008-04-15 10624, 2008
adhawkins
Actually, I run Debian, I see there's instructions for doing that
2008-04-15 10640, 2008
adhawkins
Are they up to date?
2008-04-15 10644, 2008
ruaok
apache-perl
2008-04-15 10652, 2008
ruaok
yes. yes.
2008-04-15 10600, 2008
ruaok
oh wait.
2008-04-15 10608, 2008
ruaok
the deb instructions are a little out of date.
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ruaok
follow INSTALL
2008-04-15 10619, 2008
ruaok
its kept up to date.
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adhawkins
Ok
2008-04-15 10636, 2008
ruaok
if you can find an apache-perl install target its pretty easy
2008-04-15 10608, 2008
adhawkins
apache-perl is still available in Debian
2008-04-15 10630, 2008
adhawkins
Appears to be based on 1.3.34
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MClemo
hidden track after a minute of silence (all in one track): "track name / [silence] / name of hidden track" or "track name / name of hidden track"?
2008-04-15 10652, 2008
ruaok
killer.
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BrianFreud
the latter
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petros_
latter
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Freso
Is Paul Taylor here?
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BrianFreud
don't think he normally hangs out in here
2008-04-15 10613, 2008
Freso
Hm.
2008-04-15 10628, 2008
Freso
Everyone contributing to MB should be here!!
2008-04-15 10629, 2008
Freso
Dammit.
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Clint
offer better refreshments
2008-04-15 10604, 2008
BrianFreud logs into channel, sees 382,334 people in channel :D
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Freso
Hehe.
2008-04-15 10601, 2008
BrianFreud
One site I use tried that - they put a challenge up to see how many users they could get into IRC all at the same time
2008-04-15 10635, 2008
BrianFreud
They got to around 10k, then the IRC server had to go offline, wasn't compiled to handle that many at the same time in one channel
2008-04-15 10606, 2008
BrianFreud
you basically had to read the channel via logs, text moved by just insanely fast
2008-04-15 10625, 2008
Freso
Haha.
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Freso
That's awesome.
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Freso
Only, I can't handle channels like that.
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Freso
That's why I'm not on #gentoo, #python, and so on :p
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warp wouldn't survive either.
2008-04-15 10639, 2008
BrianFreud
yeah, it was really annoying, but fun for a short time, seeing how high the numbers would go
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nikki
warp: I was doing barcodes for h!p stuff, couldn't find two of the minidisc ones, but I think I know what they should be, only I'm not sure if the second to last digit is 8 or not
2008-04-15 10621, 2008
nikki
warp: it seems like for zetima the second to last is the same for each format, like all CDs have 2 there, and all vinyl has 5, the one minidisc I've seen had 8, and BrianFreud was saying that it's fairly common, so I wondered if there were others
2008-04-15 10614, 2008
Kerensky97
(12:43:50 PM) Kerensky97: nope, third to last. 49424631000827
2008-04-15 10611, 2008
Kerensky97
Wait are you walking about the recordable mini disc or mini CD discs
2008-04-15 10613, 2008
christel
[Global Notice] Hi all! As you are aware we're preparing to move to a new Services package -- thanks to the hard work from the Atheme guys, in particular jilles (and nenolod) we are now ready for you all to come help us make sure they're approaching ready for production! Please join us over at the testnet. Connect to irc.freenode.net on port 9001. Thank you and have a great day!
2008-04-15 10615, 2008
warp
heh, the only minidisc i have has a barcode, but no numbers. (so i'd need a scanner).
