it goes and tries to find info on whatever release you're looking at. Just right now, it's a very very raw results list.
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dholmes_
brianfreud: that is pretty ill
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jdlh
"find info" meaning searching out in various useful places on the Web?
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dholmes_
Pretty much
2008-02-17 04815, 2008
dholmes_
It would be cool if it had a "create this edit" option
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brianfreud
yes
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brianfreud
that's where it eventually is going... like I said, very very alpha ;)
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dholmes_
It already comes up with all sorts of useful information like: "talking heads are you fucking kidding me there not hardcore screemo and shyt they fucking suck! dam tails .... Talking Heads kill ever"
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brianfreud
Right now, though, the results were good enough, at least that you can sort of see them amidst the mess, I figured some people might already be able to use it.
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brianfreud
lol
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dholmes_
Some of the other ones are pretty cool though ;)
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brianfreud
well, it's trying everywhere, which pretty much, until I start to get in and filter some more, means it's almost guaranteed to also have false positives on some places, where people are comparing (to/against) a Jamendo band, for example
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brianfreud
kind of cool to pull up a release with next to nothing - no events, no times, no anything, and see decent fixes though :)
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aCiD2
ok, natta folk@
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aCiD2
s/@/!
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CatCat
natta!
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Shapeshifter
ruaok: yeah, herbalizer is great, thanks for suggesting that ^^
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ruaok
:-)
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brianfreud
ruaok: you might find this interesting. Though, I'd add a 9th to the list; it's also the same one I think applies most to MB: "Quality" (I think that's a bit different than "Trust") - http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/kelly08/kelly08_i…
2008-02-17 04827, 2008
brianfreud
(I'd suggest, of the others, "Accessibility" (using the data) and "Findability" (indexing the data in ways that are helpful) are perhaps the two others that matter most to MB development)
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brianfreud just realized that google isn't HTML 4.0 compliant :P
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nikki
brianfreud: btw, yesterday's survey of random classical stuff found 29 CDs with X-Dur and 15 with X-dur, 13 with x-Moll and 19 with x-moll, 18 with Nr. and 1 with No., 23 with op. and 1 with Op. and 30 without in and 5 with in
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workaphobia
Picard's being irritating - any idea how to get it to accept tagging commands on port 8001 again? It worked, then I opened another instance and closed it, and now it doesn't
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luks
you can't
2008-02-17 04811, 2008
luks
start a new search from picard and it will update the site to use 8000
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workaphobia
oh, I see. So if I bind something to use 8000, then run picard again, that instance will bind on 8001...
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luks
yes, it tries ports from 8000 until it finds a free one
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workaphobia
That works, thanks, I didn't realize 8000 was the default
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workaphobia
Hooray, 30 albums of ogg and m4a finally tagged (I was waiting for some votes to default-accept). Now to put my mind at ease and stop stressing over minor innaccuracies, and blatently neglect my flac collection
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warp
:)
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luks
hm, we need some style guide for writing disambiguation comments
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luks
like caps or no trailing period
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brianfreud
I always figured sentence caps and no trailing period
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luks
yep, but not everybody uses that
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brianfreud
true
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brianfreud
GC for disambigs? :)
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luks
some pople write it all lowercase
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luks
or "A band from UK" vs. "UK band"
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brianfreud
agreed
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mudcrow
it needs to be short, sweet and to the point
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brianfreud
actually, though, the one I thing I wish is that we could require the disambig on both ends
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mudcrow
problem is with some artists it very hard to write a comment with enough detail to distinguish it, especially all those trance artists who use the same aliases
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brianfreud
"UK band" may not help me, when it comes to "UK band" vs "", and really should be "Dublin band" vs "London band"
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CatCat
or two bands fom the same country with simialr styles
2008-02-17 04833, 2008
CatCat
ho yes
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CatCat
had this
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brianfreud
you may not know the one band well, but if you know them enough to ID they're not the one you want, you can write a 3 word disambig for them
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Tykling
agreed, but if the two bands are clearly from two different countries, "a danish rapper" or similar on both ought to be enough I think
2008-02-17 04848, 2008
brianfreud
yes, but I'm referring to the "Disambig" vs "blank" - could be any situation
2008-02-17 04843, 2008
Tykling
yeah, there should be disambiguation notes on both ends
2008-02-17 04831, 2008
Tykling
not sure what to do about the tough cases with very genre-wise similar artists with the same names, who are these people and why are they being so difficult
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mudcrow
I prefer to use Country, Genre and wel known release for them, in most cases they have only released a couple of records
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warp often doesn't even know the country for the artist he's writing the disambig note for :(
2008-02-17 04819, 2008
mudcrow
like A.K.A. (UK garage/electro, released Warning) & A.K.A. (side project of Information Society, released Cruel Lovin') & A.K.A. (happy hardcore released Nuttiest Sound & Coming From The Top)
2008-02-17 04841, 2008
mudcrow
they seem to work better than just (is an alias of) etc. or (UK trance)
2008-02-17 04810, 2008
mudcrow
I usually have problems identifying the correct artist on VA releases, and not knowing the artists well comments such as AKA (alias of Paul Neville) are bloody useless
2008-02-17 04823, 2008
warp
really?
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warp
as long as it disambiguates IMO :)
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luks
if you have trance artists who released only a single track (and there is a lot of them), it's much easier to just use the track title for disambiguation
2008-02-17 04844, 2008
warp
genre is a bit vague, so i can understand objections to that. but alias of 'name' seems pretty decent.
2008-02-17 04813, 2008
warp
luks: ah, yes.
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mudcrow
except that alias of name rquires the user to have a fairly indepth knowledge of the artist. while using a track title as the comment is almost idiot proof
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drsaunde
i hate when they have "release album" or "key track"
2008-02-17 04817, 2008
warp
mudcrow: seems the other way around to me personally.
2008-02-17 04837, 2008
warp
(i'm not that good at remembering track titles :)
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luks
but when you are adding a VA release you have the track title in front of you :)
2008-02-17 04820, 2008
mudcrow
I'm speaking of those artists that only release one or two tracks, so the comment will match the track you are entering
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drsaunde
in that case yes i agree
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warp
luks: er, usually i'm adding a new artist artist, not selecting one of several existing. :S
2008-02-17 04801, 2008
drsaunde
but there are many that don't fit that case yet still have a "key track" that isn't even close the most represented on on VA comp
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Tykling
I am trying to add a danish album with a barcode that apparently isn't standard, the number is "7 24382 16142 4", should I just check the "this is a different type of barcode" box ?
2008-02-17 04810, 2008
Tykling
oh, nevermind :)
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mudcrow
I wish we had a better way of identifying artists, getting a huge list of similar named artists can be overwhelming at times and sometimes makes it very difficult to spot the artist you want.
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brianfreud
leverage the "is similar to" list :)
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CatCat
only onehitwonders (eg what was mentioned) sould have trackname as ambigiuation comment
