#musicbrainz

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      • ruaok isn't worried and goes to bed
      • ruaok
        shit.
      • I fucked up.
      • I invoked Hitler.
      • thus violated Godwin's law. yet I was going to call Godwin for advice?
      • oh doooood.
      • ruaok is feeling stupid
      • really. I'm not refreshing that page and I'm going to bed.
      • luks
        it's funny that he is the one posting hate speech links to MB and then he complains about it :)
      • mudcrow
        "Who would have guessed that this site would be so welcoming to nazi hate speech". "I see it has a welcoming home here. guess you get enough nazis on a site and you form a consensus".
      • canidae
        is it possible to get that edit publically available? i'd like to show it to people :p
      • mudcrow
        thats twice he's refered to MB users as nazis, surely thats libel
      • ruaok
        PDF it.
      • juhae
        Makes me kinda wonder how the court proceedings go if someone from the US sues me, for example
      • Am I expected to travel to the US for the duration of the court case?
      • ruaok
        no worries. they couldn't find you.
      • fin... what?
      • juhae
        Or would it be judged by Finnish laws
      • :D
      • ruaok
        that's near mexico, right?
      • juhae
        Between Mexico and Albania
      • ruaok
        lol
      • juhae
        The pearls of South Asia
      • canidae
        follow international & the laws of your country and there's little usa can do to you
      • they could send in special forces to kidnap you, though. some might consider that a invasion :p
      • (they had a case back in '94 here in norway, israeli special forces assassinated some guy they thought were a terrorist. he wasn't, he was quite innocent)
      • juhae
        I remember reading about that one
      • It was related to some bigger operation which Mossad generally messed up quite fantastically
      • canidae
        hmm, maybe it was in 96? don't remember exactly
      • 1973? wow, that long ago?
      • drsaunde
        i'm pretty sure they based a Law & Order episode on it
      • warp
        juhae: you might consider not traveling to the US if that happens.
      • juhae
        In Lillehammer, Norway, on 07 January 1974, Mossad agents mistakenly killed Ahmad Boushiki, an Algerian waiter carrying a Moroccan passport, whom they mistook for PLO security head Ali Ahmad Salameh, believed to have masterminded the 1972 massacre of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics [Salameh was killed in a 1979 car-bomb explosion in Lebanon]. Following the attack, the Mossad agents were arrested and tried before a Norwegian court. Five Israeli ...
      • ... agents were convicted and served short jail sentences, though Israel denied responsibility for the murder. In February 1996, the Israeli government agreed to compensate the family of Ahmad Boushiki.
      • canidae
      • ah, 96 did ring a bell
      • how on earth did they catch the israeli agents? usually it takes the police a year to do so
      • juhae
        They must've been ordered to surrender or something like that
      • Or alternatively the Norwegian police is very efficient, succeeding where most intelligence agencies in the world fail
      • canidae
        hehe, good joke :p
      • although, i heard a number some days ago, apparently 97% of the murder cases are solved around here
      • (wonder if that guy who spent half a lifetime in jail for a murder he didn't commit counts on that statistic)
      • poor sucker died just before they figured out "oh, he really was innocent"
      • juhae
        I think the percentage is quite near that over here in Finland as well
      • Small countries and usually pretty stupid murderers
      • canidae
        we "only" got 30 murders/year, though
      • ruaok
        in the whole country?
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      • canidae
        yeh
      • ruaok
        LA has waaay more than that.
      • probably that many in 30-60 days. :-(
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      • canidae
        usually it's drug addicts or, with taking the risk of sounding like a racist, "honor murder" (not sure the right word) within certain religious... circles
      • juhae
        We had 111 killings in 2006 (including murder, manslaughter and so forth)
      • Most of them are prolly unintentional deaths by drunken people
      • canidae
        you got roughly 12% more people
      • (than norway)
      • juhae
        Like driving over someone while drunk or hitting someone in the head too hard
      • canidae
        believe 30/year is just murder
      • hmm, where did i read it again
      • drsaunde
        it's no LA..but there's usually at least one every weekend here in T.O.
      • canidae
        here we go. early 70's it was between 21-27 murders/year. in '86 & '91 it peaked at 55 murders/year and in 2006 i believe it was quite close to 30
      • 33 in 2005
      • juhae
        59 murders in 2006
      • canidae
        generally i'd say nothern european countries got a fairly well working system. might help that out countries aren't that crowded too
      • juhae
        The dark winter tends to show in the suicide statistics though
      • Or violent crimes, I guess
      • But yeah, I figure we're doing quite good over here in general :)
      • canidae
        let's see, found some nice statistics. in 2005 173 people commited suicide in norway
      • 170 in 2004 and 128 in 2003
      • quite a leap there
      • whoops, that's wrong
      • that was women
      • damn, men are much worse. 360 in 2005, 359 in 2004 and 374 in 2003
      • warp
        ff
      • ff
      • (woops, windows randomly switched back to qwerty for this window).
      • juhae
      • not really surprising there was a crazy peak in suicides when soviet union fell and our economy was shot to hell
      • Muzzz
        warp, windows does wierd things with multiple keymaps, whereby it supports different keyboard settings per window
      • eg, I can have a FI keymap for MSN and IRC, yet a UK keymap for Firefox and Thundertird etc etc
      • warp
        Muzzz: yes, i know. totally annoying, i cannot imagine why you would ever want thact.
      • s/act/at/
      • Muzzz
        Alt+Shift is the shortcut to switch keymaps
      • Alt+Left Shift, rather
      • warp
        alt+lshift, yes. i know.
      • Muzzz
        Ah,y ou said "random", thought you were a bit confused as to why it did that
      • Muzzz potters back off to doing what it was he was doing
      • juhae
        that must be why i'm always in trouble of changing keyboard layouts, as i use alt+tab & alt+shift+tab to change windows
      • thanks for solving the mystery
      • warp
        Muzzz: easier to blame windows :). i probably hit alt+lshift by accident, yes.
      • Muzzz
        :P PEBKAC
      • warp
        well, i still blame windows for having a keymap per window.
      • FauxFaux
        That always makes my brain hurt. D:
      • (Muzzz, that is, not Windows)
      • Muzzz
        :'(
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      • mudcrow
        chuck loads of yes votes at this please. http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8419339
      • shame i dont live in usa, i'd travel to see them just to smack the stupid fucker in the face
      • juhae
        "Ok Rob, Point taken, you prefer to facilitate Nazis to be able to illegally steel a trademark from an honest hardworking artist to distribute hate speech which is not protected free speech. I hope you feel good about that."
      • prrrflt :D
      • One of the reasons I really love to play punk is that there's none of that butthurt-"artist"-crap
      • mudcrow
        very true
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      • juhae
        wolfpack just changed their name to wolfbrigade after they found out there was a neo-nazi organization called "wolfpack"
      • and went on with their stuff
      • mudcrow
        If he's so upset be the association why not just change the name, it would ruin his "reputation" less than being a complete knobhead
      • drsaunde
        the exception being Handsome "Dickhead" Manitoba
      • mudcrow
        There seems to be a lot of neo-nazi metal bands that use the same name as other metal bands or punk bands.
      • juhae
      • when all those were just one unsorted mess, the discography was a bit hilarious
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      • outsidecontext
        still the same topic? didn't that guy give up?
      • mudcrow
        no, he and his friend are still going strong and still insist on vandalising the other band entry
      • juhae
        he shall fight on the beaches, he shall fight on the landing grounds, he shall fight in the fields and in the streets, he shall fight in the hills..
      • etc
      • mudcrow
        and state i'm corrupting the database by raising the release and artist to high level and i'm workin to my own agenda and i'm a nazi lover. they are my new bestest friends
      • outsidecontext
        lol. just reading it
      • when exactly did we force him to change his name?
      • mudcrow
        I suggest he might want to change his name, seemed to upset him
      • *suggested
      • outsidecontext
        :)
      • petros
        One of the more weird things re. neo-nazis I've noticed was the controversy surrounding the THor Steinar clothing line.
      • juhae
        christ, that discussion is bizarre
      • petros
      • mudcrow
        http://www.discogs.com/label/Apraxia hemay struggle to prove his claim to copyright when that label has been using the name for a lot longer
      • juhae
        medical names, such a cliche
      • mudcrow
        why are so many music artists such complete wankers with their heads stuck up their arses?
      • petros
        mudcrow: artist annotation as to why the high quality might be in order ;)
      • mudcrow
        same as my edit note? to stop stupid twats from vandalising it?
      • I think i'll let someone else write an annotation, i'm just slightly completely pissed off with them to write anything not offensive
      • petros
        Yeah, Something like that. We need some kind of hard-to-edit note reasoning the "protection" of the eartist.
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      • mudcrow
        maybe outsidecontext could write an annotation. his edit notes are more reasonable then mine. I get angry too easily
      • petros
        I've got ione ready if need be.
      • mudcrow
        ok please do it then petros, thanks
      • outsidecontext
        something simple without offenses: http://musicbrainz.org/show/artist/?artistid=11...
      • uh, sorry. didn't see your post, petros
      • mudcrow
        thanks outsidecontext and petros
      • petros
        outsidecontext: You did good, grashopper ;)
      • mudcrow goes back to The Numbers
      • outsidecontext
        :) back to work