So they, at least, are sorting it under "fu" ("bu")
2008-02-29 06055, 2008
nikki grumbles
2008-02-29 06002, 2008
nikki
why did I have to forget my external drive :/
2008-02-29 06030, 2008
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mikemorr
If a track's title is just ? (a question mark), and that's causing technical problems (inability to create a file by that name), what's the best way to tell Picard to fix it?
what a brilliant idea... the freedb version of MB, and the MB version of MB
2008-02-29 06042, 2008
Freso
Someone should tell him to take action against freedb et al as well.
2008-02-29 06021, 2008
xlotlu
it's just FUD. and dumb FUD for that matter
2008-02-29 06031, 2008
BrianFreudf
yup
2008-02-29 06054, 2008
BrianFreudf
Does this mean I can sue my high school and my college and their text book publishers for mentioning Mein Kampf too?
2008-02-29 06021, 2008
ojnkpjg
who is this again? and what reputation does he have?
2008-02-29 06030, 2008
xlotlu
^^ great reading
2008-02-29 06030, 2008
ojnkpjg
for someone nobody's heard of
2008-02-29 06007, 2008
yllona
just another internet kook looking to raise his "profile"
2008-02-29 06023, 2008
BrianFreudf
he's used to the wikipedia way... throw a million utterly irrelevant laws for the wrong countries out, throw a ton of FUD out, and get it removed because people get worried
2008-02-29 06045, 2008
xlotlu
actually there's no law there
2008-02-29 06048, 2008
BrianFreudf
yup
2008-02-29 06050, 2008
srotta
BrianFreudf: You should.
2008-02-29 06005, 2008
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BrianFreudf
I can spell hate using letter from HMA's nick! I'm SO gonna sue! :D
2008-02-29 06028, 2008
xlotlu
the word is non-copyrightable, only tm-able. and you can name whatever you want with it
2008-02-29 06041, 2008
BrianFreudf
but it's not even tm'able in the way he wants
2008-02-29 06051, 2008
ojnkpjg
i think i might sue him for using the word 'nazi'
2008-02-29 06058, 2008
ojnkpjg
which, i think, constitutes hate speech
2008-02-29 06002, 2008
xlotlu
that'd be nice :)
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xlotlu
as well as linking to hate sites ;)
2008-02-29 06011, 2008
BrianFreudf
slander?
2008-02-29 06019, 2008
BrianFreudf
calling us nazis? :D
2008-02-29 06011, 2008
BrianFreudf would much rather figure out why mb.org doesn't like requests test does like :P
2008-02-29 06023, 2008
xlotlu
according to his logic documenting hate speech is illegal. then so must be his linking to it.
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ojnkpjg
maybe it's legal to link to it as long as you didn't produce it
2008-02-29 06004, 2008
ojnkpjg
sort of like how you can possess a small amount of certain drugs in some countries, just not grow it :P
2008-02-29 06018, 2008
xlotlu
linking isn't illegal, no matter what you link to
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
srotta
Depends on who you ask...
2008-02-29 06044, 2008
srotta
:P
2008-02-29 06047, 2008
BrianFreudf
no, never illegal, though it can be copyright-infringing :P
2008-02-29 06006, 2008
srotta
How?
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
BrianFreudf
the whole chain of US court decisions on linking/deep-linking/etc that make coverart so sticky
2008-02-29 06034, 2008
srotta
Embedding, yes. Linking, pretty fat-fetched.
2008-02-29 06040, 2008
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Freso has possibly set him on to Discogs' listing as well, now: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8420523
2008-02-29 06009, 2008
ojnkpjg
hehe
2008-02-29 06011, 2008
ojnkpjg
good work
2008-02-29 06022, 2008
Freso
Thank you. I couldn't help meself. :/
2008-02-29 06012, 2008
Freso
It even touch more research into Discogs' listing than I'm usually willing to do for artists outside my "interest sphere"... >_>
2008-02-29 06016, 2008
Freso
*took
2008-02-29 06021, 2008
Freso
(toch? wtf?)
2008-02-29 06026, 2008
Freso
...
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
FauxFaux toches Freso.
2008-02-29 06035, 2008
Freso
:o
2008-02-29 06037, 2008
ojnkpjg
one of the guys in the picture is holding a sword
2008-02-29 06040, 2008
xlotlu
Freso is in mo mode
2008-02-29 06016, 2008
ojnkpjg
he's the only one without a nasty scowl on his face
2008-02-29 06021, 2008
ojnkpjg
probably because he got to hold the sword
2008-02-29 06028, 2008
Freso
Heh.
2008-02-29 06039, 2008
xlotlu
more probably because he actually tried to wield it
2008-02-29 06003, 2008
Muzzz
touch FauxFaux
2008-02-29 06011, 2008
Muzzz
echo "ponis" >> FauxFaux
2008-02-29 06016, 2008
FauxFaux
Can't touch this.
2008-02-29 06029, 2008
Muzzz
Stop.
2008-02-29 06032, 2008
Muzzz
Hammertime.
2008-02-29 06006, 2008
xlotlu
i'm just figuring, it's too easy to vandalize MB
2008-02-29 06022, 2008
Freso
ojnkpjg: Well, pictures of scowling and sword wielding folks does not constitute enough proof if identicality for me, I'm afraid. I had to make sure they actually had tracks/releases/something in common.
2008-02-29 06027, 2008
xlotlu
you just need 4 e-mails
2008-02-29 06003, 2008
tciddAlateMriaH
tciddAlateMriaH is now known as HairMetalAddict
2008-02-29 06020, 2008
Freso
xlotlu: You don't even need that to vandalise Wikipedia. Also, you don't even need four e-mails, just four e-mail addresses. :)
2008-02-29 06035, 2008
luks_
just one is enough
2008-02-29 06038, 2008
xlotlu
Freso: wikipedia has all previous versions saved
2008-02-29 06041, 2008
Freso has two e-mails, but infinite e-mail addresses.
2008-02-29 06050, 2008
Freso
xlotlu: So do we?
2008-02-29 06057, 2008
xlotlu
do you?
2008-02-29 06002, 2008
Freso
xlotlu: Aye.
2008-02-29 06009, 2008
xlotlu
the removed data too?
2008-02-29 06046, 2008
Freso
xlotlu: I'm pretty sure. At least there were plans once... now I'm being put in doubt. :x
2008-02-29 06038, 2008
FauxFaux
xlotlu: The edit history is there, as are previous revisions in backups (ie. coarsly),b ut you can just re-run the edit-history selectively?
2008-02-29 06052, 2008
xlotlu
FauxFaux: 1. there's no mechanism to do that; 2. even if it were, you'd need to get a hold of that item, which is no longer in the db and can't get hold of its id..
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FauxFaux
I bet the edit processor can cope with processing edits. ¬_¬
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xlotlu
or hmm the id is easy to get from the edits
2008-02-29 06036, 2008
xlotlu
well, right now there's no way to undo a removal. and iirc there's no way to access the edit history of a removed item
2008-02-29 06058, 2008
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xlotlu
but that's probably just a template issue
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xlotlu
all in all, new editors' votes shouldn't close a new editor's edit..
2008-02-29 06031, 2008
FauxFaux
BORED
2008-02-29 06054, 2008
xlotlu
... or better, count as say 1/2 of a vote for any type of editor... because you can "vandalize" by voting no to a perfectly ok edit
2008-02-29 06035, 2008
ojnkpjg
it gets too hard to work this stuff out
2008-02-29 06043, 2008
ojnkpjg
it's not worth the effort of doing something like that
2008-02-29 06044, 2008
BrianFreudf
afaik, all removed releases, don't they just go into a separate part of the db?
2008-02-29 06048, 2008
ojnkpjg
the system works well enough as it is
2008-02-29 06022, 2008
luks_
BrianFreudf: no
2008-02-29 06035, 2008
luks_
removed releases are... removed
2008-02-29 06000, 2008
ojnkpjg
i just link the open remove edits search and look it over when i'm bored and have a few minutes
2008-02-29 06000, 2008
BrianFreudf
ah; thought all removed/cancelled/etc stuff ended up dumped in some big junk db
2008-02-29 06002, 2008
luks_
but a massive merge would be a better way to vandalize the db
2008-02-29 06007, 2008
BrianFreudf
agreed
2008-02-29 06014, 2008
BrianFreudf
merge sony into columbia, or some such
2008-02-29 06027, 2008
BrianFreudf
pearl jam into Nirvana... ouch
2008-02-29 06030, 2008
ojnkpjg
well, you can merge more than one thing at a time
2008-02-29 06049, 2008
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ojnkpjg
merge beethoven and bach into the beatles
2008-02-29 06016, 2008
ojnkpjg
that'd be pretty
2008-02-29 06032, 2008
luks_
or all beethoven's releases into one :)
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srotta
No one would notice that.
2008-02-29 06047, 2008
srotta
:P
2008-02-29 06049, 2008
FauxFaux
lauri: (Hi.). Horribly painful, give me a while. =p
2008-02-29 06050, 2008
luks_
hehe
2008-02-29 06051, 2008
BrianFreudf
ojnkpjg: I think you're right, I think it does work pretty well, but I do think there are holes. Personally, I'd be fine if all remove or merge edit types were like the add NAT type. It's still exploitable, but at least you have to plan in advance
2008-02-29 06002, 2008
xlotlu
^^ this stuff shouldn't have been logged :)
2008-02-29 06016, 2008
BrianFreudf
(or voting on the same, not just actually making the edits)
2008-02-29 06023, 2008
luks_
I think removes should stay open for the whole voting period
2008-02-29 06023, 2008
ojnkpjg
it's nothing someone couldn't figure out in a minute or two
2008-02-29 06028, 2008
ojnkpjg
yeah, i think that makes sense
2008-02-29 06044, 2008
luks_
so noone can just make it pass within a hour
2008-02-29 06049, 2008
BrianFreudf
yup
2008-02-29 06054, 2008
ojnkpjg
actually, you don'
2008-02-29 06059, 2008
ojnkpjg
t even need an hour, do you?
2008-02-29 06002, 2008
luks_
nope
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ojnkpjg
good thing the server throws 503 so readily :)
2008-02-29 06019, 2008
BrianFreudf
if it's still open, I can always toss in a no/yes to block it before the bot hits
