low blood sugar is a bitch. i just realized i hadn't eaten since breakfast -- when i said my duden says it's time for breakfast
2008-02-23 05445, 2008
Yllona
and that was ~11:00 am
2008-02-23 05420, 2008
Yllona
for leopard and Xcode 2.5 - 3.0 you can do a more regular open source developer configuration
2008-02-23 05450, 2008
Yllona
but in Tiger the default path is the /Developer directory
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Yllona
i'll download and install Xcode 2.5; it's a "minor" upgrade ... just some transitional stuff in preparation for leopard and the xcode 3.0 environment
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Yllona
none of the audio/video stuff i do is leopard yet, but i can do the dual build environment on both machines
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ruaok
warp: page redirects now. please check me.
2008-02-23 05427, 2008
Yllona
i'll catch up tomorrow.
2008-02-23 05437, 2008
Yllona
laterz peoples
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warp
ruaok: yeah, works. thanks again!
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ruaok
:-)
2008-02-23 05408, 2008
ruaok
ok, I'm going to keel over soon,
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ruaok
natta!
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nikki doesn't like the wording of that page about japanese
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warp
nikki: which bit?
2008-02-23 05456, 2008
nikki
the "In English" bit
2008-02-23 05431, 2008
warp
er, yes. that is a weird heading.
2008-02-23 05445, 2008
nikki
no, not the name of the heading, the sentence under it
2008-02-23 05406, 2008
warp
why?
2008-02-23 05424, 2008
warp
that IS what usually happens :)
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nikki
it doesn't distinguish between japanese scripts and transliterations (and as far as I know, there's no consensus about the capitalisation of tracks on transliterations), and it doesn't make it clear that it doesn't always apply (i.e. if it's shown to be inconsistent), you can't always copy things exactly (e.g. how do you represent a new line?) and I really don't agree with copying extra track information character-for-character
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nikki
the capitalisation of the actually song title is usually consistent, but the formatting of the extra stuff like instrumental and versions varies so much - I don't see why japanese releases should copy the cover and not western ones when they're as inconsistent as each other
2008-02-23 05449, 2008
nikki
err, actual song title, even
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warp
er, in my experince the extra stuff is very consistent, and needs to be copied verbatim when it is.
2008-02-23 05432, 2008
warp
obviously, when it's not... none of this applies and you use the normal capitalization rules.
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nikki
I don't just mean capitalistion, I mean the characters used and the scripts used
2008-02-23 05427, 2008
nikki
I'm often unsure whether something actually says karaoke or カラオケ
2008-02-23 05448, 2008
warp
hm?
2008-02-23 05435, 2008
nikki
well, one official site will say one and another will say something else
2008-02-23 05442, 2008
nikki
I suppose I should just find some examples
2008-02-23 05450, 2008
warp
then they're not being consistent, and the whole shebang doesn't apply.
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nikki
but the page doesn't say that, it says do it anyway
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warp
it doesn't, but i can see why you think it's not clear enough.
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warp
nikki: if you have a better suggestions, feel free to mail it to me, and i'll take it through the RFC/RFV process on mb-style.
2008-02-23 05439, 2008
warp
nikki: (or even better, you do that yourself ;)
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nikki has been refraining from posting on the mailing lists :P
2008-02-23 05420, 2008
warp
nikki: oh, and if you have examples of a song title with weird but consistent capitalization, but extra title information being different on seperate official sources, i'd really like to see that.
2008-02-23 05413, 2008
warp
nikki: yes, i gathered, hence my offer to do thing mailing-list stuff for you.
2008-02-23 05416, 2008
warp
+that
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nikki also thinks it wouldn't be a good idea anyway, she's in a vile mood because of her teeth
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nikki
apparently I've gotta wait a few weeks before I even get an appointment with the guys who can do something about them :(
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CatCat
hii
2008-02-23 05410, 2008
warp
yikes :(
2008-02-23 05411, 2008
CatCat
luks_: hello
2008-02-23 05418, 2008
warp
mooooo
2008-02-23 05430, 2008
nikki
hopefully I won't destroy my liver by then
2008-02-23 05442, 2008
CatCat
waaaarp!
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CatCat
luks pong
2008-02-23 05448, 2008
warp
:)
2008-02-23 05447, 2008
warp
i have this feeling i should go to the supermarket, but i have no idea for what exactly.
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CatCat has got Baileys
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CatCat
\o/
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CatCat
ever drunken Baileys from a shoe?
2008-02-23 05401, 2008
warp has dr. pepper
2008-02-23 05409, 2008
CatCat
:(-
2008-02-23 05434, 2008
nikki
warp: go buy me some squash
2008-02-23 05455, 2008
warp
what is squash, and when will you be picking it up? :)
2008-02-23 05416, 2008
CatCat squashes nikki
2008-02-23 05416, 2008
nikki
it's cheap fruit flavoured liquid which you mix with water
2008-02-23 05420, 2008
nikki
ow :(
2008-02-23 05424, 2008
nikki
that's meeeean!
2008-02-23 05431, 2008
CatCat
no, is luffy squash
2008-02-23 05412, 2008
warp
hm
2008-02-23 05428, 2008
warp
anything mixed with water is called 'lemonade' in my mind.
2008-02-23 05442, 2008
CatCat
koolade or uh.. ja-da
2008-02-23 05444, 2008
CatCat
:p
2008-02-23 05454, 2008
nikki
lemonade is fizzy
2008-02-23 05459, 2008
nikki
unless it's homemade stuff
2008-02-23 05404, 2008
nikki
in which case it has real fruit in it
2008-02-23 05417, 2008
CatCat
if its liquid and you mix it with water its saft
2008-02-23 05440, 2008
FauxFaux
FauxFaux is now known as FauxFosdem
2008-02-23 05446, 2008
nikki
oh, do you have capri sonne or ribena or something?
wtf lol the only interlang wikilink is to the norwegian one
2008-02-23 05416, 2008
CatCat
awsome warpwarp
2008-02-23 05426, 2008
warp
CatCat: i don't understand much of the edits, i won't spend more time on them, sorry.
2008-02-23 05458, 2008
CatCat
acording o norwegian thingy its.. uh saft, but there is no dependanchy that a certan amoutn actually *has* to be from berries and fruit, this is so with saft, i think
