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      • Yllona
        ruaok: i think i'v e figured it out. i need to specify the path to expat.h on the configure command options
      • ruaok
        I'm too tired to rmember shit...
      • can I just rename it for you?
      • warp
        ruaok: sure
      • ruaok
        k
      • warp
        ruaok: it'd be super awesome if you could set a redirect from the old page to the new page.
      • ruaok
        to JapaneseReleasesClarification , right ?
      • Yllona
        i have the dfault osx developer for osx/tiger. and i'm not using xcode which does alol that stuff automatically.
      • warp
        ruaok: yes!
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      • Yllona
        ruaok: so i'll tackle it tomorrow after i get back from errands
      • ruaok
      • Yllona
        then i'll do a proper xcode project
      • warp
        thanks!
      • warp edits
      • Yllona
        warp & ruaok: sorry for being off-topic :)
      • ruaok
        np
      • Yllona
        low blood sugar is a bitch. i just realized i hadn't eaten since breakfast -- when i said my duden says it's time for breakfast
      • and that was ~11:00 am
      • for leopard and Xcode 2.5 - 3.0 you can do a more regular open source developer configuration
      • but in Tiger the default path is the /Developer directory
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      • i'll download and install Xcode 2.5; it's a "minor" upgrade ... just some transitional stuff in preparation for leopard and the xcode 3.0 environment
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      • none of the audio/video stuff i do is leopard yet, but i can do the dual build environment on both machines
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      • ruaok
        warp: page redirects now. please check me.
      • Yllona
        i'll catch up tomorrow.
      • laterz peoples
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      • warp
        ruaok: yeah, works. thanks again!
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      • ruaok
        :-)
      • ok, I'm going to keel over soon,
      • natta!
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      • nikki doesn't like the wording of that page about japanese
      • warp
        nikki: which bit?
      • nikki
        the "In English" bit
      • warp
        er, yes. that is a weird heading.
      • nikki
        no, not the name of the heading, the sentence under it
      • warp
        why?
      • that IS what usually happens :)
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      • nikki
        it doesn't distinguish between japanese scripts and transliterations (and as far as I know, there's no consensus about the capitalisation of tracks on transliterations), and it doesn't make it clear that it doesn't always apply (i.e. if it's shown to be inconsistent), you can't always copy things exactly (e.g. how do you represent a new line?) and I really don't agree with copying extra track information character-for-character
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      • the capitalisation of the actually song title is usually consistent, but the formatting of the extra stuff like instrumental and versions varies so much - I don't see why japanese releases should copy the cover and not western ones when they're as inconsistent as each other
      • err, actual song title, even
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      • warp
        er, in my experince the extra stuff is very consistent, and needs to be copied verbatim when it is.
      • obviously, when it's not... none of this applies and you use the normal capitalization rules.
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      • nikki
        I don't just mean capitalistion, I mean the characters used and the scripts used
      • I'm often unsure whether something actually says karaoke or カラオケ
      • warp
        hm?
      • nikki
        well, one official site will say one and another will say something else
      • I suppose I should just find some examples
      • warp
        then they're not being consistent, and the whole shebang doesn't apply.
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      • nikki
        but the page doesn't say that, it says do it anyway
      • warp
        it doesn't, but i can see why you think it's not clear enough.
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      • nikki: if you have a better suggestions, feel free to mail it to me, and i'll take it through the RFC/RFV process on mb-style.
      • nikki: (or even better, you do that yourself ;)
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      • nikki has been refraining from posting on the mailing lists :P
      • nikki: oh, and if you have examples of a song title with weird but consistent capitalization, but extra title information being different on seperate official sources, i'd really like to see that.
      • nikki: yes, i gathered, hence my offer to do thing mailing-list stuff for you.
      • +that
      • nikki also thinks it wouldn't be a good idea anyway, she's in a vile mood because of her teeth
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      • nikki
        apparently I've gotta wait a few weeks before I even get an appointment with the guys who can do something about them :(
      • CatCat
        hii
      • warp
        yikes :(
      • CatCat
        luks_: hello
      • warp
        mooooo
      • nikki
        hopefully I won't destroy my liver by then
      • CatCat
        waaaarp!
      • luks pong
      • warp
        :)
      • i have this feeling i should go to the supermarket, but i have no idea for what exactly.
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      • CatCat has got Baileys
      • CatCat
        \o/
      • ever drunken Baileys from a shoe?
      • warp has dr. pepper
      • :(-
      • nikki
        warp: go buy me some squash
      • warp
        what is squash, and when will you be picking it up? :)
      • CatCat squashes nikki
      • nikki
        it's cheap fruit flavoured liquid which you mix with water
      • ow :(
      • that's meeeean!
      • CatCat
        no, is luffy squash
      • warp
        hm
      • anything mixed with water is called 'lemonade' in my mind.
      • CatCat
        koolade or uh.. ja-da
      • :p
      • nikki
        lemonade is fizzy
      • unless it's homemade stuff
      • in which case it has real fruit in it
      • CatCat
        if its liquid and you mix it with water its saft
      • FauxFaux
        FauxFaux is now known as FauxFosdem
      • nikki
        oh, do you have capri sonne or ribena or something?
      • CatCat
        hn.. http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=8364722 metalarchives are tits up again and i think that unknown country is kinda useless.. just a date and no label info or what
      • nikki
        those are the same sort of thing
      • CatCat
        oh! capri sonne we has
      • nikki prods FauxFosdem
      • very bloddy expensive
      • but you dotn mix it with water
      • nikki
        I know
      • warp
        nikki: ok, looks like the dutch 'limonade' totally doesn't match up with the english 'lemonade', even though the origin of the words is the same.
      • nikki
        but those are like what you get when you mix squash with water
      • CatCat
      • FauxFosdem
        nikki!
      • nikki
        FauxFosdem: have you fixed your connection?
      • CatCat
        limonade (old) is sort of a sophisitcated soft drink people drank before.. in .no language
      • FauxFosdem
        Unfortunately it's not my fault; it's my uni'sconnection to JANET.
      • CatCat
        FauxFosdem: have BRAD spank her
      • nikki
        anyway, I drink tons of squash because it's cheap and makes my icky tap water taste nicer
      • CatCat
        or even FRANK
      • :3
      • FauxFosdem
        Squash. <3
      • nikki
        I have no idea why my tap water is vile, but I wouldn't even drink it when drunk
      • CatCat
        to me squash is this cucumber wannabe you put salt on and then cook maybe in a soup
      • nikki: XD frink it when drunk
      • warp
        CatCat: what's happening there?
      • CatCat
        he is using japanese orchestra symphony on the track artist for a soundtrack.. i *think*
      • nikki
      • CatCat
        i know what a squash is a.. uh thats not a squash
      • thats brus
      • nikki
        brus?
      • CatCat
        saft /drikke
      • soda
      • brus is to uh.. do that think that carbonated water does
      • nikki
      • CatCat
        sweds have this discusting not-carbonated brus called mer :(
      • nikki
        fizzes? bubbles? makes you burp?
      • CatCat
        ja
      • but they also have soemthing caleld sockerdrikka (sugardrink) wich is made of epic win
      • warp
        CatCat: i found a backcover http://www.hlj.com/product/COCC72015 :)
      • CatCat
        wtf lol the only interlang wikilink is to the norwegian one
      • awsome warpwarp
      • warp
        CatCat: i don't understand much of the edits, i won't spend more time on them, sorry.
      • CatCat
        acording o norwegian thingy its.. uh saft, but there is no dependanchy that a certan amoutn actually *has* to be from berries and fruit, this is so with saft, i think