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      • brianfreud
        hmmm, I can see "live soundtrack single official", but not "official bootleg soundtrack"
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      • luks
        brianfreud: that's the next plan, to move status to release events
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      • brianfreud
        I see
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      • nikki
        you can already get the tags from the db dump, I thought...
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      • ruaok
        not the raw tags.
      • 2008-02-19 05032, 2008

      • ruaok
        the ones in the dump are the agrregated tags
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      • nikki wonders what the difference is
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      • brianfreud
        *my* tags vs *all of our* tags
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      • ruaok
        thanks brianfreud
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      • nikki
        ah
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      • plzstopit
        Hey
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      • plzstopit
        hi guys
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      • luks
        hi
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      • plzstopit
        I just want to be sure before I mess up someone's work..
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      • plzstopit
      • 2008-02-19 05030, 2008

      • plzstopit
        Those aren't proper tags, right? >_>
      • 2008-02-19 05056, 2008

      • plzstopit
        The <>'s should be ()'s, right?
      • 2008-02-19 05014, 2008

      • plzstopit
        "takes 2~7" should be "takes 2-7", right?
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      • luks
        I'd say "It's Not too Bad, Take 1 (Santa Isabel demo)
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      • srotta
        I'd say "It's Not Too Bad (take 1: Santa Isabel demo)".
      • 2008-02-19 05036, 2008

      • plzstopit
        Is that like..the rules or is that your personal preference?
      • 2008-02-19 05053, 2008

      • srotta
        Or ... "(take 1, Santa Isabel demo)"
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      • luks
        "(take 1, Santa Isabel demo)" probably looks best
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      • plzstopit
        The labels aren't even consistant. :(
      • 2008-02-19 05035, 2008

      • srotta
        Actually I'd probably lose some of that information and move it into track annotations.
      • 2008-02-19 05015, 2008

      • srotta
        Not necessary on those It's Not Too Bad tracks, but "elec. guit. playb. voc. etc." looks like crap and it's unnecessary in track title.
      • 2008-02-19 05005, 2008

      • plzstopit
        :( I have to tag this before I listen to it and it's 3 AM. :(
      • 2008-02-19 05055, 2008

      • luks
        to the editmobile! :)
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      • plzstopit
        lol
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      • plzstopit
        As ugly as "Kenwood demo; mellotron/vocal o/dubs ontocomposing seq" is, I think it's necessary because the album is showing the process in which the song was created
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      • plzstopit
        The evolution of the song, basically.
      • 2008-02-19 05035, 2008

      • plzstopit
        How else should you label it other than Strawberry Fields Forever A or something?
      • 2008-02-19 05028, 2008

      • brianfreud
        "ontocomposing" etc :(
      • 2008-02-19 05058, 2008

      • warp
        "I have to tag this before I listen to it" :D
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      • warp is not alone.
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      • plzstopit
        haha
      • 2008-02-19 05020, 2008

      • plzstopit
        Yeah. :/
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      • plzstopit
        Ah
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      • plzstopit
        All done. :)
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      • plzstopit
        How can I tag the release with my edits again?
      • 2008-02-19 05001, 2008

      • brianfreud
        the edits have to pass
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      • plzstopit
        Nooooooooo
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      • plzstopit
        well, so much for that. :/
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      • petros
        Ok, I've must have missed a memo. When trying to do a 'guess case' on a track with an added '(bonus track)', the '(bonus track)' disappears. Why is this?
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      • petros
        Thanks.
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      • Jormangeud^
        Jormangeud^ is now known as Jormangeud
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      • FauxFaux
        http://www.thegreatestmusiccollection.com/ <-- quick, merge his db with musicbrainz!
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      • brianfreud
        man, I remember reading about this guy - he literally has like a million LPs
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      • atsampson
        "Digital preservation would be fine were it not for the fact that CDs have a life-span of just 15 to 20 years." -- erm, no...
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      • brianfreud
        theoretically, no, realistically, 15-20 is pushing it
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      • atsampson
        but if you're going to preserve large quantities of data, you don't do it on CD, you do it on some media that you can easily bulk-copy -- that's the point of digital preservation
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      • atsampson
        (large hard disk arrays, for example)
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      • brianfreud
        which then need to be kept unpowered, but powered often enough to keep the grease inside from degenerating, and also which need to be copied over to new drives every so often
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      • brianfreud
        The LoC is having huge issues keeping data-based records good for long periods due to the various issues.
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      • brianfreud
        btw, FauxFaux, your "find new releases of type" search is making it much easier when I need certain types of releases to test things on :)
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      • FauxFaux
        \o/
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      • warp
        brianfreud: my first cd recordables were still readable after 10 years. I expect a properly pressed CD should survive 15 years if treated reasonably well.
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      • warp
        (or was this referring to recordables?)
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      • brianfreud
        I was more thinking recordables, if we're talking data storage, but even for properly pressed CDs, I've had a large number disc rot after only 5 to 8
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      • brianfreud
        if anyone's interested, current build: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/brianfreud/9…
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      • luks
        you are "building" javascript? :)
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      • canidae
        i'm still able to rip my oldest cds, they must be at least 15 years old
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      • brianfreud
        nah
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      • warp
        brianfreud: odd, what are you doing to those poor discs?
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      • brianfreud
        just seemed like the best word :P
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      • brianfreud
        warp: finding as much info as possible about them that's not already in the db
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      • warp
        brianfreud: which involves repeatedly scratching them with sharp objects?
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      • brianfreud
        oh - no idea, maybe it was the extreme hot-cold of DC, but I never had any last more than a few years. Friends had the same experience, had to rebuy the same CDs over and over.
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      • warp
        wow, that sucks.
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      • brianfreud
        yeah, you could see little black spots start to grow "in" them, in the layer between the aluminum and the plastic, or the discs would start to turn a whitish opaque from the outside edges in.
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      • CatCat
        canidae: me too, thoguh i dont think they're that old.. uh oldest.. hmm maybe 10
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      • CatCat
        brianfreud: silly things, its sould have monies backs
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      • brianfreud
        lol, I always thought the same... if they're "licensing" me the music, not selling it, when the CD stops working, or they come out with a new format, I ought to be able to replace/upgrade my "license" for less :P
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      • CatCat
        my mom bought lp's then sold them for monies and bough cheap casettes
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      • canidae
        those discs i kept in the car died after some years, but they were treated less nicely & experienced extreme temperatures in both directions
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      • CatCat
        soem casettes had to be rebought got worn down
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      • canidae
        and most of them were burned anyways, just because i knew they'de be treated rough
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      • CatCat
        now i am bying the cd's.. so have we bought the music licence enough now soon?
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      • CatCat
        i download with a cleanconcess
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      • CatCat
        yea
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      • warp downloads with a clean conscious regardless.
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      • CatCat
        dethklok \m/
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      • CatCat
        ja jøss, en freso
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      • Freso
        Hvor? :o
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      • CatCat
        hei der
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      • CatCat
        lenge siden sist :)
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      • Freso
        Hej mo :)
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      • Freso
        Tja.
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      • Freso
        There's a Drupal module that's currently giving me quite a headache. *sigh*
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