gioele: it works fine for me on FF3b3 on both Windows and Linux
2008-02-19 05043, 2008
brianfreud
cool :)
2008-02-19 05045, 2008
brianfreud
oh
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gioele
brianfreud: what is that script for?
2008-02-19 05007, 2008
brianfreud
eventually a massive edit finder
2008-02-19 05020, 2008
brianfreud
right now it finds, but nothing else
2008-02-19 05058, 2008
brianfreud
would love to get some testers, so if there's still show-stopper bugs in the UI-redraw, I can squash them before I start to add UI editing elements back in
2008-02-19 05053, 2008
brianfreud
if anyone can think of additional data sources, I'm game as well - right now, it's using FreeBase, Wikipedia, Jamendo, CD Baby, PureVolume, MySpace, IMDb, Ozon.ru (and as soon as I add them back in, Discogs, MusicMoz, Barnes and Noble, and Amazon)
I thought of them, but to be honest, the only thing they have that might really be useful is dates for artists - but their site is a nightmare of code.
2008-02-19 05044, 2008
gioele
magnatune (I've added a few releases)
2008-02-19 05045, 2008
timo-
although the TOS also says "If you operate a Web site and wish to link to the AMG Websites, you may do so provided you agree to cease such link upon request from AMG.", which is bs
2008-02-19 05021, 2008
brianfreud
I was able to work my way down to that node, but it's so difficult to try and actually auto-find an artist with their site, it wasn't worth it.
2008-02-19 05041, 2008
brianfreud
I'm thinking of eventually working on Chapters, SoundtrackInfo, and CastAlbums
2008-02-19 05011, 2008
brianfreud
if I can get the AR-code for Discogs working, that would make importing ARs from CastAlbums much much easier
2008-02-19 05012, 2008
gioele still hopes to see HasMagnatunePage, HasCDBabyPage and HasJamendoPage ARs
2008-02-19 05022, 2008
brianfreud hopes not
2008-02-19 05032, 2008
gioele
I know :)
2008-02-19 05038, 2008
brianfreud
I'm really not a fan of commingled ARs :P
2008-02-19 05000, 2008
brianfreud
did Magnatune's status change? Last I heard we were still waiting on approval, that's why I've ignored them...
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gioele
I should finish (and translate) my always-wip-book on quality of data sources, that would change your opinion on that
2008-02-19 05034, 2008
gioele
brianfreud: dunno, but the magnatune boss was involved in the mb foundation...
2008-02-19 05049, 2008
brianfreud
well, I'm open to being convinced otherwise... I just don't see why, if we have ARs that do the job, we should add new ones that essentially just are various combinations of existing ones.
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nikki_
brianfreud: but people don't link all the relationships that apply
2008-02-19 05031, 2008
brianfreud
true enough - I'm honestly not even sure if we're supposed to... (the CD Baby script could just as easily add the "can be bought for mail order" AR too, but I wasn't sure if we were supposed to have those redundant ARs for the coverart sites)
2008-02-19 05058, 2008
nikki_
plus we've already got the amazon link - I don't wanna know how many relationships would have to be duplicated if we decided that we should use mail order *and* cover art links
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nikki_
and the website already assumes a cdbaby link implies cover art, when I add one as mail order it goes and finds the cover art without me adding a cover art link
2008-02-19 05056, 2008
brianfreud
Well, I think, where we have redundant ARs, a bot could easily add the missing ones. But I'd much rather a bot add missing redundant ARs than continually be adding new ARs for each new site that we can link to for coverart - each new commingled AR like that then needs all the developers of software/users of the data feed to then update their software.
2008-02-19 05012, 2008
brianfreud
Separate ARs, even if redundant, don't have that same negative.
2008-02-19 05018, 2008
brianfreud
I'm already not a huge fan of not only having a commingled Amazon AR, but two Amazon fields to have to deal with :(
2008-02-19 05032, 2008
brianfreud
afk a few
2008-02-19 05009, 2008
nikki_
but you can't assume for amazon that cover art exists
2008-02-19 05034, 2008
ruaok
everyone: what should or new search server be called?
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nikki_
plus there are more editors on the site than developers of software/users of the data feed, and it's also possible to create a parseable file which has some sort of structure which explains what to do with each link
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brianfreud
back - yes, I just think it'd be better to avoid redundant ARs and look for technological solutions (bots) rather than creating a new AR for each new site
2008-02-19 05033, 2008
brianfreud
same reason we have a "community page" AR instead of lots of separate ARs for sites
2008-02-19 05034, 2008
FauxFaux
"... has a Metalica fan-site at.. "
2008-02-19 05046, 2008
gioele
ring in an <img/> tag. Tomorrow the address changes to "http://c.amazon.com/0123-low.jpg". All you have to do is change a line in the server. If you decoupled a release ASIN from its cover art's URL, you had to go through all the stored HasCoverArt ARs and change them manually. Writing a bot to do this will take 10x the effort needed to create a new case in the code that processes ARs
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Kerensky97
Does anybody know how to make flash in firefox (windows) display unicode/kanji in addition to latin?
gioele: but the effort to write / run a bot that says "if RELEASE has AR #foo, add AR #bar", using a table of paired foos and bars, vs the effort each and every time we add a site for all the developers to add support for yet another new ar (YANAR)?
2008-02-19 05008, 2008
FauxFaux
I want to take you to a gay bar.
2008-02-19 05031, 2008
BrianG
GAY BAR
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brianfreud
Kerensky97: looks fine here (windows 2.0.0.12)
2008-02-19 05022, 2008
FauxFaux
Kerensky97: The headline bar looks okay, the site is loading sloooooooowly.
2008-02-19 05050, 2008
BrianG
Kerensky97: jibberjabber here
2008-02-19 05056, 2008
brianfreud
unicode UTF-8 turned on, auto-detect set to universal, with a few chinese, korean, and japanese fonts installed
2008-02-19 05000, 2008
FauxFaux
Oh, the bubbles are screwed here, too.
2008-02-19 05013, 2008
brianfreud
ruaok: I suggest Multivac :D
2008-02-19 05014, 2008
FauxFaux
<C,,,uO,,%,,,,,
2008-02-19 05024, 2008
Kerensky97
That's exactly what I see
2008-02-19 05037, 2008
Kerensky97
I wonder if you have to download the Japanese version of flash to get it to work.
2008-02-19 05006, 2008
nikki_
brianfreud: what about amazon links which don't have cover art?
2008-02-19 05016, 2008
brianfreud
I don't have Japanese flash installed...
2008-02-19 05046, 2008
brianfreud
nikki_: ok, maybe Amazon is a special case. Or may it'd be better to have it split, so we stop always assuming it does have art.
2008-02-19 05008, 2008
Kerensky97
I don't know know if they have a Japanese version. I assume the Japanese adobe site must have a different language.
2008-02-19 05011, 2008
nikki_
but you can't run a bot to add cover art, and people won't go to the trouble of adding links multiple times
2008-02-19 05018, 2008
brianfreud
What about a checkbox when you add a paired AR "this AR is normally associated with the AR you are adding, would you like to add it too?"
2008-02-19 05051, 2008
FauxFaux sets Windows downloading the Japknees language pack.
2008-02-19 05025, 2008
brianfreud
try font2000 + font2001 - between them, it ought to make that work for you
2008-02-19 05033, 2008
nikki_
code2000
2008-02-19 05047, 2008
brianfreud
oops, yeah, that's what I meant :)
2008-02-19 05040, 2008
FauxFaux
Any even remotely modern Windows has a good sprey of fonts installed anyway, at least nough for kanji.
2008-02-19 05055, 2008
FauxFaux
(Sorry, my connection sucks too much atm to typew properly)
2008-02-19 05057, 2008
nikki_ personally doesn't like the server guessing when to apply special behaviour (like when to make an affiliate link for a site)
