ah yes.. i've seen that a lot with firefox 2 on mac.
2008-06-03 15507, 2008
warp
i forgot about the third character in the first syllable.. (there is no third character, but apparantly unicode has some sort of placeholder codepoint for it)
2008-06-03 15526, 2008
ruaok
is FF3 different?
2008-06-03 15500, 2008
ruaok downloads the latest beta
2008-06-03 15509, 2008
warp
ruaok: yes.
2008-06-03 15504, 2008
ruaok
ok, looks less confusing to the untrained eye. :-)
2008-06-03 15559, 2008
warp
indeed, though i'm sure it aided in your understanding of hangul :P
2008-06-03 15519, 2008
ruaok
yes. its fucked up in its own special way. :)
2008-06-03 15533, 2008
ruaok
thanks much for your guidance.
2008-06-03 15540, 2008
warp
np
2008-06-03 15547, 2008
ruaok
now I'm back to the how the hell do we index/score aliases
2008-06-03 15538, 2008
warp goes to work
2008-06-03 15521, 2008
alastairp
hmm
2008-06-03 15538, 2008
alastairp
the "Sony BMG Music entertainment" label says 'file no releases'
2008-06-03 15541, 2008
alastairp
who do I use?
2008-06-03 15529, 2008
yllona
alastairp: that's the parent company
2008-06-03 15535, 2008
yllona
as such, it's listed on CD covers and such, but the label/subsidiary should also be listed
nikki: yes, it is starting to dawn on me that this whole searching stuff is more complicated than I imagined.
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mikemorr
I wonder what adjustments (if any) are made by native speakers of these languages when performing Internet searches? Have they learned from experience with current search technology (on Google etc.) that it helps to add/omit spaces, quotation marks, etc. when searching?
2008-06-03 15537, 2008
mikemorr
In other words, I'm all for improving the search engine, but I wonder if we also can get better results by constructing our search queries more like a native speaker would?
2008-06-03 15538, 2008
nikki
hmm... particles like eun/neun and i/ga are attached to the word, aren't they?
2008-06-03 15503, 2008
nikki
mikemorr: well, we'd need some native speakers :)
2008-06-03 15512, 2008
mikemorr
nikki: +1
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nikki
either way, a native speaker doesn't expect to have to enter the entire name exactly like we have it to find what they want
2008-06-03 15503, 2008
nikki
dunno about other searches, but google's quite good at finding all sorts of variants
2008-06-03 15520, 2008
warp
nikki: er, yes.
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CatCat
doesnt last.fm have jaapnese?
2008-06-03 15553, 2008
CatCat
we could ask what they do?
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Muz
Our search server runs on black magic and is an unknown art to most of us now
great :) Well, I'm curious how you want to do this - at the moment I'm working by taking the stuff from htdocs, writing a controller to parse the data, and then constructing a template, abstracting common stuff if need be
2008-06-03 15557, 2008
xlotlu
so you totally throw away the old templates
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aCiD2
indeed
2008-06-03 15515, 2008
xlotlu
well.. umm... :)
2008-06-03 15518, 2008
xlotlu
ok
2008-06-03 15551, 2008
aCiD2
heh
2008-06-03 15540, 2008
aCiD2
so what I was thinking, if we coordinated work quite tightly and decided on an order of how to tackle this, then I colud write the controllers, and you work on the templates as you get time
2008-06-03 15547, 2008
xlotlu
you auto-generate the templates when you generate the "view"?
2008-06-03 15552, 2008
aCiD2
no
2008-06-03 15520, 2008
aCiD2
you have to hand write the templates, the view is just the bit that gets stuff from the controller to the template, and returns it to the browser (in this case, we don't even write the views)
2008-06-03 15540, 2008
aCiD2
catalyst comes with TTView that does all that stuff for you, so we only need to write controllers and templates atm - no models, no views
2008-06-03 15531, 2008
Muz
Use PHP and Smarrrrrty!
2008-06-03 15533, 2008
Muz hides
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aCiD2
I'll use your mum if don't shush
2008-06-03 15549, 2008
Muz
Hot
2008-06-03 15550, 2008
aCiD2
if you don't*
2008-06-03 15553, 2008
aCiD2
:P
2008-06-03 15524, 2008
xlotlu
use cat and sed :P
2008-06-03 15524, 2008
phatmonkey
use python djangooooo!
2008-06-03 15528, 2008
phatmonkey
*and
2008-06-03 15535, 2008
aCiD2
Django templates have got nothing on Template Toolkit :P
2008-06-03 15543, 2008
aCiD2
Easily the most powerful templating system I've seen
2008-06-03 15548, 2008
aCiD2
Annnnnyway :P
2008-06-03 15551, 2008
xlotlu
phatmonkey: actually django's template system is one of the worse i've ever come across
2008-06-03 15511, 2008
xlotlu
(but django rules so don't flame me) :P
2008-06-03 15515, 2008
phatmonkey
haha
2008-06-03 15517, 2008
aCiD2
xlotlu: have you used TT at all?
2008-06-03 15524, 2008
phatmonkey
it's good - it's just for simple people
2008-06-03 15538, 2008
aCiD2
You might want to check out some of the templates I've written if not, especially the user profile page - that uses quite a lot of TT features
2008-06-03 15557, 2008
xlotlu
aCiD2: i had to edit some view:tt templates a while ago. never coded it though
2008-06-03 15501, 2008
xlotlu
and i don't intend to :)
2008-06-03 15510, 2008
aCiD2
that's fine, you don't need to do that :)
2008-06-03 15556, 2008
phatmonkey
aCiD2: where are they? have you got a repository or something?
