xlotlu: hmm, i don't see what could cause troubles, here - you'd have a mo:MusicalWork for the whole (with two composers), and a number of movements - the different completion would be captrued by a set of events (in a way similar to the Arrangement concept)
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xlotlu
and symphonick. and cooperaa.
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xlotlu
because of the per-track compositions
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yvesr
xlotlu: i started importing terms from BrianFreud schema for musical work (he did an amazing work for that)
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yvesr
in MO, a track and a work are rather different - you have separate entities for works, arrangements, performances, scores, tracks etc.
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yvesr
the idea being that you can always decompose any of these entities
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yvesr
so you can perfectly state that a part of the requiem was composed (or completed) by sußmayr
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yvesr
as you can state that a particular performance used two different completions (eg. Beyer and sußmayr)
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Prodoc
good afternoon
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mikemorr
good morning :)
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Prodoc
is it by any chance a known issue that disc id calculation in picard can result in an incorrect track length for the last track of a disc?
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FauxFaux
Some CDs have copy protection for a couple of seconds at the end, but, iirc, it shows as a seperate track.
just a bit of RDF about the requiem, just to show how that'd be described in mo
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yvesr wonders how hard it would to scrap the CSGStandard page
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gafuuu
yveser adopting something like musicontology seems like it woudl go hand in hand with introducing new entities to mb
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gafuuu
like works/revisions etc.
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gafuuu
and linking tracks as instances of works
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gafuuu
*sorry probably not usting mo's actual terminology
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yvesr
yep, from what i heard abotu the new schema, it looks like the mapping mbz/mo will be much easier then
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gafuuu
is that due to come in any time soon?
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yvesr
hmm, i really don't know
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gafuuu
last i heard, it was a 'who knows when thing'
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gafuuu
but that was probably two years ago
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yvesr
but i guess the people who were at the summit in london should know more about that?
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gafuuu
and i havent' been arounds ince :p
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gafuuu
*since
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Muz
Well, it won't happen overnight in one big go :P
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yvesr
lol :)
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Muz
But afaik, the BBC and luks are making a start on it
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gafuuu
oh right, i forgot BBC got involved
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Muz
The BBC with release related schema changes, and luks with track merging, but I may be wrong
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yvesr
apparently, the two big new things are "work" and "package"
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gafuuu
and there's some last.fm involvement with mb i heard about
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Muz
gafuuu, we only import their data, that's it for now
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Muz
(We = Last.fm)
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gafuuu
their = musicbrainz's :p
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gafuuu
you're with last.fm?
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Muz
Yup, sitting in the office right now
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gafuuu
heh
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MClemo
office == ballpit
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yvesr
Muz: say hello to elias and mark :)
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gafuuu
will things like music-ontology affect last.fm in the near future?
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Muz
I can't honestly say whether I know or not
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gafuuu
heh
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yvesr
gafuuu: i wrote a rdf wrapper around last.fm api, some time ago
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Muz
what I do know is that we are working towards improving our catalogue structure and it appears to be going in the same vague direction as Music-ontology describes
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gafuuu
yvesr what would that do?
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yvesr
but i'd so much like last.fm to provide rdf (or RDFa) at the source :-)
How are you creating these pages, are you build them from a copy of the database once a day, or are these queries built on the fly
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outsidecontext
i like the fact you are exposing the data quality :)
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yvesr
outsidecontext: should be fixed now - sorry about that
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yvesr
outsidecontext: still in the middle of the mapping... it's kind of a tough job, so it takes some time :)
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outsidecontext
that was quick :)
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yvesr
ijabz: i am working on a db dump atm
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ijabz
So out of interest could you do the same thing my extending the relaxng schema, or do you need rdf to do this kind of thing
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yvesr
i do need rdf, of course :)
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yvesr
rdf as in the data-model, not as in a particular syntax for it
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outsidecontext
i think it should be possible with an extended schema, in the end the rdf does nothing more than consolidate different data sources#
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ijabz
Oh , so rdf just links things togther
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yvesr
ijabz: yes, exactly
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CatCat
can you *please* stop writing "mo"
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CatCat
:(
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outsidecontext
lol, sorry mo
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CatCat
thanks
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outsidecontext
name conflict
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yvesr
:-D
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ijabz
novice question:Are 12" singles always marked as E.Ps in Musicbrainz or not
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ijabz
I mean type=E.P
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juhae
A single is a single.
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juhae
%)
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Muz
The release media can indicate what format is was released on
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ijabz
I mean the release type field lets you specify Single, E.P album ... If I have a 7" and a 12" version of a release do I have to put them bothas release type Single if the 12" has nothing on it stating that its actually an E.P
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ijabz
muz:by release media do you mean format it just lets you specify vinyl, CD extera
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Muz
Yeah
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hey all, i wanted to know if anyone had a working libofa on a PPC mac and how they went about it ... is there a guide somewhere? i'd like to generate PUIDs for my music
