like in english there's people who insist it's wrong to do things like end a sentence with a preposition (e.g. "what are looking at?") or split infinitives (e.g. "to willingly do something")
2008-08-30 24329, 2008
xlotlu
is telling people how to properly use apostrophe considered prescriptivism?
2008-08-30 24349, 2008
CatCat
loi "splitting infinitives"
2008-08-30 24354, 2008
nikki
I wouldn't say so, that's more about spelling
2008-08-30 24301, 2008
CatCat agrees
2008-08-30 24311, 2008
Clint
spelling prescriptivism vs. grammar prescriptivism
2008-08-30 24343, 2008
CatCat
languages are ocurringly evolving
2008-08-30 24345, 2008
CatCat
new words
2008-08-30 24358, 2008
Clint
nu spelingz
2008-08-30 24304, 2008
CatCat
no
2008-08-30 24309, 2008
Clint
it's the same goddamn thing
2008-08-30 24317, 2008
xlotlu
omgwtfspelling?
2008-08-30 24322, 2008
srotta
I'd say a healthy dose of prescriptivism is good for you.
2008-08-30 24302, 2008
CatCat
yes. the key word here is "healthy"
2008-08-30 24324, 2008
xlotlu
otherwise lolspeak will be the official language of planet earth by 2200
2008-08-30 24336, 2008
Clint
xlotlu: THAT IS THE NATURAL PROGRESSION YOU MUST RESPECT IT
2008-08-30 24339, 2008
srotta
It doesn't mean everything should be set in stone in perpetuity, but I'm pretty annoyed with the anything goes mentality of some people.
2008-08-30 24307, 2008
srotta
Tha goes for all areas of life, not just language :P
2008-08-30 24333, 2008
nikki
english spelling is rather prescriptive anyway, we could write phonetically but then we'd lose the distinction between homonyms and etymological stuff, nobody just acquires the ability to spell, but just by exposing kids to language they'll acquire all the grammar rules of that particular dialect
2008-08-30 24334, 2008
Clint
especially when they're hypocritical and inconsistent about it?
2008-08-30 24310, 2008
CatCat
hi clint
2008-08-30 24323, 2008
Clint
hi mo
2008-08-30 24348, 2008
CatCat
omg omg second to last dr who of seson 2 is comming up. does that means that next week will have season3?!
2008-08-30 24350, 2008
CatCat
omg
2008-08-30 24348, 2008
nikki
oh and some people insist 'they' as a singular pronoun is completely wrong, but even shakespeare used it
2008-08-30 24329, 2008
CatCat
lol, thats stupid
2008-08-30 24331, 2008
xlotlu
so they is not wrong?
2008-08-30 24338, 2008
CatCat
if *SHAKESPARE* used it
2008-08-30 24351, 2008
Clint
shakespare is a perfectly valid spelling of shakespeare
2008-08-30 24310, 2008
CatCat
å herregud. i forgot a godamn E
2008-08-30 24315, 2008
CatCat
plz shoot me
2008-08-30 24322, 2008
CatCat
ë_ë
2008-08-30 24330, 2008
xlotlu
plz dntshoot CatCat
2008-08-30 24330, 2008
Clint
no, no, it's fine to have a double standard about spelling and grammar
2008-08-30 24308, 2008
CatCat
oh fuck. i didn't MEAN too. thats not doublestandard
2008-08-30 24318, 2008
CatCat
i *Know*
2008-08-30 24320, 2008
CatCat
fuck
2008-08-30 24329, 2008
CatCat
i have soem for mof dyslexia, obviusly
2008-08-30 24332, 2008
CatCat
isnt it obvius
2008-08-30 24338, 2008
CatCat
you're going to fault me for this
2008-08-30 24300, 2008
srotta
And on the other hand, taking Shakespeare as a yardstick... He's been dead for 400 years, I doubt he uses pronouns too much thesee days.
2008-08-30 24321, 2008
Clint
srotta is my hero
2008-08-30 24321, 2008
CatCat
true
2008-08-30 24329, 2008
jrb joined the channel
2008-08-30 24304, 2008
jrb
anyone around to answer a question on entering a disc?
2008-08-30 24305, 2008
srotta
Clint: I get that a lot.
2008-08-30 24327, 2008
CatCat
yea, i get "lol ur spellingz iz lols fail" alot
2008-08-30 24341, 2008
Clint
anyone know how to make picard set tags in uppercase?
2008-08-30 24352, 2008
CatCat
....
2008-08-30 24353, 2008
CatCat
no
2008-08-30 24307, 2008
xlotlu
$upper()?
2008-08-30 24310, 2008
CatCat
but obviously you are not asking me
2008-08-30 24313, 2008
CatCat
i am fail
2008-08-30 24317, 2008
CatCat
obviously
2008-08-30 24323, 2008
CatCat
obviously
2008-08-30 24324, 2008
CatCat
obviously
2008-08-30 24335, 2008
Clint
xlotlu: what?
2008-08-30 24347, 2008
CatCat
well?
2008-08-30 24347, 2008
xlotlu
Clint: that
2008-08-30 24303, 2008
Clint
xlotlu: you want me to type $upper() into picard?
2008-08-30 24324, 2008
xlotlu
Clint: you want you to type $upper() into picard
2008-08-30 24339, 2008
Clint
xlotlu: and how do i feel about $upper() into picard?
2008-08-30 24300, 2008
nikki
srotta: the argument is usually something along the lines of "youngsters these days, they don't know anything..." when in fact people have been using 'they' as a singular pronoun for centuries
2008-08-30 24305, 2008
xlotlu
Clint: i think you don't feel good about it
2008-08-30 24314, 2008
CatCat embraces nikki
2008-08-30 24323, 2008
xlotlu
nikki: i need an example of that
2008-08-30 24329, 2008
CatCat
nikki!!!!!!!!
2008-08-30 24345, 2008
Clint
they have
2008-08-30 24352, 2008
Clint
there is also evidence of people misspelling things for centuries
2008-08-30 24357, 2008
xlotlu
i can't umm.. visualise how they is done
2008-08-30 24358, 2008
nikki
you'll just have to wait, my stomach is more important than you lot :P
2008-08-30 24308, 2008
CatCat
obviously i am ignored as usual
2008-08-30 24319, 2008
xlotlu hugs CatCat
2008-08-30 24326, 2008
CatCat
nikki :( feel better?
2008-08-30 24328, 2008
nikki
Clint: like I said, spelling is something you have to learn, you don't learn grammar (except for prescriptivist rules)
2008-08-30 24329, 2008
CatCat
hmm xlotlu
2008-08-30 24340, 2008
nikki goes to cook stuff
2008-08-30 24342, 2008
xlotlu
now don't go all gay on me
2008-08-30 24356, 2008
Clint
nikki: so how does that make one a good thing and one a bad thing?
2008-08-30 24312, 2008
xlotlu
Clint: what do you want to uppercase?
2008-08-30 24317, 2008
srotta
I don't actually get the argument about grammar / spelling anyway. Yeah, there's a difference between spoken and written language, true, but the system works the same way.
2008-08-30 24300, 2008
jrb
how do I add a new artist when one with the same name (though different person) already exists?
2008-08-30 24312, 2008
srotta
"Exposing" kids by speaking to them will introduce them to spoken language, exposing them by teaching them to read will result in them learning about written word.
2008-08-30 24337, 2008
luks
jrb: just like any other artist, but you will be asked to enter a disambiguation comment
2008-08-30 24308, 2008
srotta
Doing both is probably preferred, and doing it so that people have at least somewhat common understanding of the language is all the better.
2008-08-30 24336, 2008
jrb
oh, okay.
2008-08-30 24316, 2008
Clint
xlotlu: all the tag names; it's probably a mutagen issue
2008-08-30 24331, 2008
jrb
Also, if I'm trying to enter an audio book with no chapters or sections -- just tracks every 3 min, should I go with "Track 01" for each track?
