the build process isn't really nailed down yet. we're still not sure what exactly the goal of the build process it
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ruaok
is
2008-09-24 26835, 2008
VxJasonxV
to produce a dmg, exe, tar.bz2, automatically? :) (heh)
2008-09-24 26851, 2008
ruaok
to produce the app bundle.
2008-09-24 26803, 2008
ruaok
once we get one that works, we can codify it into a makefile.
2008-09-24 26806, 2008
ruaok
inclusive of making the dmg
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VxJasonxV
I ask only because I filed a bug and it was closed due to (1) the bug having already ben fixed in a newer version and (2) the version being out of date as a result
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LotR
yay, database imported
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FauxFaux
Yay.
2008-09-24 26853, 2008
ruaok
wow. paypal contacted me because of my blog post from yesterday.
2008-09-24 26807, 2008
ruaok
I guess complaining publicly is one way of finally getting some attention.
I'll probably end up implementing all three of them. (pp, amazon and google)
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Muzzz
O O O O OVERKILL?
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warp
indeed.
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warp
oh well, i do hope paypal offers you a proper solution.
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Muzzz
It is kind of reassuring that they saw that blog post and reacted
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ruaok
well, I keep getting feedback like: "I won't donate because you use X. Use Y and you get my money."
2008-09-24 26827, 2008
ruaok
the only way to get all the money is to support them all.
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LotR
why is that overkill? the more ways people can donate the more chance they will actually do so, no?
2008-09-24 26838, 2008
ruaok is with LotR
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Muzzz
You can never please them all, and is it really worth the time spent maintaining and setting up all of them for what they return?
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warp
ruaok: haha, yeah. some of those posts are exaggerated I believe. but yes, if you want all the money ...
2008-09-24 26819, 2008
ruaok
I mainly want the 200/per day $.01 donations from china to stop.
2008-09-24 26827, 2008
ruaok
paypal spams my account more than ANYONE else.
2008-09-24 26832, 2008
ruaok
its really freaking lame.
2008-09-24 26838, 2008
Muzzz
:/
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LotR
Muzzz: you have to substract the time to deal with those "I would, but" emails, so it might end up positively influencing the time spent on donations :)
2008-09-24 26828, 2008
LotR
talking of donations/subscriptions.. I wonder what the status of the last.fm new subscription type is (esp. in .nl)
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Muzzz
Haahah
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Muzzz
Hahah
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Muzzz
Hah
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Muzzz
Oh.
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Muzzz
Ha.
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LotR
hehe
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LotR was afraid of that
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LotR
should I worry about failed insert/updates to album_amazon_asin during admin/slave.sh?
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ruaok
eh?
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ruaok
slave.sh?
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Muzzz
admin/cron/slave.sh?
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ruaok
what type of server are you running?
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Muzzz
Loading replication packets I assume
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LotR
Muzzz: right
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LotR
ruaok: just the DB
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ruaok
RT_STANDALONE or RT_SLAVE ?
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LotR
I set it to RT_SLAVE
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ruaok
did you modify any of the data?
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ruaok
you're not supposed to modify data on a slave server.
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LotR
I didn't
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Muzzz
Did you set it to RT_SLAVE before or after running InitDB.pl for the first time?
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ruaok
paste an error
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ruaok
which version of DBD::Pg did you install?
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LotR
Muzzz: after
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Muzzz
Hmmm
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Muzzz
I've often had issues when I did that
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LotR
DBD::Pg::st execute failed: ERROR: insert or update on table "album_amazon_asin" violates foreign key constraint "album_amazon_asin_fk_album"
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Muzzz
Ended up setting it to RT_SLAVE first then importing the DB as it doesn't create FLs and stuff
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Muzzz
*FKs
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Muzzz
Heh.
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LotR
looks like the FKs got created :)
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ruaok
yep.
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ruaok
was it RT_SLAVE when you imported?
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LotR
no.
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Rondom has quit
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ruaok
cd admin/sql
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ruaok
../psql READWRITE < DropTriggers.sql
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ruaok
../psql READWRITE < DropFKs.sql
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ruaok
and try again.
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ruaok
DropFKConstraints, I think.
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LotR
is this bad?:
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LotR
PendingData still contains data (rows=7639)! at /home/mbuser/foo/admin/replication/ProcessReplicationChanges line 214.
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ruaok
../psql READWRITE
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ruaok
delete from "Pending";
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ruaok
delete from "PendingData";
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ruaok
your replication might be borked...
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ruaok
might need to be '"Pending"'
2008-09-24 26837, 2008
LotR
works with just ""
2008-09-24 26814, 2008
LotR
ok, guess I'll just do the import again just to be sure everything is correct
2008-09-24 26832, 2008
ruaok
try the replication again.
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ruaok
it may work.
2008-09-24 26842, 2008
ruaok
chances are still good.
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LotR
yeah, it was working ok, but is there no chance of it having lost data from the first packet?
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ruaok
it shoudn't the transaction failed.
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ruaok
and the tables cleared.
2008-09-24 26838, 2008
ruaok
it should try again
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aCiD2 returns
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LotR
hmm. slave .log gives a "summary of changes applied" before that pendingdata error
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LotR
and then when I restarted cron/slave.sh, it went on to the next packet
2008-09-24 26831, 2008
LotR
heh, screw it. doing the import again. it'll give that CPU something real to do for a change :)
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nikki
hah
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nikki
poor cpu
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aCiD2
hamster cpu
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ruaok
that do not originate on your website. "
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ruaok
either disallow credit card payments or deal with chinese hackers.
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ruaok
those are my options.
2008-09-24 26809, 2008
ruaok
fuck you paypal!
2008-09-24 26827, 2008
Muzzz
Disallow credit card payments, and set up one other provider which does allow credit cards/// like Google?
2008-09-24 26836, 2008
Muzzz
s/\/\./g
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Muzzz
There's a missing / in there
2008-09-24 26844, 2008
Muzzz
Bah
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ruaok
well, google requires a google account.
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ruaok
at least everyone in the world (so it seems) has one of those.
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warp has paid with google checkout once.
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ruaok
my experiences with google checkout were vastly better than with paypal.
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nikki has never used google checkout
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FauxFaux
Yeah, I find google checkout less bad than paypal.
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FauxFaux
They don't assign ownership of your credit card, for example.
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aCiD2
lol, sister just batted a spider web out of the way, hit herself in the face, and now has a nosebleed
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aCiD2
xD
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ruaok
speshul
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aCiD2
she is
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LotR
and they say spiders aren't dangerous. hah!
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aCiD2
I've used google checkout a few times, never had any problems, in fact found it very transparent :)
2008-09-24 26830, 2008
LotR
I've never had any problems with paypal either
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LotR
(both times I used it :)
2008-09-24 26830, 2008
aCiD2
true that
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aCiD2
just the initial setup is hell
2008-09-24 26846, 2008
ruaok
warp: do you know if amazon payments allows CC payments without creating a login?
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aCiD2
(to receive money, I don't think you have to do it to send)
2008-09-24 26846, 2008
LotR
argh. my external disk finally died completely :(
2008-09-24 26853, 2008
Senilix
won't any provider that accepts CC payments without creating a login have the same problem with those hackers?
2008-09-24 26827, 2008
ruaok
I think they can be mitigated to make the hacker's lives more difficult.
2008-09-24 26837, 2008
ruaok
for instance, right now they don't even hit our web site at all.
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ruaok
we could force them to create shopping carts and submit those to google checkout.
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ruaok
that gives us more power to check the donations before sending them on.
2008-09-24 26837, 2008
ruaok
like, if you're making a donation we can check to see if you have a valid editor name.
2008-09-24 26847, 2008
ruaok
all of these make their lives more difficult.
2008-09-24 26801, 2008
ruaok
so they will find some other place to scam off of.
2008-09-24 26810, 2008
ruaok
we're just making it too easy for them right now.
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VxJasonxV
while they don't accept paypal, I know that easynews is another very popular target for testing credit cards
2008-09-24 26800, 2008
VxJasonxV
that was a pretty worthless comment, but hey, I made it :P
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ruaok wondered about that
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VxJasonxV
I'm pretty good at making loosely related comments :)
