in France we don't even have electric outlets in most trains
2008-03-14 07411, 2008
nikkitrain
hmm...
2008-03-14 07417, 2008
nikkitrain
I don't see many on ours
2008-03-14 07423, 2008
nikkitrain
but this is a cross-country train
2008-03-14 07429, 2008
pankkake
one is better than none :)
2008-03-14 07403, 2008
pankkake
i frequently do 6 hours of train
2008-03-14 07410, 2008
nikkitrain
ouch
2008-03-14 07416, 2008
nikkitrain
from where to where? :o
2008-03-14 07439, 2008
warp was very happy with having 220v under his seat in the ICE from Utrecht -> Frankfurt.
2008-03-14 07420, 2008
warp
noticed wifi too, but it wasn't free. (didn't need internet anyway).
2008-03-14 07420, 2008
canidae
ooh, an electric chair
2008-03-14 07438, 2008
nikkitrain
yeah, these trains used to have wifi that you had to pay for
2008-03-14 07458, 2008
warp
nikkitrain: where are you traveling to/from?
2008-03-14 07419, 2008
nikkitrain
london to scunthorpe
2008-03-14 07423, 2008
nikkitrain
going to see my family
2008-03-14 07436, 2008
warp
aah, nice.
2008-03-14 07441, 2008
nikkitrain
not really :/
2008-03-14 07442, 2008
warp
(assuming you have a nice family)
2008-03-14 07446, 2008
warp
oh :(
2008-03-14 07446, 2008
canidae
that's interesting, your "isp" is swedish
2008-03-14 07457, 2008
nikkitrain
isp?
2008-03-14 07401, 2008
nikkitrain
ohh
2008-03-14 07415, 2008
nikkitrain
I read it as a syllable, like lisp
2008-03-14 07432, 2008
canidae
unless you've ssh'ed to some swedish box or something
2008-03-14 07436, 2008
nikkitrain
nope
2008-03-14 07451, 2008
nikkitrain
I've noticed the isp shows up as swedish when I connect from my phone too
2008-03-14 07403, 2008
warp
weird!
2008-03-14 07436, 2008
spike has quit
2008-03-14 07454, 2008
_spike joined the channel
2008-03-14 07424, 2008
pankkake
from paris to toulouse (france->france)
2008-03-14 07412, 2008
petros
Sweden is prolly taking over the world by digital subterfuge. Can't trust those ABBA-loving bastards, I tell ya.
2008-03-14 07453, 2008
canidae
sweden is really good on net connections
2008-03-14 07409, 2008
canidae
there are certain things i'd like norway to learn from sweden, this country seems to be going downhill these days
2008-03-14 07431, 2008
nikkitrain
hey, would you join the eu if it were up to you?
2008-03-14 07440, 2008
canidae
me? no, not really, but i'd probably vote yes
2008-03-14 07421, 2008
warp
i'd probably vote no.
2008-03-14 07416, 2008
warp
then again, our dutch government would also have been crap entirely on its own... so it doesn't matter all that much.
2008-03-14 07422, 2008
nikkitrain
I'm always curious how other people feel about the eu, there's so many anti-eu people here in the uk
2008-03-14 07433, 2008
nikkitrain
but I just like the fact that I can leave the uk later on :P
2008-03-14 07459, 2008
warp
nikkitrain: there are certainly benefits, and it's hard for me to imagine how .nl would be without the EU.
2008-03-14 07402, 2008
warp
but i also like certain things about .nl, which are somewhat at risk because of the EU.
2008-03-14 07411, 2008
nikkitrain
oh?
2008-03-14 07439, 2008
warp
nikkitrain: even though i don't do any drugs, i like that marijuana is almost legal here in .nl. most other EU countries, especially france aren't too happy about that :)
2008-03-14 07432, 2008
nikkitrain
ahh
2008-03-14 07406, 2008
canidae
laws around drugs are screwed in every aspect
2008-03-14 07408, 2008
warp
a benefit of EU: frisian is taught better in schools now than when I was in high-school, because of EU laws which protect minority languages, probably some money to protect/stimulate their use involved too.
2008-03-14 07418, 2008
canidae
in norway, alcohol, nicotine and coffeine is legal
2008-03-14 07454, 2008
canidae
lsd, psilocybin, marijuana are illegal
2008-03-14 07424, 2008
canidae
ironically enough, _nobody_ has died from lsd overdose, it's not physically addictive and it's not considered a "hard drug" unlike alcohol
2008-03-14 07402, 2008
canidae
the laws around drugs are based on tradition, not facts
2008-03-14 07438, 2008
canidae
alcohol was accepted in christianity, so it's legal. it's impossible to make it illegal now, given that ~everyone use it
2008-03-14 07441, 2008
nikkitrain
I saw a documentary in college which was arguments for and against making more drugs legal, they said if someone hadn't discovered alcohol until now, there's no way it would be legal
2008-03-14 07454, 2008
canidae
ofcourse not
2008-03-14 07432, 2008
canidae
so, what now? it's illogical that alcohol is legal, while softer drugs are illegal. making alcohol illegal won't work.
2008-03-14 07441, 2008
nikkitrain
alcohol is way too easy to make yourself anyway
2008-03-14 07400, 2008
canidae
well, psilocybin you can find in the nature all over the world :p
2008-03-14 07410, 2008
canidae
you don't even have to "make" it, you "pick it"
2008-03-14 07422, 2008
canidae
i'm for making drugs legal, given that the drug's effects only affects the user. it's not the goverments task to protect me from myself
2008-03-14 07410, 2008
nikkitrain
possessing drugs, I agree
2008-03-14 07436, 2008
nikkitrain
not sure I agree with people selling them
2008-03-14 07445, 2008
canidae
(since this is logged and people might use it against me, i've not broken any norwegian laws when it comes to drugs)
2008-03-14 07452, 2008
canidae
oh, wait... i once "smuggled" a bottle of tequila from denmark when i was 18 or 19... i'm not sure if it was illegal, you can buy tequila legally in denmark when you're 18 (iirc), and i didn't exceed the tax limit when i brought it to norway, although i'm unsure if it's illegal for someone 18 to possess booze (or if it's only selling booze to someone under 20, or consuming it)
2008-03-14 07420, 2008
nikkitrain
hmm...
2008-03-14 07430, 2008
nikkitrain
some people here want to raise the age limit for alcohol
2008-03-14 07437, 2008
nikkitrain
but I don't think that would work
2008-03-14 07454, 2008
nikkitrain
it just makes it even more tempting for all those rebellious teenagers
2008-03-14 07404, 2008
pankkake
it never works
2008-03-14 07413, 2008
pankkake
yet they try again, and again
2008-03-14 07434, 2008
pankkake
with "drugs", tobacco, alcohol, same laws, different times, same failures
2008-03-14 07437, 2008
nikkitrain
and they all have friends who are like 25 anyway who'll buy alcohol for them
2008-03-14 07438, 2008
pankkake
this is depressing
2008-03-14 07458, 2008
pankkake
people that will sell bad alcohol for a bad price
2008-03-14 07428, 2008
Shepard` joined the channel
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canidae
yeh, that's another aspect; when you make it illegal people will still find ways to obtain it, and then with questionable quality
2008-03-14 07419, 2008
Shepard has quit
2008-03-14 07420, 2008
Shepard`
Shepard` is now known as Shepard
2008-03-14 07453, 2008
nikkitrain needs to change trains soon and will be back later
