CatCat: the same could be said for jefferson airplane/starship
2008-03-26 08654, 2008
CatCat
then use the one they're changing into?
2008-03-26 08606, 2008
pbryan
It matters not, in my opinion.
2008-03-26 08621, 2008
CatCat
Yllona: yes but here they actually *did* change their name :)
2008-03-26 08621, 2008
drsaunde
but they never actually changed their same...sure i'd agree with a new entry if the new name was Panic at the Slaughterhouse, or Party at the Disco
2008-03-26 08625, 2008
CatCat
also, lol
2008-03-26 08627, 2008
CatCat
Now grooving to: Metallica ~ Enter Sandman (7:39) (from S&M (disc 2)) (1999)
2008-03-26 08631, 2008
CatCat
again, i notice what im playing
2008-03-26 08644, 2008
CatCat
drsaunde: i think you hit it right on
2008-03-26 08645, 2008
nikki_ yawns
2008-03-26 08649, 2008
CatCat
hi nikki <3
2008-03-26 08655, 2008
Kerensky97
"Sorry guys, your name change doesn't count on MusicBrainz because you didn't change enough characters."
2008-03-26 08607, 2008
CatCat
come on Kerensky97
2008-03-26 08625, 2008
nikki_
hei mo
2008-03-26 08628, 2008
pbryan
John Mellencamp covers Johnny Cougar's work, John "Cougar" Mellencamp's work and John Mellencamp's work.
2008-03-26 08631, 2008
CatCat
noone says they cant have their new name
2008-03-26 08637, 2008
drsaunde
well it counts for the fact we'll list the new name, but the group really needs to understand the diff between changing a NAME and changing PUNCTUATION
2008-03-26 08646, 2008
CatCat nods
2008-03-26 08650, 2008
nikki_
oh this again...
2008-03-26 08651, 2008
pbryan
drsaunde: The group doesn't need to understand this.
2008-03-26 08654, 2008
nikki_
nikki_ is now known as nikki
2008-03-26 08606, 2008
CatCat
pbryan: you make it sound liek differnt people/artistpersonalities
2008-03-26 08616, 2008
drsaunde
i think they do if they are issueing a press release to announce said information
2008-03-26 08622, 2008
CatCat
:)
2008-03-26 08639, 2008
pbryan
CatCat: I'm just trying to use precedent within MB as an argument for not keeping P!ATD and PATD separated.
2008-03-26 08652, 2008
Kerensky97
A name is a name, no matter what it is. What about names that are nothing but punctuation?
2008-03-26 08659, 2008
CatCat
uh whait, we're agreeing now?
2008-03-26 08601, 2008
CatCat confused
2008-03-26 08606, 2008
pbryan
CatCat: we agreed from the start.
2008-03-26 08612, 2008
CatCat
ok..
2008-03-26 08612, 2008
copper
lies
2008-03-26 08616, 2008
CatCat
:s
2008-03-26 08619, 2008
copper
people don't agree in the internets
2008-03-26 08626, 2008
pbryan
You said, "uh, they shouldn't" and I responded: "exactly!"
2008-03-26 08635, 2008
pbryan
This InterWeb is a strange beast.
2008-03-26 08607, 2008
CatCat
also there are no men on rthe interbutt, thewre are only geekergirls pretendign to be old pervy men and old women pretendign t obe geeky 16 yr old boys, and yaoi fangirls
2008-03-26 08612, 2008
FauxFaux
<Dilbert> EXACTLY!
2008-03-26 08621, 2008
CatCat
pbryan: oh, i didnt see that
2008-03-26 08623, 2008
pbryan
:)
2008-03-26 08628, 2008
Kerensky97
Mark my words, we're going to be people try to change this back, or new entries under the old name after this.
Kerensky97: Hopefully the MB data model expands to hold all of the variants of an artist's name.
2008-03-26 08610, 2008
CatCat
i dotn care rats about this mellencampy champ
2008-03-26 08658, 2008
CatCat
drsaunde: do they make news posts interviews abotu it?
2008-03-26 08659, 2008
Kerensky97
So instead of fixing MusicBrainz we're going to merge and lose the existing info we have.
2008-03-26 08605, 2008
drsaunde wonders about the person who won the Pink House so long ago
2008-03-26 08616, 2008
CatCat
you mean P!nk?
2008-03-26 08628, 2008
CatCat groans thinking abotu that silly nin whatever
2008-03-26 08646, 2008
CatCat also knows we'd be havign this issue if there exsisted a reverse B
2008-03-26 08655, 2008
CatCat
*on ABBA*
2008-03-26 08656, 2008
CatCat
hmm
2008-03-26 08659, 2008
CatCat
adba
2008-03-26 08602, 2008
CatCat
lol
2008-03-26 08614, 2008
pbryan
P!nk, get her name right guys.
2008-03-26 08628, 2008
Kerensky97
Yeah, the punctuation is different!
2008-03-26 08630, 2008
CatCat
i dont think thats her name thoguh
2008-03-26 08632, 2008
drsaunde
CatCat: John Cougar (at the time) had an album called Pink Houses, and I think this was the first big MTV contest where someone won a Pink House
2008-03-26 08638, 2008
pbryan
I don't even know how to pronounce that spelling of her name.
2008-03-26 08641, 2008
Kerensky97
besides it's an upside down i
2008-03-26 08659, 2008
CatCat
drsaunde: mtv has a contest where peopel win houses?
2008-03-26 08610, 2008
CatCat
its Pink not P!nk
2008-03-26 08610, 2008
pbryan
Kerensky97: I happen to disagree with the spelling of Pink's name in MB>
2008-03-26 08623, 2008
pbryan
It's P!nk in MB.
2008-03-26 08656, 2008
drsaunde
CatCat: This was 1983 (possibly 1984)
2008-03-26 08658, 2008
FauxFaux
Should be spelled "Pants" lulz
2008-03-26 08603, 2008
CatCat
P§nk is liek nin's reverse n, and sillyness like [enter example here]
2008-03-26 08604, 2008
Kerensky97
How about when people argue that musicbrainz should use the unicode IV instead of I V for roman numerals?
2008-03-26 08618, 2008
pbryan
Whenever I try to pronounce "P!nk", I get saliva all over my LCD screen.
2008-03-26 08626, 2008
FauxFaux
PBANKink.
2008-03-26 08629, 2008
CatCat
Kerensky97: the peopel woh argue that dotn know the styleguidelines
2008-03-26 08630, 2008
FauxFaux
*bang*
2008-03-26 08634, 2008
CatCat
sillyfaux
2008-03-26 08642, 2008
pbryan
pee-bang-ink
2008-03-26 08644, 2008
FauxFaux
FatCat.
2008-03-26 08649, 2008
CatCat
o_O
2008-03-26 08652, 2008
Kerensky97
Catcat: the vote won because of the styleguidelines
2008-03-26 08655, 2008
CatCat
.. take that back :(
2008-03-26 08609, 2008
FauxFaux
Artist intent makes me sad. So very sad.
2008-03-26 08612, 2008
Kerensky97
"artist intent"
2008-03-26 08618, 2008
CatCat
then they are following the *wrong* styleguidelines
2008-03-26 08620, 2008
CatCat
seriously
2008-03-26 08626, 2008
pbryan
Those damn artists.
2008-03-26 08639, 2008
pbryan
How dare they produce confusing metadata.
2008-03-26 08640, 2008
Kerensky97
"Artist Intent" rules all sometimes, but not with P!atD
2008-03-26 08602, 2008
FauxFaux
PANIC!
2008-03-26 08608, 2008
drsaunde
there should be no absolute rules are far as these listing artists names together or not... should always be on a case-by-case basis as there are so many different types of corner cases
2008-03-26 08609, 2008
FauxFaux
pbryan: /Exactly/.
2008-03-26 08609, 2008
pbryan
"Don't Panic!"
2008-03-26 08610, 2008
CatCat
herreguda! NOONE is saying they cant change theri name into panic ant the not bang disco!
2008-03-26 08622, 2008
CatCat
drsaunde: ding
2008-03-26 08623, 2008
nikki
but the artist said their intent is to not have an exclamation mark...
2008-03-26 08626, 2008
nikki
did they not?
2008-03-26 08629, 2008
CatCat
yes
2008-03-26 08632, 2008
FauxFaux attempts to play "ППК" - "ResuRection (Wellenrausch remix)" from "ResuRection" [2002], but can't find it. ¬_¬
2008-03-26 08636, 2008
CatCat
so why not change/erge wtf ever that?
2008-03-26 08640, 2008
FauxFaux
(tagging with file-names based on sort order ftw)
2008-03-26 08608, 2008
pbryan
PAПIC!
2008-03-26 08619, 2008
FauxFaux
pbryan: That's a P, dufus. :p
2008-03-26 08625, 2008
CatCat
they said they *changed* whateve, right? they didtn say "we are making a NEW band now, caleld PATD, WITOUTH the bang"
2008-03-26 08634, 2008
pbryan
:)
2008-03-26 08638, 2008
CatCat
PI-Nk?
2008-03-26 08601, 2008
Kerensky97
Jefferson Airplane "changed" to Jefferson Starship
2008-03-26 08607, 2008
pbryan
Yes.
2008-03-26 08615, 2008
Kerensky97
But its alpha numeric so it doesn't count
2008-03-26 08621, 2008
CatCat
yes, and space *merged* into uriah heep
2008-03-26 08625, 2008
pbryan
It's substantially different.
2008-03-26 08632, 2008
CatCat
wtf ever
2008-03-26 08651, 2008
CatCat
MB just cant show these complicated artist dohickies. YET, whien whien whine
2008-03-26 08603, 2008
pbryan
CatCat: lol
2008-03-26 08609, 2008
CatCat
isntead of arguing, we can just get over it and wait until it does work
2008-03-26 08617, 2008
pbryan waits patiently.
2008-03-26 08620, 2008
FauxFaux
(You know, even after all this time spent with you crazy people, I still haven't heard anything by urinal heap)
2008-03-26 08621, 2008
CatCat
liek everything else
2008-03-26 08624, 2008
aCiD2
and make sure we have bug reports so the devs know*
2008-03-26 08630, 2008
CatCat
liek labels, AR's languages
2008-03-26 08633, 2008
Kerensky97
I think we should fix MB instead of changing data.
2008-03-26 08648, 2008
pbryan
Most editors are horrible Perl programmers.
2008-03-26 08654, 2008
drsaunde
Jefferson Airplane didn't CHANGE to Jefferson Starship, only 2 members (Kantner and Slick) remained with a whole different band hence the new name, but they wanted to trade (read: sell records because of) on the old name to help the new group
2008-03-26 08655, 2008
CatCat
i think i shoudl leave and shower befeor i start beign a trolly wanker
2008-03-26 08606, 2008
nikki
most programmers are horrible perl programmers :P
2008-03-26 08616, 2008
pbryan
lol I resemble that.
2008-03-26 08619, 2008
CatCat bows to drsaunde
2008-03-26 08624, 2008
Kerensky97
Sorry, I'll go back to the Rhapsody of Fire example. They didn't change it all.
2008-03-26 08633, 2008
CatCat
but seriousyl.. ¬_¬ not liking queen ¬_¬
2008-03-26 08643, 2008
pbryan
CatCat: seriously?
2008-03-26 08647, 2008
drsaunde
well...on that case I would probably support a merge
2008-03-26 08649, 2008
pbryan
Bohemian Rhapsody?
2008-03-26 08650, 2008
CatCat
merge your godamn rapsody on fire whatever. i dotn care
2008-03-26 08659, 2008
JoanW joined the channel
2008-03-26 08604, 2008
nikki
hey joan!
2008-03-26 08609, 2008
CatCat
hi joazasn
2008-03-26 08611, 2008
CatCat
joan
2008-03-26 08614, 2008
pbryan
JoanW: feeling better?
2008-03-26 08618, 2008
JoanW
hi nikki and mo
2008-03-26 08624, 2008
CatCat grumbles.. *great* now ill be even more procrastinated
2008-03-26 08626, 2008
JoanW
a bit better than yesterday
2008-03-26 08637, 2008
CatCat
its all Kerensky's fault :(
2008-03-26 08645, 2008
Kerensky97
:P
2008-03-26 08603, 2008
JoanW
strange thing - father-in-=law was
2008-03-26 08616, 2008
CatCat
huh..
2008-03-26 08625, 2008
CatCat
random thing israndom
2008-03-26 08631, 2008
CatCat
(my music player)
2008-03-26 08639, 2008
JoanW
strange thing - father in law was taken into hospital whilst I was talking to you all night -= same thing as I have had, but he is 80 years old so is much worse
2008-03-26 08651, 2008
nikki
aww :(
2008-03-26 08653, 2008
CatCat
dorry to do this toyou joan (its awesome to have you here) but i need to vacuume and shower
