check the warranty on the drives. seagate gives 5 years. That's my benchmark.
2008-03-02 06208, 2008
ruaok
WD doesnt
2008-03-02 06216, 2008
cooperaa
WD does 1 now don't they?
2008-03-02 06222, 2008
ruaok
yep.
2008-03-02 06230, 2008
ruaok
WD drives fail at day 366
2008-03-02 06233, 2008
yllona
ruaok: let me check on my WD, i thought it was at least 3 years
2008-03-02 06253, 2008
BrianFreudf
seagte gives 5 years, when they bother to actually send the drives back
2008-03-02 06206, 2008
BrianFreudf
still waiting on a 300 and 400 to come back 6 months later...
2008-03-02 06221, 2008
yllona
ruaok: i've never had a "my book" fail, in 5-6 years
2008-03-02 06222, 2008
ruaok
:-(
2008-03-02 06243, 2008
ruaok
all of my WD drives have failed.
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
ruaok
that's why I stopped buying them. them and maxtor
2008-03-02 06254, 2008
cooperaa
gah, how do I know if my drive is still under warranty? can the manufacturer tell?
2008-03-02 06210, 2008
ruaok
go to their site and look for warranty info.
2008-03-02 06213, 2008
cooperaa
k
2008-03-02 06213, 2008
ruaok
or service info
2008-03-02 06219, 2008
yllona
cooperaa: yes, if you registered it. they can tell from the serial number
2008-03-02 06221, 2008
cooperaa
they have a warranty check
2008-03-02 06224, 2008
ruaok
they have you give the serial no.
2008-03-02 06245, 2008
ruaok has never regstered a drive and always gotten warranty service
2008-03-02 06246, 2008
BrianFreudf
and in our area, buffalo does most repair/replacements, so you're pretty close
2008-03-02 06211, 2008
BrianFreudf
most these days date from mfr date, not registration date - no need to register to qualify
2008-03-02 06222, 2008
cooperaa
oh! my drive is covered!
2008-03-02 06223, 2008
yllona
that's what i thought WD "my book" warranty is 3 years
2008-03-02 06231, 2008
cooperaa
and apparently my option is "upgrade"
2008-03-02 06232, 2008
BrianFreudf used to send purchased drives back for RMA all the time when I did used hw
2008-03-02 06244, 2008
yllona
BrianFreudf: i prefer "register" date fro my personal stuff as i often buying retail, and who knows how long the item sat in warehouse
2008-03-02 06237, 2008
BrianFreudf
yllona, quite, but I can tell you from having been told directly by the folks I used to deal with at Maxtor, Seagate, and WD, they count startying at mfr date, registering doesn't restart the clock
2008-03-02 06254, 2008
yllona
i believe you :)
2008-03-02 06217, 2008
BrianFreudf
it is good, though, for whatever other benefits they might give ya :)
2008-03-02 06225, 2008
yllona
the only time i've had to RMA is on corporate duty, and that's a whole 'nother ball of wax
2008-03-02 06201, 2008
yllona
at home, i register everything, and have never had a problem.
2008-03-02 06212, 2008
BrianFreudf
yeah, gets messy when you have to deal with the special packing boxes to RMA dozen or more drives all at once :P
2008-03-02 06245, 2008
yllona
most time apple just ships me whatever i need, little or no questions asked
2008-03-02 06221, 2008
BrianFreudf
yeah, apple's good. worst I found tended to be the old deathstar RMA process
2008-03-02 06250, 2008
cooperaa
yllona: have I told you about my iPod nightmare?
2008-03-02 06257, 2008
cooperaa
probably not...
2008-03-02 06215, 2008
cooperaa
the drive in my iPod died, starting clicking
2008-03-02 06242, 2008
cooperaa
it was just a month away from the warranty expiring so I sent it back to apple
2008-03-02 06246, 2008
cooperaa
and they shipped me a new one
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
cooperaa
and I waited, and waited, and waited
2008-03-02 06204, 2008
cooperaa
and eventually, it turns out that it went missing en route
2008-03-02 06217, 2008
cooperaa
so I call apple and I'm like "I'd like an iPod please"
2008-03-02 06257, 2008
cooperaa
and the "higher-up" who I had been transferred to told me it was "not their responsibility to compensate me because my ipod was lost via transit"
2008-03-02 06214, 2008
cooperaa
and I almost puked when I heard her say that - I was shocked
2008-03-02 06211, 2008
cooperaa
luckily it was a misunderstanding and she thought I wanted something more than what they were already giving me (unbeknownst to me, they were sending me a brand new 80gb ipod instead of a refurbished 60gb ipod)
2008-03-02 06208, 2008
yllona
cooperaa: i typically get upgrades as well :)
2008-03-02 06227, 2008
cooperaa
WD upgrades?
2008-03-02 06232, 2008
yllona
my 2nd gen 10GB is still working like a champ
2008-03-02 06236, 2008
cooperaa
heh
2008-03-02 06244, 2008
yllona
cooperaa: apple upgrades
2008-03-02 06254, 2008
cooperaa
ah
2008-03-02 06230, 2008
yllona
even on refurb, the key is to always be polite, and to not rush the support person
2008-03-02 06229, 2008
yllona
i had a main drive failure about two years ago, i took the chassis into the apple store. they cloned and replaced the drive in 12 hours
2008-03-02 06241, 2008
yllona
with an upgrade :)
2008-03-02 06215, 2008
cooperaa
hmm under warranty?
2008-03-02 06224, 2008
yllona
yep.
2008-03-02 06232, 2008
cooperaa
I think my imac's warranty ran out in Dec
2008-03-02 06237, 2008
cooperaa
(only 1 year)
2008-03-02 06256, 2008
yllona
now since that machine is out of warranty, ikeep everything important on external drives, with backup to physical media
2008-03-02 06224, 2008
yllona
cooperaa: applecare is 3 years.
2008-03-02 06232, 2008
cooperaa
ya but $300 too
2008-03-02 06258, 2008
yllona
it only takes one major failure to convince you that applecare is the way to go. :)
2008-03-02 06230, 2008
cooperaa
here's hoping that I never have that one major failure ;)
2008-03-02 06233, 2008
yllona
one of my buddies was on an esaclator in an airport when his satchel opened, or was left open after security -- anyway it was slow motion disaster watching his laptop tumble down two floors
2008-03-02 06248, 2008
cooperaa
ooooooooh
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
yllona
;) no applecare and he was screwed
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
yllona
now he buys applecare on *everything* especially since he travels so much
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cooperaa
night folsk
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cooperaa
folks*
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BrianFreudf sends a rather encompassing RFC to the list, crosses fingers... lol
2008-03-02 06249, 2008
juhae
"I suggest you delete the entire belarussian record, including this entire thread. If a new record for that band reemerges, because someone starts it again, I will stay off it."
2008-03-02 06258, 2008
juhae
.... :D
2008-03-02 06222, 2008
BrianFreudf
lol
2008-03-02 06238, 2008
BrianFreudf
let's compromise. Ignore the 17 votes against this, do what I want, then let's talk :D
2008-03-02 06236, 2008
juhae
"It's either my way or highway"
2008-03-02 06207, 2008
BrianFreudf
and if you don't do as we ask, we will continue to say "NI!" until you do!
2008-03-02 06235, 2008
MClemo
17 votes against? That edit where someone was called a nazi?
2008-03-02 06240, 2008
BrianFreudf
yup
2008-03-02 06252, 2008
MClemo
ha
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BrianFreudf
off to bed now. xlotlu, MClemo, juhae, I just sent an RFC to the style list that I think you might be quite interested in
2008-03-02 06202, 2008
srotta
Hmm. MusicIP Mixer doesn't handle flac files through a network share. Weird.
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MClemo
natta BrianFreudf. I'll try to take a look
2008-03-02 06256, 2008
xlotlu
his provider knows when he wants to go to slepp, so it hiccups his connection
