pulling up my local copy of the list, and the NMA for it
2008-03-02 06249, 2008
petros
FauxFaux: Sure ;)
2008-03-02 06200, 2008
lauri
BrianFreudf: I must admit, I didn't actually know the proper name for the Onedin Line theme :)
2008-03-02 06208, 2008
mikemorr
"krazykiwi says there's a band called 'Tilly and the Wall' who make a feature out of having a tap dancer instead of a drummer (both live and on recordings)." Is that OK? How do I sign and date my wiki comment?
Right now, I am looking at the No. 25 aria, given in the wiki as Le nozze di Figaro, K. 492: Act IV, Scene VI. No. 25 Aria "Il capro e la capretta" (Basilio)
2008-03-02 06238, 2008
lauri
primarily because I've not seen the Onedin line in about 25 years, and hadn't actually ever tried to find out
2008-03-02 06240, 2008
BrianFreudf
ugh, aria-database is quite full of errors, I wouldn't trust it much
2008-03-02 06258, 2008
creature
But, the booklet indicates it's sung by Marcellina, and the translation suggests it's in Scene IV, not VI.
2008-03-02 06221, 2008
lauri
mikemorr: that's great thaks, and -- ["yourWikiName"] (dunno about date :)
2008-03-02 06240, 2008
BrianFreudf
ok, 1 sec, still waiting on NMA
2008-03-02 06248, 2008
creature
What's NMA?
2008-03-02 06225, 2008
BrianFreudf
Neue Mozart-Ausgabe - the urText version of every WA Mozart score
2008-03-02 06256, 2008
creature
Also, you may want to look at http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/relationships… and compare with the list; there's a few things in there I've changed. As mentioned, I came across something wikied as a Duettino but listed as a Recitative.
2008-03-02 06226, 2008
creature
Le nozze di Figaro, K. 492: Act III, Scene IX. Duettino "Io vi dico, signor, che Cherubino" (Contessa) for instance.
2008-03-02 06238, 2008
creature
Not quite sure how it's a duet with only one character listed.
2008-03-02 06238, 2008
BrianFreudf
well, it's quite possible there's errors, esp in the upper list (which hasn't been checked against the NMA yet)
2008-03-02 06216, 2008
BrianFreudf
ok, fially loaded
2008-03-02 06217, 2008
creature
Also, the wiki has no entry for the introductory Sinfonia.
2008-03-02 06247, 2008
BrianFreudf
No 25 is an Aria, according to NMA
2008-03-02 06204, 2008
creature
BrianFreudf: We agree, but who sings it, and in which scene?
2008-03-02 06243, 2008
BrianFreudf
hmmm, yes, you're right, it ought to be: Le nozze di Figaro, K. 492: Act IV, Scene IV. No. 25 Aria "Il capro e la capretta" (Marcellina)
2008-03-02 06203, 2008
creature
I haven't been keeping full track of the errors, but when you come to proof Le Nozze di Figaro, be very cautious about trusting the wiki entries. :)
2008-03-02 06226, 2008
BrianFreudf
and the other yes, it ought to be Le nozze di Figaro, K. 492: Act III, Scene IX. Recitativo "Io vi dico, signor, che Cherubino" (Antonio, Il Conte)
2008-03-02 06209, 2008
creature
Yep, that matches with my notes.
2008-03-02 06217, 2008
BrianFreudf
well, that's one benefit of moving it from the wiki to something like what we really wanted in the first place - people can fix :)
lesson: do not ask me for anything about the wiki, the wiki hates me, i hate it, we mostly steer clear of each other
2008-03-02 06219, 2008
lauri
thanks a ton :)
2008-03-02 06239, 2008
BrianFreudf
creature: as I have both in front of me to check: starting with No. 25: IV., V-VII., VII., VIII., Aprite is VIII. and ought to be Aria not Recitativo, IX, X, X, XI-XIV., Ultima
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
BrianFreudf
only one scene was off
2008-03-02 06221, 2008
creature
OK, that seems to gel with the listing. Thanks.
2008-03-02 06239, 2008
BrianFreudf
np
2008-03-02 06209, 2008
creature
Keep it in front of you, though.
2008-03-02 06223, 2008
creature
Le nozze di Figaro, K. 492: Act IV, Scene VII. No. 26 Recitativo "In quegli anni in cui val poco" (Figaro) I have this as No 26 Aria (Basilio)
2008-03-02 06200, 2008
creature
As does the Jpeg you linked.
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
creature
Can I trust the jpeg over all? Is it useful for me to tell you of these errors?
2008-03-02 06223, 2008
BrianFreudf
sure :)
2008-03-02 06236, 2008
BrianFreudf
had just jumped to the wiki, waiting for it to reload back at NMA
2008-03-02 06249, 2008
creature
OK, the next two are borked as well.
2008-03-02 06200, 2008
BrianFreudf
the jpeg is pretty much correct; there may occasionally be an error or two in the indexes that's not in the actual score
2008-03-02 06200, 2008
Freso
Does anyone know of some sed (or similar commandline) trickery to replace on line in a file with the contents of another file?
2008-03-02 06207, 2008
Freso
*one
2008-03-02 06213, 2008
creature
No 27 is listed as Recitativo/Recitativo Susanna/Figaro, when it's Recitativo/Aria Figaro/Figar.
2008-03-02 06223, 2008
creature
(Figaro/Figaro)
2008-03-02 06223, 2008
ruaok
Freso: you used rpl before?
2008-03-02 06228, 2008
ruaok
(on a linux box)
2008-03-02 06230, 2008
Freso
ruaok: rpl?
2008-03-02 06232, 2008
Freso
Nope.
2008-03-02 06244, 2008
ruaok
multi file search and replace.
2008-03-02 06254, 2008
BrianFreudf
creature, 1 sec, I'll look
2008-03-02 06208, 2008
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2008-03-02 06200, 2008
creature
No 28 Recitativo and Aria are transposed (Aria labelled as Recitativo and vice versa).
2008-03-02 06211, 2008
Freso
ruaok: Hm. It's stable on all platforms but amd64. Thanks for the tip! I'm looking into it. :)
2008-03-02 06219, 2008
Clint
Freso: you can do it with just GNU sed
2008-03-02 06222, 2008
ruaok
:-)
2008-03-02 06234, 2008
mikemorr
lauri: np
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
Freso
Clint: That's what I figured (hence my original question), but that's more than I can wrap my head around right now.
2008-03-02 06202, 2008
creature
BrianFreudf: Also, that's just Susanna.
2008-03-02 06204, 2008
Clint
Freso: do you wanna do it by line number or by pattern?
2008-03-02 06255, 2008
Freso
Clint: Well, pattern would probably be best/most portable, but as it's for a one-off right now, line number would do as well.
Clint: I could write the pattern to find the line though, I'm just not sure on how to make it replace that line with the contents of the other file.
2008-03-02 06257, 2008
creature
I have Le nozze di Figaro, K. 492: Act IV, Scene Ultima. No. 29 Finale "Pian pianin le andrò più presso" (Il Conte, Tutti) listed as (Cherubino, Countess), but the jpeg doesn't quite line up with that.
2008-03-02 06235, 2008
BrianFreudf
yes, they don't break apart multi-movement-within-a-movement opera works and such in the indexes
2008-03-02 06251, 2008
BrianFreudf
that'd where it's 100-some pages of score to dig through instead :P
2008-03-02 06259, 2008
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2008-03-02 06201, 2008
Clint
Freso: sed '/happypattern/ {r /file/to/include
2008-03-02 06204, 2008
Clint
d} filename
2008-03-02 06214, 2008
Clint
er, missed the ' after d}
2008-03-02 06245, 2008
Freso
Clint: So `sed '/happypattern/ {r /file/to/include d}' /file/to/act/on`?
2008-03-02 06204, 2008
Clint
Freso: that space between include and d should be a newline, but yes
2008-03-02 06214, 2008
Freso
Ah.
2008-03-02 06228, 2008
BrianFreudf
creature: though, I'd guess that Tutti could be better specified, if you feel like digging through and ID'ing the particular roles for each part :D
2008-03-02 06202, 2008
Clint
Freso: er, and if you want it to replace the file in-place, use -i
2008-03-02 06207, 2008
creature
(Count, Figaro, Basilio, Antonio, Susanna, Barbarina, Cherubino, Marcellina, Countess) for the final movement (Gente, gente, all'armi, all'armi!)
2008-03-02 06228, 2008
Freso
Clint: sed -i '/happy...
2008-03-02 06233, 2008
Clint
yes
2008-03-02 06244, 2008
BrianFreudf
I just put the corrrections in the wiki - feel free to edit the roles in place there :)
2008-03-02 06200, 2008
Clint
that will replace any line that matches happypattern with the contents of /file/to/include
I'm not sure I can face trying to load up that huge table on the wiki. :)
2008-03-02 06249, 2008
Freso
Clint: Excellent! I hate backups.
2008-03-02 06250, 2008
Freso
:p
2008-03-02 06253, 2008
lauri
all that one needs is a featured vocalist (and I suspect, because Salem al Fakir is a violinist, it probably even has one), and we're almost up to that silly example i made up
2008-03-02 06219, 2008
lauri
but he does sing too, so maybe it doesn't, dunno without listening to it
Clint: Awesome. Thanks! I knew there'd be some simple way of doing it. :)
2008-03-02 06206, 2008
Clint
long live unix
2008-03-02 06236, 2008
Freso
Indeed.
2008-03-02 06247, 2008
creature
BrianFreudf: Sorry, I think I'm going to wuss out and wait for someone to do it 'properly' from the score, either for the wiki or the new-system, whenever that happens.
2008-03-02 06206, 2008
creature
It's taken me a couple of hours to do the release, and I'm not confident enough to copy-and-paste direct from that to update the wiki.
2008-03-02 06214, 2008
BrianFreudf
lol, personally, if I didn't have a copy to edit and dump locally, I'd too be waiting for something better :P
2008-03-02 06201, 2008
creature
Is there an easy way to link releases together for multi-disc sets? That might be nice.
no release column, multiple releases in the column or one row for each release even if it's really the same track?
2008-03-02 06219, 2008
warp
yay, internet without lag.
2008-03-02 06234, 2008
warp is almost home.
2008-03-02 06239, 2008
lauri
how about a tricksy 'appears on 3 releases' in the releases column that you can click to see a list of?
2008-03-02 06250, 2008
lauri
or is that too tricksy just for search results
2008-03-02 06220, 2008
lauri
or if you get to that anyway by clicking the trackname, it'd be kind of redundant
2008-03-02 06235, 2008
warp
i'd like to have the releases mentioned in some way. a track without context has very little meaning to me.
2008-03-02 06236, 2008
warp
train is here
2008-03-02 06239, 2008
warp afk again :)
2008-03-02 06202, 2008
lauri
yeah, but437 VA comps for context maybe isn't that useful either
2008-03-02 06238, 2008
lauri
luks: how about show the 'original release album title' one if we know it, and '..and 437 other releases'? which either expands in place or goes to a list
2008-03-02 06214, 2008
luks_
hm, I just realized it was probably a stupid question
2008-03-02 06230, 2008
lauri
which would be epic fail for any classical release, and half of electronica, where stuff shows up on comps first anyway
2008-03-02 06232, 2008
luks_
because those 'release tracks' may have different titles from 'tracks'
2008-03-02 06233, 2008
lauri
never mind
2008-03-02 06244, 2008
luks_
so it will really need one row per release
2008-03-02 06258, 2008
luks_
and maybe one extra search type only for tracks without context
2008-03-02 06222, 2008
luks_
hm
2008-03-02 06201, 2008
BrianFreudf
I think it'd be helpful to see the context, though seeing the same track repeated (if it is actually the same track on the same release) is somewhat redundant
2008-03-02 06238, 2008
luks_
not if you have 'Foo (album version)', 'Foo (album mix)' and 'Foo', while they are still the same track
2008-03-02 06241, 2008
luks_
(IMO)
2008-03-02 06259, 2008
BrianFreudf
ah, yes, I thought you meant multiple hits listing for the same actual instance
2008-03-02 06213, 2008
luks_
this is the same instance
2008-03-02 06227, 2008
luks_
all of them would be the same master track 'Foo'
2008-03-02 06243, 2008
luks_
but they has different titles depending on the release
2008-03-02 06250, 2008
lauri
so this is searching 'work titles' and showing the 'releases it appears on' although they may not have the same 'track title'
2008-03-02 06252, 2008
BrianFreudf
yes, but on the same release, I would have the same track listed with three titles?
