Well, I don't really have anything to add from both of those replies, other than I agree with them :)
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aCiD2
So I'll leave it for the more experienced developers to discuss
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brianfreud
ruaok: I will say the one big benefit I see of cherrypy and its ilk is that it's easier, so even people like me can sorta figure out how to code and make it work (unlike php+perl)
2008-01-03 00338, 2008
ruaok
agreed!
2008-01-03 00355, 2008
ruaok
that is one thing that makes me really excited by all this: more people can play.
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aCiD2
Without a doubt imo, the biggest impact is gonna be separating view from logic
2008-01-03 00311, 2008
aCiD2
that opens up oportunities a tonne :)
2008-01-03 00313, 2008
ruaok
that too.
2008-01-03 00337, 2008
ruaok
I just didn't have enough web experience when I started this mess in '98.
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brianfreud
hell, it works, that's what counts.
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aCiD2
I think even if you did something like this would still happen, it's pretty natural :)
2008-01-03 00302, 2008
aCiD2
like you said - the goals have changed so much
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ruaok
and, if I had tried to make it do everything, MB wouldn't exist today.
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aCiD2
:o the horror
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ruaok
I very much had a "lets see if this works" attitude.
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ruaok
get something working that people can tell me stinks
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ruaok
you can't smell poo in a vacuum. :)
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brianfreud
yup - plus, just years of accumulated code, it's becoming more and more difficult, I think, for any new features to be done, just because of the implimentation issues.
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aCiD2
lol, that's a new one :)
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ruaok
wow. that was deep. :-)
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brianfreud
if one coder codes in the forest, and noone has a computer to compile the code, does the code exist? :D
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ruaok
and NGS is daunting without considering the existing codebase.
2008-01-03 00345, 2008
ruaok
lol
2008-01-03 00325, 2008
aCiD2
hmm, this ubuntu installation is taking years to boot up in parallels.. bah
but methinks that someone who writes filled with so much hate isn't a saint either.
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xlotlu
whatta relaxing hate rant :)
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FauxFaux
Heh, yes, that was entertaining.
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FauxFaux
Especially the 4 minute bit.
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Jugdish
fauxfaux: ping
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FauxFaux
Jugdish: Pong, something quick?
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xlotlu
omg the snpw
2008-01-03 00344, 2008
xlotlu
snow even
2008-01-03 00314, 2008
FauxFaux
Jugdish: I was just going to bed, it's far too cold to stand around, sorry. Leave it in the scrollback, I'll read when I wake up at some ungodly time tomorrow. :)
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Jugdish
k
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FauxFaux
Unless it's quick?
2008-01-03 00339, 2008
Jugdish
just curious if you still have MB reports on a server somewhere