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      • nikki wonders if this is mb-irc the musical
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      • FauxFaux
        Doremifa
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      • mudcrow now plats Now I'm Feeling Zo-MB-iefied by Alien Sex Fiend
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      • mudcrow
        sorry i just couldnt resist
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      • ruaok
        aCiD2: first post in mb-devel up
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      • aCiD2
        Cool, will take a look
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      • luks_
        luks_ is now known as luks
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      • aCiD2
        Shall I reply here, or would you prefer in the thread?
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      • aCiD2
        I am just curious which approach you want to take - the system that matthias proposed seems most systematic, and fastest to get feedback
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      • ruaok
        thread please.
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      • ruaok
        #4 with the staged rollout and parallel codebases sounds quite good to me.
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      • aCiD2
        Ok
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      • aCiD2
        Well, I don't really have anything to add from both of those replies, other than I agree with them :)
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      • aCiD2
        So I'll leave it for the more experienced developers to discuss
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      • brianfreud
        ruaok: I will say the one big benefit I see of cherrypy and its ilk is that it's easier, so even people like me can sorta figure out how to code and make it work (unlike php+perl)
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      • ruaok
        agreed!
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      • ruaok
        that is one thing that makes me really excited by all this: more people can play.
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      • aCiD2
        Without a doubt imo, the biggest impact is gonna be separating view from logic
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      • aCiD2
        that opens up oportunities a tonne :)
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      • ruaok
        that too.
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      • ruaok
        I just didn't have enough web experience when I started this mess in '98.
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      • brianfreud
        hell, it works, that's what counts.
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      • aCiD2
        I think even if you did something like this would still happen, it's pretty natural :)
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      • aCiD2
        like you said - the goals have changed so much
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      • ruaok
        and, if I had tried to make it do everything, MB wouldn't exist today.
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      • aCiD2
        :o the horror
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      • ruaok
        I very much had a "lets see if this works" attitude.
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      • ruaok
        get something working that people can tell me stinks
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      • ruaok
        you can't smell poo in a vacuum. :)
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      • brianfreud
        yup - plus, just years of accumulated code, it's becoming more and more difficult, I think, for any new features to be done, just because of the implimentation issues.
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      • aCiD2
        lol, that's a new one :)
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      • ruaok
        wow. that was deep. :-)
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      • brianfreud
        if one coder codes in the forest, and noone has a computer to compile the code, does the code exist? :D
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      • ruaok
        and NGS is daunting without considering the existing codebase.
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      • ruaok
        lol
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      • aCiD2
        hmm, this ubuntu installation is taking years to boot up in parallels.. bah
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      • xlotlu
        brianfreud: what you doing reading RoR rants? :)
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      • ruaok
        wow. nice rant.
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      • ruaok
        but methinks that someone who writes filled with so much hate isn't a saint either.
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      • xlotlu
        whatta relaxing hate rant :)
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      • FauxFaux
        Heh, yes, that was entertaining.
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      • FauxFaux
        Especially the 4 minute bit.
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      • Jugdish
        fauxfaux: ping
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      • FauxFaux
        Jugdish: Pong, something quick?
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      • xlotlu
        omg the snpw
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      • xlotlu
        snow even
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      • FauxFaux
        Jugdish: I was just going to bed, it's far too cold to stand around, sorry. Leave it in the scrollback, I'll read when I wake up at some ungodly time tomorrow. :)
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      • Jugdish
        k
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      • FauxFaux
        Unless it's quick?
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      • Jugdish
        just curious if you still have MB reports on a server somewhere
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      • FauxFaux
        http://faux.no-ip.biz/mbreports should still be working.
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      • Jugdish
        cool
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      • Jugdish
        and...when you get the chance, was hoping you could add a report for all cover art URLs with http://web.archive.org/web/*
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      • Jugdish
        ;)
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      • BrianG
        are you planning on removing them all?
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      • FauxFaux
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      • FauxFaux
        Anyway, *gone*
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      • Jugdish
        well, as i understand it all http://web.archive.org/web/* URLs are currently dead and need to be changed to http://crawls.archive.org/katrina/*
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      • BrianG
        weird
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      • BrianG
        i just added a web.archive.org URL
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      • BrianG
        earlier tonight and it worked fine
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      • BrianG
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      • Jugdish
        hmm, that is weird
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      • juhae
        seems to work
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        Knio1 is now known as Knio
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      • BrianG
        that's illegal in 35 states
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      • pae
        hello
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      • pae
        is there a setup.py uninstall comand, for removing a previous picard version before installing a new one?
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      • Zharf
        did you actually try that setup.py uninstall?
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      • creature
        Quick question. How do I add a discid to a release?
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      • creature
        I have looked at http://musicbrainz.org/doc/HowToAddDiscIDs but it doesn't take me to that TOC page, it takes me to http://musicbrainz.org/bare/cdlookup.html?id=HtWS… instead.
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      • MClemo
        what version of picard are you using?
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      • creature
        0.9.0 final.
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      • MClemo
        did you press "lookup manually"?
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      • creature
        I did.
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      • MClemo
        pressing that brings me to an url like http://musicbrainz.org/bare/cdlookup.html?id=vcJh…
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      • creature
        I have a theory, but you'll have to wait a couple of ticks for me to test it.
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      • xlotlu
        cpu ticks?
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      • xlotlu
        he's missing the part with tracks and toc
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      • creature
        Well, I thought it could be because I had GRIP open. But it turns out that even after quitting GRIP and restarting Picard, it doesn't handle it.
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      • creature
        Hmm, I have another theory.
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      • creature
        Got it. The problem was a lack of quotes in my BROWSER setting, so the first & acted as a kind of escape character.
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      • xlotlu
        or as a kind of send the process in background and run next command
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      • creature
        Exactly.
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      • creature
        Anyway, I must go. Thanks for the help.
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      • enjayhch
        hello
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      • enjayhch
        is anyone doing anything about this URL additon?
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      • enjayhch
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      • enjayhch
        erm
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      • enjayhch
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      • enjayhch
        "music can be purchased for downloaded at http://www.nl.bol.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP...."