no wait, see the section 'Opdracht geven tot verveelvoudiging'
2008-01-08 00814, 2008
LotR
heh, ok. not for audio/video
2008-01-08 00809, 2008
warp
yep
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warp
the nice thing though, is that when YOU are making a 'thuiskopie', the source material doesn't have to be an original and/or legal copy.
2008-01-08 00812, 2008
luks
it's same as here then
2008-01-08 00850, 2008
warp
so, all the mp3s and flacs on may harddisk are legal. i'm only engaging in illegal activity if i put them on a webpage on share them through bittorrent/limewire/etc...
2008-01-08 00801, 2008
warp
s/may/my/
2008-01-08 00808, 2008
luks
you can for example even download anything from the internet as long as long you don't know you are downloading something illegal
2008-01-08 00814, 2008
luks
and not sharing it, of course
2008-01-08 00859, 2008
warp
the 'as long you don't know' isn't relevant in dutch copyright law. if you're copying from an illegal source, only the person who gave you access to that source is breaking the law.
2008-01-08 00831, 2008
warp
he/she is the one distributing from a private copy.
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luks
heh, aCiD2 is playing with irc clients? :)
2008-01-08 00849, 2008
aCiD2
ha, I'm falling in love with emacs (please don't kill me :P) - and messing about with the config
2008-01-08 00835, 2008
canidae
think i got a knife somewhere around here i can stab you with...
2008-01-08 00839, 2008
aCiD2
:P
2008-01-08 00805, 2008
aCiD2
I gave VIm enough of a chance, just didn't go with dvorak I think
2008-01-08 00828, 2008
luks
and vim doesn't have an irc client, after all, does it? :)
2008-01-08 00835, 2008
canidae
nor minesweeper
2008-01-08 00848, 2008
Rondom
and no web-browser....
2008-01-08 00855, 2008
aCiD2
I don't use the web browser
2008-01-08 00856, 2008
aCiD2
yet >.>
2008-01-08 00809, 2008
canidae
i tend to let linux be the os and not something else :p
2008-01-08 00836, 2008
aCiD2
well I hate xchat anyway, erc seems nice though
2008-01-08 00844, 2008
canidae
irssi?
2008-01-08 00852, 2008
aCiD2
irssi was good too
2008-01-08 00804, 2008
aCiD2
irssi and erc are the same to me - I'm not exactly a hardcore irc user
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warp
aCiD2: what?
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aCiD2
warp, hmm?
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warp
aCiD2: i've been using vim for two years, with dvorak.
2008-01-08 00828, 2008
aCiD2
Good for you :) I didn't find it comfortable though
2008-01-08 00843, 2008
CatCat
been broken on qwerty
2008-01-08 00801, 2008
warp
i switched from emacs, where movement is ^F, ^B, ^N, ^P which didn't make much sense either ;)
2008-01-08 00813, 2008
aCiD2
At least I can remember them :)
2008-01-08 00821, 2008
aCiD2
what's vim, hjkl?
2008-01-08 00839, 2008
warp
aCiD2: if you need to 'remember' cursor movement keys, you're doing it wrong :)
2008-01-08 00852, 2008
aCiD2
you have to remember them when you're learning
2008-01-08 00804, 2008
CatCat
i dont think most norwegiasn even *know* there is anythign besides qwerty
2008-01-08 00819, 2008
aCiD2
I don't tihnk most *people* know anything but qwerty :P
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CatCat
qwerty was designed for typewriters to prevent the keys from stickign to much togheter
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aCiD2
yup
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CatCat
but its the evil i know
2008-01-08 00822, 2008
CatCat
anythign eszle would be.. to hard to get into
2008-01-08 00838, 2008
CatCat
i'd keep pressign the wrong keyds and it would drive me mad
2008-01-08 00843, 2008
aCiD2
the first month of dvorak was hell, ya
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warp
dvorak doesn't make you significantly faster or anything.
2008-01-08 00807, 2008
juhae
i'm pretty sure someone has made a keyboard layout specifically writing norwegian too
2008-01-08 00815, 2008
CatCat
the kitchen beckons me, see ya'll laters
2008-01-08 00824, 2008
warp
it's just a tad more comfortable to me, and i make less typo's.
2008-01-08 00828, 2008
CatCat
åæø
2008-01-08 00837, 2008
aCiD2
I'm about the same speed as I was in qwerty, and yea - way more comfortable and slightly typos
2008-01-08 00847, 2008
aCiD2
still end up typing like a 5 year old sometimes though, it seems
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aCiD2
tata mo
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canidae
rumour has it that norwegian programmers suffer less from damages using a keyboard as some of the more common keys used in coding ()[]{}<> are placed quite differently from english layouts
2008-01-08 00811, 2008
canidae
whether it's true i have no idea about, though
2008-01-08 00844, 2008
canidae
supposedly because we'll have to move our hands more :p
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aCiD2
hmm, <> looks like quite a pinky stretch :)
2008-01-08 00830, 2008
warp
canidae: moving hands more is not always a benefit.
2008-01-08 00803, 2008
canidae
i'm just saying there's a rumour about it :)
2008-01-08 00810, 2008
warp
ok :)
2008-01-08 00823, 2008
canidae
i can also say i've ~never had troubles with my hands, and i'm on the computer 16 hours/day
2008-01-08 00841, 2008
canidae
i did get it once, but then i was coding in a highly mouse-oriented style
2008-01-08 00854, 2008
canidae
so it was most likely not the keyboard's fault
2008-01-08 00810, 2008
warp
i have, though nothing serious.. i do pay attention to any peculiar pains in fingers/hands/wrists/etc..
2008-01-08 00800, 2008
warp
it _guess_ i naturally take enough breaks and such, that i don't need workrave or similar software.
2008-01-08 00812, 2008
canidae
used workrave when i did get troubles with my hand, it did help
