nikki: afaik its a composition by unknown peopels, its a trad tune
2008-01-01 00143, 2008
nikki_ found the code a pain in the arse to work with
2008-01-01 00150, 2008
CatCat
its the edgy sie of csg
2008-01-01 00151, 2008
nikki_
CatCat: so it shouldn't be under the artist who performed it?
2008-01-01 00101, 2008
FauxFaux
HTML::Mason is far superior to php for most things, mainly 'cos it's not using the php "vm". :)
2008-01-01 00101, 2008
CatCat
sould a beethoven piece?
2008-01-01 00122, 2008
nikki_
beethoven is a person, traditional is a "oh, damn, no idea who wrote this..."
2008-01-01 00122, 2008
CatCat
definitly the ar's shoudl be there though
2008-01-01 00139, 2008
nikki_
the artist already has a bunch of albums in mb, it seems silly to put it under traditional
2008-01-01 00146, 2008
CatCat
no, traditional is a "this was written and rewritten much liek a old folk tale"
2008-01-01 00107, 2008
CatCat
you cant say that one person at oen time wrote it, its more "a whole peopel trough 300 years helped form it"
2008-01-01 00131, 2008
nikki_
it still seems wrong to me
2008-01-01 00115, 2008
FauxFaux
luks: I'll write on list later, but, as that other guy said, all these nice orm things (I've tried with Catalyst) don't back onto existing database-schemas well at all. In any way.
2008-01-01 00132, 2008
luks
I know
2008-01-01 00134, 2008
nikki_
if it were an album where the performers weren't mentioned or were hardly mentioned, sure
2008-01-01 00146, 2008
nikki_
but when the largest text on the cover is the performer...
2008-01-01 00150, 2008
luks
I wanted to use only the request dispatching part of catalyst
2008-01-01 00103, 2008
aCiD2
FauxFaux: we're not suggesting the usage of orm
2008-01-01 00106, 2008
luks
and probably Text::MicroMason
2008-01-01 00157, 2008
FauxFaux
So long as you avoid the DBIx::Class /shite/ you might survive. And the terrible, terrible development server. And the fact that it depends on the entirety of cpan. And that the packages don't build from cpan most of the time. And.. :)
2008-01-01 00145, 2008
luks
the terrible development server is at least easy to get running
2008-01-01 00152, 2008
luks
which you can't say about apache1 :)
2008-01-01 00159, 2008
FauxFaux
True. :)
2008-01-01 00106, 2008
FauxFaux
And the current site doesn't exactly run on windows, either.
2008-01-01 00110, 2008
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FauxFaux
I'm going to have to look at cherrypy, never tried python from a web-scripting perspective, that must have been one of it's targets, right? (Not that they hit any of their other targets etc. mutter mutter)
2008-01-01 00152, 2008
aCiD2
nor did php :P
2008-01-01 00109, 2008
luks
hi yalaforge! :)
2008-01-01 00123, 2008
yalaforge
hey luks!
2008-01-01 00134, 2008
yalaforge
interesting things are about to happen, a good start for 2008 :)
2008-01-01 00144, 2008
aCiD2
:)
2008-01-01 00149, 2008
luks
not yet sure if anything is going to happen
2008-01-01 00100, 2008
FauxFaux
aCiD2: Sure it did, "rapid" "code" "production"!
2008-01-01 00112, 2008
luks
but if I want to work on anything new, I have to do at least something about it
2008-01-01 00113, 2008
aCiD2
faux, rapid has never been assossciated with php for me :P
2008-01-01 00115, 2008
yalaforge
I just hope you'll achieve more than I did
2008-01-01 00151, 2008
yalaforge
I gave up and simply started with a new domain model that's only visible on the web service interface ;-)
2008-01-01 00129, 2008
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luks
I've trashed so much mbserver code just because no matter what I did, it wasn't right
2008-01-01 00151, 2008
yalaforge
yeah, sounds familiar
2008-01-01 00159, 2008
FauxFaux
I've touched about four lines of code, and that sounds familiar to me, too.
2008-01-01 00137, 2008
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yalaforge
hmm, the code looks a lot like when I left it ...
2008-01-01 00102, 2008
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luks
but it's worse, because new things were added
2008-01-01 00120, 2008
luks
the label code was hack after hack and duplication after duplication, but hey.. it works :)
2008-01-01 00139, 2008
yalaforge
I told you :-P
2008-01-01 00147, 2008
luks
I knew that
2008-01-01 00159, 2008
luks
but to make it work was my primary goal
2008-01-01 00159, 2008
FauxFaux
Wish I had experience with any of those things listed; as fun as starting the site from scratch in php would be, it's not exactly going to be accepted by you KKK people. =P
2008-01-01 00102, 2008
yalaforge
seriously, modeling label as an artist would have helped a lot
2008-01-01 00103, 2008
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CatCat
"rape the Code production"
2008-01-01 00108, 2008
CatCat
with a rabbit!
2008-01-01 00109, 2008
CatCat
uhm
2008-01-01 00138, 2008
yalaforge
anyway: I think the most serious problem is the php-style code in htdocs
2008-01-01 00151, 2008
luks
yes
2008-01-01 00157, 2008
CatCat
¬_¬
2008-01-01 00158, 2008
aCiD2
Introducing templating would make a world of difference, I think
2008-01-01 00107, 2008
luks
basically evething important is in htdocs, it shouldn't be that at all
2008-01-01 00108, 2008
aCiD2
even if we stuck with the current perl codebase
2008-01-01 00116, 2008
yalaforge
yup
2008-01-01 00118, 2008
luks
*there
2008-01-01 00147, 2008
FauxFaux
Do I know these Matthias and Ollie, btw?
2008-01-01 00155, 2008
aCiD2
I'm Ollie :P
2008-01-01 00100, 2008
yalaforge is Matthias
2008-01-01 00100, 2008
luks
you talk to them :)
2008-01-01 00101, 2008
CatCat
the whole thinghs needs recoding you know
2008-01-01 00111, 2008
aCiD2
hopefully you know a bit by now Faux :P
2008-01-01 00112, 2008
FauxFaux
That'd be a yes. \o/
2008-01-01 00113, 2008
yalaforge has been pretty much inactive last year
2008-01-01 00116, 2008
CatCat wistles
2008-01-01 00126, 2008
aCiD2
cat: this conversation?
2008-01-01 00131, 2008
CatCat is sooooooooooo ignored :D
2008-01-01 00132, 2008
aCiD2
oh
2008-01-01 00133, 2008
aCiD2
recoding
2008-01-01 00135, 2008
aCiD2
not recording :P
2008-01-01 00141, 2008
CatCat
lol
2008-01-01 00144, 2008
FauxFaux
That Luka%$$"£$$s character sounds crazy, don't want to know that one. =p
2008-01-01 00115, 2008
yalaforge
yeah, that guy seems to be on a mission. better get out of his way ;-)
