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      • FauxFaux
        My aCiD2 wants to party all the time.
      • 2008-01-10 01029, 2008

      • aCiD2
        xD
      • 2008-01-10 01043, 2008

      • ruaok waves at everyone
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      • aCiD2 works out how to set a quit message on ERC :P
      • 2008-01-10 01057, 2008

      • aCiD2
        hiho, ruaok-o!
      • 2008-01-10 01001, 2008

      • ruaok
        :-)
      • 2008-01-10 01020, 2008

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      • aCiD2
        brb, stupid audio drivers are crackling again
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      • aCiD2
        Much better
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      • aCiD2
        Whoops, wrong button ^_^
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      • BrianG
        Heady Murphy
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      • aCiD2
        ffs, I hate these drivers -_-
      • 2008-01-10 01010, 2008

      • BrianG
        what sound card do you have?
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      • Shepard`
        Shepard` is now known as Shepard
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      • aCiD2
        BrianG - it's the inbuilt macbook one
      • 2008-01-10 01048, 2008

      • aCiD2
        but the linux drivers seem to crackle through the left channel (known problem) randomly
      • 2008-01-10 01045, 2008

      • BrianG
        anyone ever play with Exaile?
      • 2008-01-10 01001, 2008

      • BrianG
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      • symphonick
        I use exaile... but only because I can't get Amarok to work with jackd :(
      • 2008-01-10 01024, 2008

      • aCiD2
        symphonick: I heard about jack but thought it was the equivilent of ASIO on linux, why do you use JACK?
      • 2008-01-10 01044, 2008

      • aCiD2
        and BrianG - only heard of, not yet played (love Quod Libet enough as it is :))
      • 2008-01-10 01013, 2008

      • BrianG
        i can't get into Quod Libet for some reason
      • 2008-01-10 01018, 2008

      • symphonick
        aCiD2, It is. That's why I use it.
      • 2008-01-10 01046, 2008

      • aCiD2
        But what benefits does it have? I thought it was just low latency - is there more?
      • 2008-01-10 01007, 2008

      • aCiD2
        BrianG: I like it's rediculous use of my metadata - disc subtitles, track versions, multiple tags
      • 2008-01-10 01039, 2008

      • aCiD2
        but it is quite minimal (and no gapless play back :/)
      • 2008-01-10 01037, 2008

      • symphonick
        aCiD2, low latency is enough for me... & playing sounds from multiple apps at once
      • 2008-01-10 01011, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Hmm, fair enough :) ALSA seems to do everything I want thus far
      • 2008-01-10 01029, 2008

      • symphonick
        BrianG, IMNSHO exaile is butt-ugly & lacking in features
      • 2008-01-10 01034, 2008

      • aCiD2
        lol
      • 2008-01-10 01037, 2008

      • aCiD2
        I'm trying it out now
      • 2008-01-10 01044, 2008

      • BrianG
        i'm going to try it later tonight
      • 2008-01-10 01008, 2008

      • symphonick
        Well, don't say I didn't warn you ;-)
      • 2008-01-10 01011, 2008

      • BrianG
        :)
      • 2008-01-10 01043, 2008

      • BrianG
        i guess there isn't any music players with ipod touch support yet, eh?
      • 2008-01-10 01049, 2008

      • aCiD2
        nah, not yet
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      • BrianG
        for linux
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      • aCiD2
        Banshee will be first there, I assume
      • 2008-01-10 01008, 2008

      • BrianG
        yeah? i used to use Banshee, but i found it aqfully slow
      • 2008-01-10 01026, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Hmm, I found it pretty nice, just no browser interface
      • 2008-01-10 01046, 2008

      • aCiD2
        And they ran libipod, then libipodsharp, and now some other ipod library
      • 2008-01-10 01051, 2008

      • BrianG
        i like to scroll through my tunes as fast as possible
      • 2008-01-10 01032, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Banshee is the one big playlist type view, I assume you can scroll fast (seems quite useless otherwise :P)
      • 2008-01-10 01046, 2008

      • BrianG
        iirc it was actually slow scroling
      • 2008-01-10 01028, 2008

      • BrianG
        been a while since i've used it, i could be mistaken
      • 2008-01-10 01030, 2008

      • aCiD2
        lol
      • 2008-01-10 01037, 2008

      • aCiD2
        exaile is taking years to import my music, *yawn*
      • 2008-01-10 01034, 2008

      • BrianG
        does Ex Falso use MusicBrainz?
      • 2008-01-10 01007, 2008

      • aCiD2
        No, but Quod Libet has plugins to query mb
      • 2008-01-10 01016, 2008

      • nikki
        I like ex falso
      • 2008-01-10 01024, 2008

      • nikki
        I tried to get it to work in osx but it wouldn't :/
      • 2008-01-10 01033, 2008

      • aCiD2
        "Dynamic Shuffle: Shuffles tracks based on Last.FM similar artists" that's pretty cool
      • 2008-01-10 01053, 2008

      • BrianG
        ipod touch shuffle is awful
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      • BrianG
        i get 2 artists in a row fairly often
      • 2008-01-10 01042, 2008

      • aCiD2
        I couldn't do a touch... I like to take my whole library with me (only about 40gb)
      • 2008-01-10 01014, 2008

      • ruaok hugs his iPhone
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      • ruaok
        8Gb is enough for having it *everywhere*
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      • BrianG
        i wish the touch had the speaker like the iphone has
      • 2008-01-10 01016, 2008

      • aCiD2
        I quite like Exaile, interface seems quite nice
      • 2008-01-10 01029, 2008

      • ruaok
        probably too slim for that...
      • 2008-01-10 01041, 2008

      • ruaok
        nikki: what music player do you use on os x?
      • 2008-01-10 01000, 2008

      • BrianG
        im sure someone makes speakers thiner than the touch :)
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      • Clint has quit
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      • aCiD2
        nah, not sticking with exaile, just aint clicking enough with me :P
      • 2008-01-10 01042, 2008

      • BrianG
        i think i'll still check it out
      • 2008-01-10 01001, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Worth checking out
      • 2008-01-10 01010, 2008

      • nikki
        ruaok: play
      • 2008-01-10 01036, 2008

      • ruaok
        the command line utility?
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      • nikki
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      • nikki
        I don't really like the interface, but it plays flacs and doesn't crash all the time like cog does
      • 2008-01-10 01001, 2008

      • ruaok
        and it supports this crazy thing called MusicBrainz. can't be all bad. :)
      • 2008-01-10 01003, 2008

      • ruaok
        thanks
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      • nikki
        hehe
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      • aCiD2
        huh, bug #3511 is odd
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      • ruaok
        what's odd about it?
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      • aCiD2
        Just odd to see that the server crashes on some queries
      • 2008-01-10 01027, 2008

      • aCiD2
        But I don't know much, if anything, about lucene
      • 2008-01-10 01035, 2008

      • aCiD2
        our our search handlers
      • 2008-01-10 01026, 2008

      • ruaok
        I'm guessing that something is getting is query syntax confused.
      • 2008-01-10 01035, 2008

      • ruaok
        *its
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      • brianfreud
        A thought I had while on the bus today... rather than some annotations being really long, maybe have multiple annotations per object? "SubOptimalCredits" "History" "Notes for Editors" came to mind
      • 2008-01-10 01024, 2008

      • aCiD2
        how would they be displayed?
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      • aCiD2
        brb
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      • brianfreud
        non-js, each subsection as a == ==, one after the other. js-on, little tabs to flip between them
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      • brianfreud
        non-js, each subsection as a == ==, one after the other. js-on, little tabs to flip between them
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      • brianfreud
        I'm working on the ARs and history between 1877 and 1929 for the cylinder companies - I have a ton of good material, but esp for Columbia, if the whole history were eventually in there, plus editing notes, plus SOC's, plus other stuff, that's a MASSIVE label annotation
      • 2008-01-10 01056, 2008

      • brianfreud
        or look at the current Varese Sarabande annotation, which is rather huge.
      • 2008-01-10 01009, 2008

      • brianfreud
        all good, all useful, but huge
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      • aCiD2
        Seems cool, could be done all client side too
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      • aCiD2
        right?
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      • brianfreud
        how so?
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      • luks
        you don't need multiple annotations for that
      • 2008-01-10 01057, 2008

      • aCiD2
        Well I mean the annotation is the same, the web browser splits it up with javascript to make it more readable
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      • ruaok sees no problem with large annotations
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      • brianfreud
        more just text-overload ru
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      • brianfreud
        if I pull the label page, seeing 4 pages of history, then 2 pages of editing notes on cat #s and such, then a bunch of SOCs, before I ever get down to release listings... just seems it could be presented cleaner
      • 2008-01-10 01013, 2008

      • dalen has quit
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      • aCiD2
        sure, but it doesn't need multi annotations
      • 2008-01-10 01030, 2008

      • aCiD2
        just use javascript to present it
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      • brianfreud
        and aCiD2, yes, if we had a js scipt that could turn, say, each == == in an annotation into a tab, or whatever, it'd be doable
      • 2008-01-10 01045, 2008

      • aCiD2
        yup
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      • aCiD2 may have a hack tomorrow, for kicks :)
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      • brianfreud
        hmmm, hald tempted to whip up a GM script to do just that :P
      • 2008-01-10 01005, 2008

      • aCiD2
        or there you go :)
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      • brianfreud
        would you use = = or == == as the separator?
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      • aCiD2
        = xxx =
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      • aCiD2
        err, = xxx =
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      • brianfreud
        hmmm, how does that look in the current (non-js) view...
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      • aCiD2
        or just * xx:
      • 2008-01-10 01043, 2008

      • brianfreud
        yeah, = x = looks huge in normal view, I'd use the == x ==
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      • aCiD2
        Oh, annotations are formated with the wiki?
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      • aCiD2
        cool
      • 2008-01-10 01007, 2008

      • brianfreud
        yeah
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      • brianfreud
        it's not 100% full moin support, but 90% of it works
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      • brianfreud
        oh yeah, and I tested - it's not listed anywhere, but our moin version does support __test__ for underline
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      • aCiD2
        100% support but 90% functionality... how does that work? :P
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      • brianfreud
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      • aCiD2
        what is with you automods and uriah heap...
      • 2008-01-10 01008, 2008

      • aCiD2
        and I see what you mean
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      • brianfreud
        yeah - only ---- works, none of the other separators, URL by itself shows as text, not a link, and not all the list styles work right
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      • brianfreud adds underline to the test cases
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      • brianfreud
        oh yes, and most important... no table support
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      • luks
        no underline
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      • nikki wishes lists didn't need four spaces before the *
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      • nikki
        brianfreud: you realise we have test artists for testing, right? ;)
      • 2008-01-10 01036, 2008

      • brianfreud
        yup, no underline support
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      • brianfreud
        nikki: lol, notice it's the test server :P