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      • xlotlu
        symphonick: i think it was mostly brianfreud and cooperaa i talked with (but was pretty sure i pulled your sleeve too) :)
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      • xlotlu
        meh, google didn't properly index chatlogs :/ ... any search for it?
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      • warp
        wget them and grep them yourself :)
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      • xlotlu
        :P
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      • xlotlu
        hmm. i *do* have the logs. in my logs folder :)
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      • xlotlu
        now on what computer?
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      • Zharf
        hmm
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      • Zharf
        machinae supremacy used to have two different "Redeemer"s in the database
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      • Zharf
        (apart from the underground edition)
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      • Zharf
        now there's only one and it still says "(Please do not merge this with the other "Redeemer" entry in the database. They were mixed by different people and will have differnet Advanced Relationships.)"
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      • Zharf
        with a dead link in the "Redeemer" part
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      • sHELL
        hi
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      • sHELL
        sHELL is now known as Ithaqua
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      • Ithaqua
        hmmm
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      • Ithaqua
        got a question
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      • xlotlu
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      • Ithaqua
        is it possible to relate cd's as in a serie of cd's?
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      • xlotlu
        symphonick: but the thing that started that discussion was more specific -- a single catalogue no.
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      • symphonick
        xlotlu: thanks, I'll have a look
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      • xlotlu
        Ithaqua: not really. people do it by linking to them in the annotation. They also use tags, and there's also this on the wiki: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Series/
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      • Ithaqua
        ah
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      • MClemo
        hm, that reminds me: the Glenn Gould box uses "CD 22a" and "CD 22b" for double discs of an album. Will I get killed if I use "Glenn Gould... (disc 22a: ...)" for the release name?
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      • Ithaqua
        xlotlu, thanks :)
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      • Ithaqua
        must have at least 10 releases, gues I don't have to worry about it
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      • xlotlu
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      • xlotlu
        Zharf: you could kindly modify that annotation with the proper explanation and pointing to that edit log :)
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      • Zharf
        picard didn't like me when I told it to save all those 15k files
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      • Ithaqua
        hehe
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      • Zharf
        I wonder if it's doing something or just crashed
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      • Ithaqua
        yeah, its kinda hard to figure out if it is actualy doing something
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      • FauxFaux
        It should've slapped you for dropping 15k files on it to start with. :)
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      • Zharf
        why
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      • Zharf
        it did take an hour or so to go through them when I gave them to it
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      • Ithaqua
        hehe
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      • xlotlu
        you should take it one album at a time, so you can check it's doing the right thing ....
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      • Ithaqua nods, true
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      • xlotlu
        because the exact same track can be in 10 different albums, and nothing will guarantee it will fetch the one you expect
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      • Zharf
        all the albums were already musicbrainz tagged
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      • xlotlu
        ah
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      • xlotlu
        you were refreshing data?
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      • Zharf
        yes
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      • xlotlu
        but obviously, there's the second reason. apps tend to crash :)
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      • Zharf
        the ones I write, don't :)
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      • xlotlu
        most probably right now it's fighting with your memory, and swapping like crazy
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      • Zharf
        hmm
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      • Ithaqua
        by the way, I added this album... err... did I do a good job? http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=71…
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      • xlotlu
        yes, your apps only have features :)
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      • Ithaqua
        my first one :/
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      • Zharf
        31332 eclipser 20 0 439m 215m 12m R 86.8 42.8 59:28.16 python
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      • xlotlu
        Ithaqua: welcome to MB :)
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      • Zharf
        hmmm
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      • Zharf
        :)
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      • Ithaqua
        hope for the love of god I don't ge spanked
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      • Zharf
        xlotlu, I'll just leave it on for the night :)
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      • xlotlu
        Zharf: don't worry, if it goes over the top the kernel will start killing your dearest processes :)
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      • Zharf
        there's still plenty of swap left!
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      • Zharf
        Swap: 1510068k total, 175772k used, 1334296k free, 107460k cached
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      • xlotlu
        but it's swapping?
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      • Zharf
        something is
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      • xlotlu
        heh
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      • xlotlu
        i bet it doesn't release the file handlers until it's done with them
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      • Zharf
        well, the used swap isn't really increasing
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      • Ithaqua
        xlotlu, thanks... bit nervous, kinda get the feeling there is a huge "ban hammer 15k special edition" somewhere for noobs and faulty submissions
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      • xlotlu
        so... 15K file handlers in python. not funny :)
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      • Zharf
        :)
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      • inhouseuk__
        inhouseuk__ is now known as inhouseuk
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      • Zharf
        oh, I think the swap could be caused by X too
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      • xlotlu
        Ithaqua: it looks ok. and there's not much you can get wrong unless you're editing classical :)
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      • Zharf
        for some reason just running X on my box for a couple of days makes it use a lot of memory and swap
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      • xlotlu
        X would be a weird thing to swap
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      • Zharf
        yeah I know
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      • Zharf
        it probably leaks a lot
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      • Ithaqua
        xlotlu, heh thx... kinda pain in the ass to get the stuff right with japanese releases
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      • deadchip
        swapping the leaks is like fatectomz
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      • deadchip
        ectomy*
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      • Ithaqua
        specialy the artis names, had to add some double names, since there are western counterparts :/
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      • xlotlu performs a swapectomy on Zharf
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      • xlotlu
        Ithaqua: then you should probably add an AcancedRelationship, i think there's a "transliterated" AR (though probably not for artists)
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      • nikki
        most of them are kept together as one entry
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      • xlotlu
        they might need to be merged together... but you'd need to read up on artist merging
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      • nikki
        unless there's some sort of separate career under a different name
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      • xlotlu
        nikki: now that i think of it, i don't even know how to set an english name for a foreign artist :)
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      • Ithaqua
        I gues, there is no distinquise in capitals?
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      • Ithaqua
        for example, the american band name Nine and the japanese artist NINE
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      • nikki
        are those the same group?
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      • Ithaqua
        nope
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      • nikki
        then they should be separate anyway
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      • xlotlu
        Ithaqua: if you add an artist with the same name you're forced to add a disambiguation comment
      • 2008-05-18 13938, 2008

      • Ithaqua
        yeah, I did that
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      • Ithaqua
        altho I should keep a tight suit with naming the disambiquation comments, made a slip with one of those
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      • warp
        Ithaqua: welcome! looks like good work judging by a quick glance, discid, catalog no, label. :D
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      • nikki
        there are loads of artists with the same names, I think nirvana is a popular name
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      • Ithaqua
        warp, I did my research :3
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      • nikki
        I thought you meant stuff like entering an entry for "tomoyasu hotei" because he was credited as a transliteration on an american release when he's in kanji on the japanese one or whatever
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      • nikki
        which we would usually keep as the same artist 'cause the same songs are under both names
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      • Ithaqua
        hmmm as far I know Exit Tunes do not release in the west, so I don't have to worry about that...
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      • warp
        Ithaqua: you might want to paste some of the urls you used for researching in the edit note next time you add a release. It helps other editors to quickly check that your edit is correct and vote yes or approve it.
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      • craig__
        i'm using picard on ubuntu hardy and whenever i process a large number of files it eventually stops on "loading album information"... in the debug it says "HTTP Error: Host not found 2 (status: 200)", i have to quit and restart. it seems to occur randomly
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      • craig__
        any ideas?
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      • Ithaqua
        warp, okey
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      • warp
        craig__: does picard itself crash entirely, or does it just stop loading stuff?
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      • craig__
        it just stops loading
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      • warp
        craig__: hm. different from http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/3503 then.
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      • craig__
        doesn't crash i can still save the albums that do get loaded
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      • warp
        craig__: sorry, it's not something I have heard about before. a quick search doesn't turn up anything in the bug tracker, can you please file a bug?
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      • Zharf
        zomg
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      • Zharf
        picard started responding
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      • craig__
        where do i file
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      • warp
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      • Zharf
        it actually saved all the files
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      • warp
        craig__: remember to add yourself to the 'cc:' list if you want updates on the ticket mailed to you :)
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      • craig__
        ok thanks
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      • Ithaqua
        pfff done editing for today
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      • Ithaqua
        time for a beer :D
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      • xlotlu
        Zharf: good to know, i'll load my collection then :D
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      • Zharf
        :)
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      • Muzzz
        CatCat: where was that tag stopping at D ticket thingy you had?
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      • Muzzz
        I think I've sussed out why it does it that
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      • Muzzz
        *-it
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      • nikki
        there's a limit of 50 items I thought
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      • Muzzz
        my $limit = ($show eq 'all') ? 10 : 100;
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      • nikki
        ah, close enough
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      • nikki
        did you ever figure out how to subscribe to multiple artists at once?
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      • Muzzz
        Nope, I gave up and went to bed
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      • Muzzz
        I was going to check the actual sauce to see what it had to say
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      • clarby
        hi! I'm trying to use the musicbrainz api (python) to get 'tags' off of artists, but I keep getting empty list/array of tags for artists that have tags on the web site.
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      • Muzzz
        clarby: what url you hitting up?
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      • clarby
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      • clarby
        q.getArtists(f)[0].artist.id gives me u'http://musicbrainz.org/artist/57961a97-3796…
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      • clarby
        and artist.getTags() is empty
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      • Muzzz
        Hmmm
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