#musicbrainz

/

      • CatCat
        pfft
      • 2008-05-05 12654, 2008

      • FauxFaux
        Amen to that.
      • 2008-05-05 12625, 2008

      • warp joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12651, 2008

      • ruaok_ joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12651, 2008

      • ruaok has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12627, 2008

      • pbryan
        creature: Yup.
      • 2008-05-05 12630, 2008

      • pbryan
        I am about.
      • 2008-05-05 12620, 2008

      • creature
        pbryan: As am I.
      • 2008-05-05 12622, 2008

      • pbryan
        I am about to leave for work though. ;)
      • 2008-05-05 12633, 2008

      • warp has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12636, 2008

      • warp joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12639, 2008

      • CatCat
      • 2008-05-05 12645, 2008

      • creature
        So, I have this Haydn disc. Symphony no. 100 and Symphony no. 101. I am having trouble figuring out the opus numbers for this.
      • 2008-05-05 12657, 2008

      • creature
        Or, if indeed they are even opus numbers, as they're the Hadoken catalogue or something.
      • 2008-05-05 12603, 2008

      • pbryan
        CatCat: lol
      • 2008-05-05 12615, 2008

      • pbryan
        Better than GTA IV!
      • 2008-05-05 12603, 2008

      • CatCat
        its so fun, becasue everytime i paly any of those games i am sop suck
      • 2008-05-05 12616, 2008

      • CatCat
        and now i dont Chuck norris ftw XD
      • 2008-05-05 12628, 2008

      • CatCat
        pbryan: \o/
      • 2008-05-05 12639, 2008

      • pbryan
        Wow, Sonic on second level.
      • 2008-05-05 12630, 2008

      • CatCat
        my fav was mario cart
      • 2008-05-05 12640, 2008

      • CatCat
        i suck at rasing games SO much
      • 2008-05-05 12613, 2008

      • creature
        pbryan: So any help you can give would be appreciated.
      • 2008-05-05 12619, 2008

      • pbryan
        creature: checking...
      • 2008-05-05 12624, 2008

      • pbryan
        Well, Hoboken did index them.
      • 2008-05-05 12649, 2008

      • pbryan
        H. 1/100 and H. 1/101.
      • 2008-05-05 12605, 2008

      • mikemorr has left the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12606, 2008

      • pbryan
        But, Symphony no. 100 and no. 101 are accepted symphony numbers in their own right.
      • 2008-05-05 12608, 2008

      • creature
        So, for instance, "Symphony No. 100 in G major, H. 1/100 "Military": I. Adagio - Allegro" ?
      • 2008-05-05 12610, 2008

      • pbryan
        I'm not sure the Hoboken catalog number adds value. Are there many releases in MB that have H. numbers?
      • 2008-05-05 12648, 2008

      • pbryan
        Checking around MB, I can't find one -- yet.
      • 2008-05-05 12608, 2008

      • creature
        So if I omit it, do I keep the comma after the key?
      • 2008-05-05 12618, 2008

      • pbryan
        Hmm.
      • 2008-05-05 12639, 2008

      • pbryan
        No comma either methinks.
      • 2008-05-05 12653, 2008

      • pbryan
        Scratch that.
      • 2008-05-05 12606, 2008

      • pbryan
        Symphony No. 100 in G major, "Military": I. Adagio - allegro.
      • 2008-05-05 12628, 2008

      • pbryan
        That would be my inclination.
      • 2008-05-05 12630, 2008

      • Creap has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12649, 2008

      • chefkoch has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12659, 2008

      • chefkoch joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12613, 2008

      • creature
        OK, I'll do it that way. Thanks.
      • 2008-05-05 12624, 2008

      • pbryan
      • 2008-05-05 12649, 2008

      • pbryan heads off to work...
      • 2008-05-05 12658, 2008

      • pbryan
        BBIAB...
      • 2008-05-05 12659, 2008

      • pbryan has left the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12626, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        is the XML service supposed to be 503 unavailable? i've been getting that from all requests for the past day or so =(
      • 2008-05-05 12641, 2008

      • outsidecontext has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12607, 2008

      • Creap joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12649, 2008

      • Keiron joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12629, 2008

      • Keiron pokes channel
      • 2008-05-05 12642, 2008

      • Keiron
        Anyone in the mood to help me figure out why Picard is 'splod'in on me?
      • 2008-05-05 12615, 2008

      • BrianFreud has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12617, 2008

      • pbryan joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12630, 2008

      • warp
        would a netlabel be considered a publisher?
      • 2008-05-05 12654, 2008

      • outsidecontext joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12618, 2008

      • inhouseuk has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12618, 2008

      • powelli has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12618, 2008

      • Magic8ball has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12621, 2008

      • snarlydwarf joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12606, 2008

      • Kerensky97 joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12630, 2008

      • inhouseuk joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12630, 2008

      • powelli joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12630, 2008

      • Magic8ball joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12650, 2008

      • pbryan
        And distributor?
      • 2008-05-05 12655, 2008

      • ruaok_
        ^^remilia^^: the 503 means you're asking for data too fast.
      • 2008-05-05 12604, 2008

      • ruaok_
        you need to wait 1 second between requests.
      • 2008-05-05 12613, 2008

      • ruaok_
        and you need to donate $100 for your atonement!
      • 2008-05-05 12618, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        i'm only making one request
      • 2008-05-05 12629, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        and i delay 3s between requests =(
      • 2008-05-05 12658, 2008

      • juhae
        warp, i can't see why not, if they use internet as a medium for publishing
      • 2008-05-05 12655, 2008

      • ruaok_
        if it gives you a 503, you're doing it too fast. period.
      • 2008-05-05 12659, 2008

      • ruaok_
        brb
      • 2008-05-05 12600, 2008

      • ruaok_ has quit
      • 2008-05-05 12608, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        hmm
      • 2008-05-05 12635, 2008

      • warp
        pbryan: yes, probably.
      • 2008-05-05 12609, 2008

      • warp finally fixed his scripts to not get 503s anymore :)
      • 2008-05-05 12624, 2008

      • pbryan
        userscripts?
      • 2008-05-05 12644, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        unless i'm mistaken, it had come up when my previous request had been days ago
      • 2008-05-05 12650, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        i'll have to make sure i'm not mistaken
      • 2008-05-05 12631, 2008

      • mikemorr joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12601, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        yeah, it's happening on the first request
      • 2008-05-05 12618, 2008

      • warp
        pbryan: no, some commandline thing in python which renames my files.
      • 2008-05-05 12618, 2008

      • pbryan
        Ah.
      • 2008-05-05 12602, 2008

      • warp
        ^^remilia^^: the blocking is on IP address, there's no other software running which makes requests to MB ? or using some proxy or NAT shared with a whole bunch of other ppl?
      • 2008-05-05 12639, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        NAT, but i'm pretty sure i'm the only person making MB requests =(
      • 2008-05-05 12619, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        neither of my roommates are interested in MB, and they're both out anyway
      • 2008-05-05 12656, 2008

      • warp
        ^^remilia^^: ok, then it IS weird.
      • 2008-05-05 12634, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        i wish i could just say "yeah! i'm making requests too often! i'll fix that"
      • 2008-05-05 12645, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        that would be nice and straightforward =(
      • 2008-05-05 12610, 2008

      • warp
        ^^remilia^^: can you give me the exact request url? i don't know if there could be anything weird about the request itself which triggers it, but that's easy to try :)
      • 2008-05-05 12621, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        hmm, gimme a sec
      • 2008-05-05 12633, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        i'll have to figure out why my debug build is not so debug
      • 2008-05-05 12640, 2008

      • warp
        hihi
      • 2008-05-05 12610, 2008

      • JordanC joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12600, 2008

      • Keiron has left the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12604, 2008

      • JordanC
        Hey there, does anyone here use Picard regularly?
      • 2008-05-05 12620, 2008

      • JordanC
        It seems to struggle getting album info when I click "tagger" on the musicbrainz website
      • 2008-05-05 12641, 2008

      • Muzzz
        Sounds fishy that
      • 2008-05-05 12603, 2008

      • Muzzz
        What with ^^remilia^^'s 503s too, sure it couldn't be an actual serverside issue? :/
      • 2008-05-05 12624, 2008

      • warp
        JordanC: old picard or picardqt?
      • 2008-05-05 12628, 2008

      • JordanC
        Picard
      • 2008-05-05 12640, 2008

      • JordanC
        Just using it on my gf's laptop now
      • 2008-05-05 12627, 2008

      • warp
        in that case, i recommend switching to PicardQT :)
      • 2008-05-05 12635, 2008

      • JordanC
        Can't, it's on windows warp
      • 2008-05-05 12641, 2008

      • warp
        JordanC: so?
      • 2008-05-05 12642, 2008

      • JordanC
        Or does it support windows?
      • 2008-05-05 12621, 2008

      • JordanC
        Meh, I'll check it :)
      • 2008-05-05 12621, 2008

      • warp
        yes, but it seems we're calling picardqt just 'Picard' nowadays, so maybe you have it already.
      • 2008-05-05 12658, 2008

      • JordanC
        Well, this one I'm using looks more like the windows app library
      • 2008-05-05 12623, 2008

      • Freso joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12635, 2008

      • warp
        JordanC: the green tagger button works by having the browser connect to picard, if that doesn't work, you can also try a drag & drop of the URL from the browser to picard. not sure if that works in the old picard, but it does in picardqt.
      • 2008-05-05 12659, 2008

      • JordanC
        Okay, I'll give it a try but musicbrainz.org is incredibly slow loading
      • 2008-05-05 12612, 2008

      • warp
        it often is for me too :(
      • 2008-05-05 12611, 2008

      • JordanC
        It took 13 minutes to load the Picard page :S
      • 2008-05-05 12627, 2008

      • warp
        yikes!
      • 2008-05-05 12648, 2008

      • JordanC
        The current ver i have sayus
      • 2008-05-05 12650, 2008

      • JordanC
        Version 0.9.0
      • 2008-05-05 12627, 2008

      • warp
        Ok, that's the current version of PicardQT.
      • 2008-05-05 12632, 2008

      • JordanC
        Okay :)
      • 2008-05-05 12633, 2008

      • ruaok joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12638, 2008

      • warp
        i should get used to not calling it QT
      • 2008-05-05 12606, 2008

      • JordanC
        Hehe :)
      • 2008-05-05 12607, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        oh, i think i see the problem
      • 2008-05-05 12620, 2008

      • JordanC
        It looks up the fingerprint, and then times out
      • 2008-05-05 12642, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        purely my fault, of course, but it was due to feeding my request filter an empty discid
      • 2008-05-05 12655, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        (rather than the suggested connection throttling)
      • 2008-05-05 12607, 2008

      • BrianFreud joined the channel
      • 2008-05-05 12642, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        yay, it works once again, thank you <3
      • 2008-05-05 12659, 2008

      • Freso
        BrianFreud!
      • 2008-05-05 12602, 2008

      • Freso
        CatCat: Ping?
      • 2008-05-05 12644, 2008

      • ruaok
        ^^remilia^^: please deposit $100
      • 2008-05-05 12654, 2008

      • Freso
        BrianFreud: Regarding your massive list of instruments on InstrumentAdditionDiscussion imported from Discogs... could I persuade you to take them and move them to InstrumentAdditionDiscussion/DiscogsImport or something like that?
      • 2008-05-05 12600, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        how about i deposit a foobar2000 plugin instead =D
      • 2008-05-05 12643, 2008

      • Freso
        BrianFreud: They really clutter up the page for the regular instrument additions, and there's no way we're going to just mass-add all of the Discogs instruments until we've figured out how to properly organise the tree.
      • 2008-05-05 12639, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        If there is a difference between the title in the liner notes and on the back of the album which would you go with?
      • 2008-05-05 12602, 2008

      • Freso
        Kerensky97: The one that seems more sensible or consistent.
      • 2008-05-05 12604, 2008

      • pbryan
        Kerensky97: I tend to go statistical.
      • 2008-05-05 12608, 2008

      • Freso
        Kerensky97: Check with websites etc.
      • 2008-05-05 12638, 2008

      • ^^remilia^^
        hopefully one of the two seems more intentional
      • 2008-05-05 12643, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        The back of the album is more consistant on the titles that were released on compilation albums.
      • 2008-05-05 12659, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        But not all tracks were reelased on compilation albums.
      • 2008-05-05 12611, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        The liner notes just expand on the title name.
      • 2008-05-05 12642, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        "Punk Guy" vs. "Punk Guy ('Cause He Does Punk Things)"
      • 2008-05-05 12641, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        The official website follows the back art. http://www.fatwreck.com/store/detail/Epitaph+86435
      • 2008-05-05 12604, 2008

      • Freso
        Kerensky97: In that case, I'd use the latter title, as that seems to be the more complete version.
      • 2008-05-05 12649, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        But the compliation album was just "Punk Guy"
      • 2008-05-05 12600, 2008

      • Freso
        Kerensky97: Just like I do "Set of Jigs: Jig 1 / Jig 2 / Jig 3 / Slipjig", even if the cover's back only say "Set of Jigs".
      • 2008-05-05 12610, 2008

      • Freso
        *says
      • 2008-05-05 12652, 2008

      • Kerensky97
        I'm undecided because while the liner notes are more complete, it goes against "Consistent Original Data" guideline, and assuming the official website counts as artist intent, the "Artist Intent" guideline as well.
      • 2008-05-05 12625, 2008

      • Freso
        You asked "which would you go with", and I've said what I'd do.