#musicbrainz

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hello, just want to ask...

if an artist makes a song that sounds very much like another song (but uses different instruments / has some differences), is that a cover, or a remix?

I guess it's a cover, since that's what all existing relationships look like

ultramage: I would say if they took the original song and edited it to sound different, it's a remix, if they listened to the song/read the music/whatever and played it themselves, it's a cover

hm

I'd need a definition of 'remix' to confirm that

It could be sampled too

there are numerous tracks already marked as 'cover' in there, and I doubt any are a perfect reproduction of the original work

But that's more dance and drum n bass type stuff

a cover doesn't need to be a perfect copy...

how could it be?

most of the bad covers try to be ;)

even so, different people will sing slightly different, different people will play instruments slightly different

at best the tracks have the same 'motive' as the original work... but apart from that there's all sorts of deviations like added lyrics, changed instruments, a guitar solo in the middle and such

"based on" would better express the relationship

by that definition nothing would ever be a cover :P

dunno, I'm not familiar with these terms ;)

sounds like a cover to me

alright~

well the covers I know of don't try and copy the original exactly, what would be the point in making an exact copy? people could just listen to the original if they wanted to listen to the original... I guess that means I don't listen to the bad covers MClemo knows of :P

welcome to the top 40

heh

"It sold once, let's get a boy band to do it Exactly! The! Same! and it'll sell again!"

*exactly the same, or as best as their whiny voices can handle. But don't worry, studio effects can take care of that for the most part

I can't really remember chart music, but even those covers sounded different to me... probably what Muzzz said :P

and the songs they pick to cover.. dear god

who's bright idea was it to get an r&b girl singer to cover 'country roads'

and who the hell bought that enough to get it on the charts

With the way the top 40 is going these days it's more "oh let's sample these 3 songs which were fine on their own back in the day"

they're into second generation sampling now

put some "uuuh, baby"'s in it too!

rihanna samples michael jackson that sampled someone else

i forget who, yllona would know heh

I think the post is, chart music is crap

:P

*popint is

*point

oh it's ok

I don't really follow the charts

like fast food

just don't expect a gourmet meal from it, and it's enough if you aren't really paying attention

I'm seriously inspired to do a 'best of MB' weekly blog post

rounding up the more ridiculous in-edit-note wars that most of you are missing :)

haha, that would be nice

only here could we generate 50 posts deciding if something is a mashup, a cover, a remix, sampling, or all of the above

deciding? usually there's no decision at the end ;)

or one i just found "If a band member says the viking runes on their covers are a logo, and their band name is in latin script.... let's not believe them and vote no on the edits anyway!"

is that tyr or something?

it is

how did I guess...

hehe, let me find the edit, let's just mash that one through

And it's Týr

oh no, it's baaaack, like a poltergeist

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we don't use logos... we'd have to implement pictures, fonts, colours and sizes too...

omg, muzz

well we do normally copy the cover...

(I must add, they're one of the most mundane bands to see live. And I've had the unfortunate experience of having to stand through it twice)

but if the artist says otherwise...

:))

i think the real kicker is if you go read the band members response

artist intent > *

it starts with 'your runes don't show up on my laptop but i assume you wrote the same runes as in our logo"

haha