just for making sure every field gets loaded is this fine
2008-10-14 28813, 2008
luks
LotR: thanks
2008-10-14 28814, 2008
VxJasonxV
I need to learn -D forwarding
2008-10-14 28821, 2008
Muzzz
"learn"?
2008-10-14 28822, 2008
VxJasonxV
I have Local and Remote forwarding down, but -D escapes me
2008-10-14 28826, 2008
VxJasonxV
learn and actually use
2008-10-14 28836, 2008
Muzzz
It's simply ssh -D <port> user [at host]
2008-10-14 28847, 2008
VxJasonxV
well, I know how to enter it
2008-10-14 28848, 2008
Muzzz
Then in whatever application whack in your SOCKS proxy as localhost:<port>
2008-10-14 28851, 2008
Muzzz
Simple \o/
2008-10-14 28855, 2008
VxJasonxV
figured.
2008-10-14 28803, 2008
VxJasonxV
Ok, so now I understand, thank you.
2008-10-14 28809, 2008
VxJasonxV
Now I just need to figure out if I have a need :P.
2008-10-14 28819, 2008
Muzzz
I find it useful for bypassing rapidshite IP download limiting
2008-10-14 28823, 2008
VxJasonxV
heh
2008-10-14 28832, 2008
Muzzz
Just keep tunnelling via a different host to get multipart RARs or whatever heh
2008-10-14 28841, 2008
VxJasonxV sighs @ usenet for the web
2008-10-14 28855, 2008
Muzzz
I torrented the best thing ever the other day
2008-10-14 28807, 2008
VxJasonxV
I'm thankful that I don't deal with that nonsense (Rapidshare, MegaUpload, etc.) anymore.
2008-10-14 28817, 2008
VxJasonxV
I have my own webserver/server and do whatever I Want with it \o/
2008-10-14 28822, 2008
VxJasonxV
Define: The Best Thing Ever
2008-10-14 28825, 2008
Muzzz
40 folders or so, each containing 1-5 ZIP files. Each ZIP file containined a RAR part, which contained the actual VST software
2008-10-14 28831, 2008
VxJasonxV
O_O
2008-10-14 28833, 2008
VxJasonxV
FFS
2008-10-14 28859, 2008
Muzzz
This was a torrent, why you have multipart RARs in a torrent is stupid, why you have each RAR part zipped is stupid too
2008-10-14 28801, 2008
VxJasonxV
they really needed to compress those rar's 10K more didn't they?
2008-10-14 28822, 2008
VxJasonxV
actually, multipart (split files in general) are better for torrenting than one huge file
2008-10-14 28829, 2008
VxJasonxV
ok that's not true
2008-10-14 28833, 2008
VxJasonxV
they /can/ be better
2008-10-14 28840, 2008
luks
hm, why?
2008-10-14 28841, 2008
Muzzz
Not always when you consider the files the archives contained
2008-10-14 28853, 2008
VxJasonxV
because there's a greater chance of chunks being identical
2008-10-14 28859, 2008
VxJasonxV
maybe, I could be talking out of my ass
2008-10-14 28806, 2008
Muzzz
And even then I'm not convinced, torrenting is downloading in parts as it is so huge files are fine
2008-10-14 28811, 2008
Muzzz
O.o
2008-10-14 28812, 2008
luks
I don't think a hude compressed file will have identical chunks
2008-10-14 28813, 2008
LotR
how can it be better to uselessly stick the files into another file?
2008-10-14 28815, 2008
luks
huge
2008-10-14 28827, 2008
VxJasonxV
I don't mean the Zipped rars are a good idea
2008-10-14 28846, 2008
VxJasonxV
my train of thought is always that if you could torrent one iso, or a 30 rar part span of the iso, it's better to go with the rar parts
2008-10-14 28849, 2008
LotR
I think you *are* talking out of your arse
2008-10-14 28851, 2008
VxJasonxV
again, because of chunking and all that
2008-10-14 28851, 2008
Muzzz
VxJasonxV: woo, so you potentially save downloaded a tiny part, but then spend an age unarchiving it all
2008-10-14 28853, 2008
VxJasonxV
I probably am :D
2008-10-14 28824, 2008
Muzzz
People should man the fuck up and not multipart RAR files intended for torrens
2008-10-14 28829, 2008
luks
well, iso is a special case as it's completely uncompressed
2008-10-14 28841, 2008
luks
what most people download on torrent are heavily compressed files :)
2008-10-14 28843, 2008
Muzzz
luks, in which case a single archive would be fine
2008-10-14 28848, 2008
luks
right
2008-10-14 28813, 2008
VxJasonxV shrugs
2008-10-14 28815, 2008
VxJasonxV
k, I'm just crazy
2008-10-14 28822, 2008
Muzzz
Yes, yes you are :P
2008-10-14 28826, 2008
LotR
so how much does an iso compress when you zip/rar it?
2008-10-14 28833, 2008
luks
depends on the contents
2008-10-14 28839, 2008
LotR
1% 5% 10%?
2008-10-14 28851, 2008
luks
an iso of zeroed files compresses pretty well :)
2008-10-14 28842, 2008
LotR
well, I would hope there'd be useful content in my ISO
2008-10-14 28800, 2008
FauxFaux
LotR: A full iso is basically a concatenation of the files, so, basically, not at all, assuming the contents are already compressed.
2008-10-14 28843, 2008
LotR
FauxFaux: right, and the usual content on an iso isn't *that* compressable, right?
2008-10-14 28815, 2008
FauxFaux
YOUR QUESTION MAKES NO SENSE
2008-10-14 28818, 2008
FauxFaux
Ahem.
2008-10-14 28854, 2008
LotR
what, like there isn't a most common type of content for torrented ISOs?
2008-10-14 28811, 2008
LotR
I mean linux distributions of course :)
2008-10-14 28820, 2008
Muzzz shakes his head
2008-10-14 28822, 2008
FauxFaux
Well, software occasionally has hillariously poor ocmpression, unless it's a game or a linux distro.
2008-10-14 28801, 2008
FauxFaux
Having said that, NFSMW has about 900mb of 24bit 9billionhz wav on that compresses quite well, 'cos they're retards.
2008-10-14 28826, 2008
LotR
NFSMW?
2008-10-14 28840, 2008
luks
24bit audio in a game?
2008-10-14 28843, 2008
FauxFaux
It's a game.
2008-10-14 28853, 2008
FauxFaux
For the music, no less.
2008-10-14 28809, 2008
Muzzz
Need for Speed Most Wanted
2008-10-14 28820, 2008
FauxFaux
I'm pretty sure I mean that one, not at my machine right now.
2008-10-14 28820, 2008
Muzzz
Wiggatastic
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aCiD2
"TODO This should be a trigger if we ever get a real DB" lol? I wonder how old that comment is
2008-10-14 28835, 2008
FauxFaux
Hee hee.
2008-10-14 28843, 2008
FauxFaux
svn praise it!
2008-10-14 28846, 2008
aCiD2
:P
2008-10-14 28802, 2008
Muzzz
*svn blame
2008-10-14 28810, 2008
Muzzz
Blaaaame
2008-10-14 28834, 2008
LotR
you mean git blame. aCiD2 wisely shuns svn :)
2008-10-14 28840, 2008
MClemo
svn is totally unusable!!!!!!11
2008-10-14 28832, 2008
Muzzz has cravigns for HOT BEEF
2008-10-14 28832, 2008
aCiD2
:P
2008-10-14 28839, 2008
aCiD2
you can hot my beef
2008-10-14 28847, 2008
Muzzz
omnomnomnom
2008-10-14 28812, 2008
Muzzz
But if I log out of WoW to go cook beef I'll lose my Voidwalker :(
2008-10-14 28817, 2008
luks
aCiD2: I bet it's from the MB-on-MySQL time :)
2008-10-14 28856, 2008
aCiD2
:)
2008-10-14 28801, 2008
aCiD2
didn't even there was that!
2008-10-14 28843, 2008
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aCiD2
luks, ruaok: Is MB::S::Artist->Insert not meant to be called directly or something? It keeps throwing "Do called without BeginTransaction or AutoCommit" for me
2008-10-14 28858, 2008
ruaok
you need to open a transaction before calling it.
2008-10-14 28802, 2008
FauxFaux
Maybe you should begintransactionfirst. ¬_¬
2008-10-14 28810, 2008
ruaok
the idea is that you never mod the DB without being in a transaction.
2008-10-14 28827, 2008
aCiD2
ruaok: right, but why should I have to open the transaction before calling Insert, shouldn't Insert handle that?
2008-10-14 28845, 2008
aCiD2
Same with SearchEngine->AddRefs
2008-10-14 28858, 2008
aCiD2
FauxFaux: well duh, but I'm just wondering why Insert doesn't do that itself
2008-10-14 28808, 2008
ruaok
no. even insert has the same assumption.
2008-10-14 28828, 2008
ruaok
the modbot opens transactions and commits them if the insert/artist-insert go well.
2008-10-14 28830, 2008
warp
because the transaction might consist of multiple inserts or updates?
2008-10-14 28838, 2008
aCiD2
ok, I see
2008-10-14 28839, 2008
warp is just guessing :)
2008-10-14 28844, 2008
FauxFaux
I expect insert simply doesn't error check for you?
2008-10-14 28853, 2008
aCiD2
so the client is responsible for beginning the transaction, gotcha
2008-10-14 28856, 2008
FauxFaux
Oh, or, maybe.
2008-10-14 28820, 2008
aCiD2
FauxFaux: error checking what? It checks it has enough info to do the commit, but doesn't check it actually commited
2008-10-14 28828, 2008
ruaok
insert is nothing but error checkls. :)
2008-10-14 28834, 2008
warp
haha
2008-10-14 28800, 2008
ruaok
but it assumes that a transaction is open
2008-10-14 28802, 2008
aCiD2
ruaok, I think I found a way to do testing as well with DBD::Mock
2008-10-14 28809, 2008
aCiD2
had a play with it while I was waiting for a lecture :)
looks quite similar to what we do atm, what are the major differences?
2008-10-14 28831, 2008
luks
there is no artist->insert
2008-10-14 28834, 2008
aCiD2
my changes atm have taken stuff like "Insert" "SelectArtistsByName" out of the object level and into the package level
2008-10-14 28844, 2008
luks
the code for handling DB and for model are separate
2008-10-14 28856, 2008
aCiD2
ie, $artist->Insert becomes MB::S::Artist->Insert, in my branch
2008-10-14 28804, 2008
aCiD2
is that what you mean?
2008-10-14 28810, 2008
luks
yes
2008-10-14 28821, 2008
aCiD2
yea, that's def needed, only just started getting round to doing the changes
2008-10-14 28825, 2008
luks
well, except that I'd prefer it to be in a separate package
2008-10-14 28836, 2008
aCiD2
Like MB::S::Model::Artist? :P
2008-10-14 28840, 2008
luks
and $artist should not know about $dbh
2008-10-14 28844, 2008
aCiD2
right
2008-10-14 28827, 2008
aCiD2
well what I'm doing atm (only started this today, though it's been on my mind a while) is making all DB calls package level, and they accept $dbh... should I go the route of introducing a context?
2008-10-14 28833, 2008
aCiD2
or could we not just use MusicBrainz.pm for that
2008-10-14 28803, 2008
luks
they need more than $dbh
2008-10-14 28803, 2008
aCiD2
(doing $dbh atm because it lets me switch between DBD::Mock and DBD::Pg)
2008-10-14 28811, 2008
aCiD2
mmm? like what?
2008-10-14 28820, 2008
luks
they might need $dbh to the raw DB
2008-10-14 28829, 2008
aCiD2
ah, true
2008-10-14 28833, 2008
luks
cache shouldn't be a global variable, so alsosomething liek $cache
2008-10-14 28851, 2008
luks
which would also help testing a lot
2008-10-14 28853, 2008
aCiD2
ok
2008-10-14 28830, 2008
aCiD2
glad I'm thinking in the same direction as you (for once :P)
2008-10-14 28842, 2008
luks
btw, what is the roadmap for the TT branch you have set with ruaok?
