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      • gioele
        hi
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      • gioele
        is it possible to write to the -devel mailing list without being a subscriber?
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      • FauxFaux
        I expect not, given how little spam it gets.
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      • FauxFaux
        Unless someone moderates it or something.
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      • aCiD2
        I could post on behalf of you, if you wanted gioele
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      • gioele
        thank you aCiD2, but I think I'll subscribe anyway
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      • aCiD2
        sure thing
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      • Cord
        jo :)
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      • hawke_
        Hmm...the AR display for covers (song versions, not album art) is almost totally useless. :-/
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      • hawke_
        "Foo is covered by foo, foo, foo, foo, foo, foo"
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      • hawke_
        can anyone tell me if "Crosscut saw" on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_Under_a_Bad_Sign is a cover?
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      • hawke_
        or is that just a writing credit
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      • Wizzcat
        hard to say
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      • Wizzcat
        google doesn't turn up anything obvious so I'd say leave it
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      • hawke_
        I agree.
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      • hawke_
        I'm actually adding an AR from another album
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      • hawke_
        (cover AR)
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      • hawke_
        and trying to make sure it's going to the right place
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      • outsidecontext
        hi ruaok :)
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      • ruaok
        hi
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      • ruaok
        wie gehts?
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      • Wizzcat
        oh like so
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      • outsidecontext
        sorry for not being around all the time
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      • outsidecontext
        gut
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      • outsidecontext
        i visited prague this weekend
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      • ruaok
        how was it? I've never been...
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      • Wizzcat
        hawke_: maybe add an annotation to the song that you're not 100% sure if it's correct
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      • hawke_
        would be nice if searches displayed the earliest release alongside the album
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      • outsidecontext
        prague is very nice. great old town, a lot of clubs, great beer
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      • ruaok
        I keep hearing that too. :)
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      • outsidecontext
        but too many german and british idiots there
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      • ruaok wants to go
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      • outsidecontext
        well, maybe we were just another group of german idiots, but anyway :)
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      • ruaok
        lol
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      • outsidecontext
        beside that i'm still pretty busy, but it's getting easier now
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      • ruaok
        lol. gmail drunk mailing feature.
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      • ruaok
        as long as you have time for the summit. :)
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      • outsidecontext
        i have :)
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      • outsidecontext
        must have
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      • Wizzcat
        ruaok: I need one for irc and facebook too :|
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      • Cord
        Wizzcat: use a passwordlocked screensaver which comes alive after one minute... choose a complicated password. works for me.
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      • drsaunde
        hawke_: Crosscut Saw there is indeed a cover, originally released in 1940 by Sam Chatmon
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      • drsaunde
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      • hawke_
        christ.
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      • hawke_
        Thanks.
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      • hawke_
        I knew you'd be there to correct me shortly. :-D
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      • hawke_
        now to wait the eleventy minutes while the edit is cancelled. :-/
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      • Cord
        hello? discogs?
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      • Wizzcat
        the originals, now that's fancy! *bookmark*
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      • drsaunde
        fancy, very helpful and quite accurate
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      • hawke_
        Now the question is, to where shall I link it?
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      • Wizzcat
        track down the release and add it! that's the fun bit :)
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      • drsaunde
        the label (Bluebird) is provided too...shouldn't be hard...one sec
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      • hawke_
        http://www.wirz.de/music/chatmfrm.htm has it on "Blue Goose records" from 197x ... but that's obviously a later release
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      • hawke_
        hrm, "made twelve recordings (ten of which were issued) for Bluebird as the Chatman [sic] Brothers"
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      • hawke_
        At that point I'm pretty stuck though. Can't find anything for what those recordings might be.
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      • Wizzcat
        apparantly it was recorded by tommy mclennan in 1940 on bluebird, so presumably it must've been before that
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      • drsaunde
        The Mclennan recording is 1941 (found that)..still looking for the other one
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      • Cord
        . o O ( an AR stating a relationship between bands would also be nice, Band A is the successor of Band B or something. )
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      • drsaunde
        i couldn't find any evidence of a 1940 Chatmon recording anywhere (by him or his various bands with his brothers)... other sources list the Mclennan version as the original.. maybe we should go with that
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      • Kerensky97
        cord: ALOT of people want that.
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      • hawke_
        drsaunde: sounds good to me.
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      • Wizzcat
        Kerensky97: btw, what happened to your RFC
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      • Kerensky97
        I don't know, I mostly just suggested it because ruaok said to mention it in mbstyle. But apparently it doesn't let me post there any more.
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      • ruaok shrugs
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      • Kerensky97
        I think it's because I dropped my subscription to the list.
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      • ruaok
        hmmm. its fall in california. 28C at noon.
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      • Wizzcat
        it seemed rather similar to EarlierReleaseOf to me though
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      • Kerensky97
        But we can't use existing ARs.
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      • Kerensky97
        That's the point.
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      • Wizzcat
        won't ERO be redundant if/when we get release clustering though?
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      • Wizzcat
        or wait, remasters.. hmm
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      • Wizzcat
        oh well, I'll leave it to smarter people :>
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      • Kerensky97
        I think alot of those ARs kind of overlap now as it is.
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      • hawke_
        drsaunde: do you want to point me at the Mclennan release so I can add it, or do you want to add it yourself and point me to it so I can add the AR?
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      • drsaunde
        ok one sec
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      • ruaok ponders the name "data porn" for the upcoming releases/recently deceseased page
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      • drsaunde
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      • Muzzz
        ?lookup artist Almah
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      • Muzzz
        Go go ponies...
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      • Muzzz
        hmmm, n o bot actually
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      • Muzzz
        ?lookup artist Almah
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      • hawke_
        drsaunde: thanks
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      • ruaok
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      • CatCat
        wtf does zeitgeist mean?
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      • CatCat
        [13:00] warp srotta: knowing two languages, if one of them is more fit to express a concept, why should I limit myself to the other language when I know the listener understands both? <-- I agrees
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      • CatCat
        i have that going all the time
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      • CatCat
        both ways
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      • juhae
        Zeitgeist
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      • juhae
        n : the spirit of the time; the spirit characteristic of an age or generation [syn: Zeitgeist]
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      • CatCat
        i talk norwegian and suddenly i dunno a word so i use an english.
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      • CatCat
        as you can see here in irc, i do the opposite quite a much as well
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      • CatCat
        uh, zeitgeist doesnt fit at all then
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      • CatCat
        what's wrong with "trivia"?
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      • juhae
        just before you asked, i was about to say how zeitgeist is prolly another bad name for the page
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      • CatCat
        seriousyl. it's trivia, whats wrong with trivia?
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      • ruaok
        I don't like it. that's one reason. :)
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      • CatCat
        if that's the only reason, no offence, but it's a bad one
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      • CatCat
        the only other i can think of is "stats"
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      • ruaok
        trivia: matters or things that are very unimportant, inconsequential, or nonessential; trifles; trivialities.
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      • ruaok
        upcoming releases are not meaningless.
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      • CatCat
        to me trivia means "interesting to know, but not vital to your exsistance"
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      • CatCat
        trivia originates fro mthe word trivial, but its colloquious name has evolved from that to mean point of interest
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      • CatCat
        in a way doing a 180
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      • CatCat
        in meaning
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      • CatCat
        fux0r about with pretend latin and call it "intrivida"
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      • CatCat
        "not trivial"
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      • hawke_
        I don't think that's true. Trivia still means unimportant.
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      • CatCat
        yes. and no
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      • hawke_
        "interesting stuff that doesn't matter"
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      • CatCat
        like a brand name it has a secondary meaning
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      • hawke_
        example?
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      • CatCat
        almost all sites that has such a page use it as a name for it
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      • CatCat
        henche why it coems up again. hench "colloquism"
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      • warp
        hello!
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      • CatCat
        hi warp!
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