zeno__: do you have frequently several instances of picard running?
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LotR
zeno__: how is that a picard issue?
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zeno__
outsidecontext: one at the moment but have had a lot of crashes
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zeno__
LotR: maybe not i dont know how it works
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outsidecontext
because if you open a second picard it will listen on a different port. the green buttons will still point to the first picard instance and if you close that the buttons obviously don't work anymore
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luks
I'm thinking we should have a javascript that tries more than one port until it find one that works
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outsidecontext
good idea
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luks
that way we can have it on the website without depending on picard
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milosz
welll there's the somewhat theoretical issue that some people might not want to have their machines probed
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zeno__
outsidecontext: so how to fix? restarting firefox doesnt help
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outsidecontext
making a new lookup from inside picard
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milosz
also it sounds somewhat odd to me, i mean how much ports wouold you want to try? 20, 50, or 100? it's arbitrary
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luks
milosz: if we define a range of e.g. 5 ports, I don't see why not
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LotR
yeah, trying ports till you find one sounds bad
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milosz
luks, hmm right
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milosz
i was thinking of it more wildly heh
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outsidecontext
zeno__: you have to do a lookup with picard in order to tell the website the port picard is listening on
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luks
it's not like I'm going to implement mmap in javascript :)
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outsidecontext
i don't see a problem with a few defined ports scanned on localhost
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LotR wonders why people would have multiple instances of picard running anyway
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luks
most of the time it will be the first try anyway
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zeno__
LotR: when it crashes
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luks
LotR: sometimes it crashes, sometimes they close it and open in a short time
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luks
it takes some for the port to become open again
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LotR
I think I'd rather see picard complaining about how it couldn't bind to its port
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luks
there is no 'the picard port'
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luks
oh, you mean from picard
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luks
what if the picard port is used by something else
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luks
that would mean you can't use picard
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LotR
that would mean you'd configure it or 'something else' differently
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zeno__
hitting lookup doesnt open the browser :\ however hitting report bug, upload cluster, etc does
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luks
there is more lookup buttons
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luks
don't use the toolbox one for this
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zeno__
luks: ah that works :) assumed they did same
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LotR
luks: why are there several? wouldn't it make sense to have a single one that falls back to 'open browser window' when it can't find an exact match?
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LotR
also, what use is the one on the left?
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luks
because you might want to look up the original metadata
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LotR
hmm? you get the original on the right too, no?
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LotR
and why are the fields on the left editable?
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LotR
oh, they're not anymore
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luks
they never were editable
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luks
on the right you have the new metadata
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luks
what does it contain depends on the state
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luks
if you have a matched file it will most likely not be the original metadata
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LotR
I've never seen differences between the two when I have a file in the unmatched/clusters view selected. that's what I meant by 'you get the original on the right too'
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zeno__
is there a keyboard shortcut listing for picard somewhere? no luck /w google
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luks
no, I'm not good at documenting things
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zeno__
luks: just downloaded the source, will hack and document this weekend :)
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luks
cool :)
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Wizzcat
what's the significance of vinyls tha thave sides A and AA as opposed to A and B?
that's actually a pretty bad explanation. It's basically where they think both sides are actually decent music
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Wizzcat
so I guess I have to include all titles in the title then? :|
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srotta
These days people seem to think you always have to include everything.
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srotta
:<
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srotta
Ok, that's not true, but I'm annoyed by those split titles.
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Wizzcat
I don't like it either, but it's hard to know when you have virtually no release data to go by except the track list
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aCiD2
Wizzcat: you mean A / B release titles?
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aCiD2
that happens when there is no discernable release title (ie, blank sleeve - or the cover places equal emphasis on both track names)
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Wizzcat
aCiD2: I know, hence my query in regards to A/AA
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russss
double-A sides will conventionally appear in the singles charts with both titles
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aCiD2
Wizzcat: right
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russss
so I guess MB should be the same in this case
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aCiD2
I don't do it on how the named the tracks (ie, I have tracks number X and Y, or just "this" and "that")
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Wizzcat
only problem is it's three titles, and not just two, ugh
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gioele
hi
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gioele
is there a way to use picard (and its algorithms) from the command line or from python?
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gioele
I'd like to automate certain operations that Picard can do via the gui
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MBChatLogger
Yes! There is hope!
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ruaok
waga poly obama!
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warp
gioele: i'd like that too. i don't think the current codebase is ready for that though, a lot of stuff seems fairly tied to the GUI.
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warp
gioele: atleast that was my impression when I looked at it some time ago. I was hoping to reuse bits without having QT as a dep, so perhaps it is not so much tied to the GUI, but tied to QT. it's been a while since I looked into it :)
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aCiD2
bah what a slow day today
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ruaok
in what terms?
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ruaok
coding?
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gioele
I wouldn't IRC with my boss
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aCiD2
yes, coding :)
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aCiD2
tis requiring too much thinking :(
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gioele
(but I doubt IRC can be used as a verb)
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ruaok
gioele: its in his contract that he has to IRC. :-)
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aCiD2
oh ruaok, you want me to send last weeks worklog?
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ruaok
please do.
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aCiD2
ok, will email shortly
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ruaok
but we agreed that I'd pay the first time come November, right?
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ruaok
unless that's a big problem for you...
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aCiD2
no big problem
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ruaok
ok, we did start very late in Oct...
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aCiD2
Sept*
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aCiD2
:)
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BrianG
anyone have the sBACH cd?
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BrianG
i'm curious about the track titles
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BrianG
"track 1" or "track 01" or "1" or "01"
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gioele
byq
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CatCat
guys. when *is* the american presidental electino anyway?
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Wizzcat
november something
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FauxFaux
Couple of months.
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FauxFaux
Whut.
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CatCat
whut
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Wizzcat
4th it seems
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CatCat
4th nov?
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FauxFaux
Okay, now only a month. :)
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Wizzcat
yep, so a month
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CatCat
FauxFaux: is broken?
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FauxFaux is frequently broken.
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CatCat
yes, so is you mbreports to hicker
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CatCat
dohicker
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CatCat
so its no the 4th november, ja?
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ruaok
ja
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FauxFaux
CatCat: Linux has remembersed that it's shit and doesn't believe in wireless again.
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CatCat
FauxFaux: :(
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CatCat
hi inhouse!
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FauxFaux hard reboots it and it seems to be up now.
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CatCat is using the autumnvacation for lazying around playing videogames <3
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CatCat
FauxFaux: \o/
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aCiD2
god damn, git add --interactive. I love you.
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warp probably wouldn't.
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aCiD2
heh
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aCiD2
I use it to review my work before commiting (and splitting commits into separate more concise commits)
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warp
i don't normally need to do such splitting, having already comitted such parts.
