aCiD2: no, I mean that mb_server has inherited a lot of stupid things over the time
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luks
aCiD2: I can think of 4 ways to convert an album to VA
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Freso
The 2007 mixtape is, unfortunately, not as well documented with regards to artists as the 2008 was/is. :/
2008-10-06 28053, 2008
luks
aCiD2: just implementing one that covers most cases (the release editor) would be my priority
2008-10-06 28014, 2008
aCiD2
Oh, I see what you mean
2008-10-06 28037, 2008
aCiD2
maybe I'll take a step away from the edit types tomorrow, and do more refactoring work
2008-10-06 28002, 2008
Freso
Refactoring == <3
2008-10-06 28051, 2008
aCiD2
also need to work out how to test this framework
2008-10-06 28026, 2008
Muzzz
monkeys
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Muzzz
lots f them
2008-10-06 28050, 2008
aCiD2 hires Muzzz for 0.00/per hour
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aCiD2
80 hours a week
2008-10-06 28001, 2008
Muzzz
10 dorrar
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Vlet
Hey folks, I'm playing around with the xml feed, and despite having read TracksWithMultipleArtists, I just want to verify that a <track> will never have more than one <artist> .. yes?
2008-10-06 28027, 2008
luks
for now that's correct
2008-10-06 28041, 2008
luks
but never say never :)
2008-10-06 28035, 2008
Freso
<3 to whomever makes it possible for a track to have more than one artist! (So we can clear up in the "Foo & Bar" artists...)
2008-10-06 28038, 2008
Vlet
That sounds like a hint towards future MB schema having more than one artists/track ;)
2008-10-06 28040, 2008
aCiD2
luks: on a more general level, I know SoC finished and you probably haven't followed much of my work... but do you think I'm still going in the right direction?
2008-10-06 28051, 2008
aCiD2
ie, copying and rewriting features from the MusicBrainz site into my site
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luks
Vlet: it would involve more than adding <artist> entries, so yes, you can be sure that with the current XML schema there will be only one
2008-10-06 28032, 2008
Vlet
Thanks; for now, my parser will rely on that, but I think I may wipe my artist field and create a track_artists table for my application ;)
2008-10-06 28041, 2008
luks
aCiD2: I don't agree with that completely
2008-10-06 28007, 2008
aCiD2
feel free to expand :)
2008-10-06 28008, 2008
luks
aCiD2: as I said, there is a lot of things wrong, duplicated, etc.
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aCiD2
i know
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aCiD2
I've been changing some of that (like returning objects instead of ids and stuff)
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luks
so I don't see the point in implementing those
2008-10-06 28039, 2008
luks
I mean more on the UI level
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aCiD2
oh, at the user level, right
2008-10-06 28017, 2008
luks
porting things at the code level is probably the best way to go
2008-10-06 28053, 2008
luks
but I'd reduce the user side to the required minimum
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aCiD2
mostly what I'm doing, but I do need a usable interface by january ;)
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aCiD2
ok
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luks
which is exactly the reason why you shouldn't implement all that
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aCiD2
yup
2008-10-06 28004, 2008
aCiD2
i think the only important ones I need now are "Edit All Tracks" and "Edit Release Events", then I'm pretty much done on this section
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CatCat
[17:10] Freso <3 to whomever makes it possible for a track to have more than one artist! (So we can clear up in the "Foo & Bar" artists...)
you can get barcodes from amazon, but it's somewhat more convoluted
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zeno_
ok one last q: what script is this? 森 オッサン チョイチョイ キリキリまい
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FauxFaux
Foriegn.
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FauxFaux
Kanji, right?
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Wizzcat
yep
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milosz
yeah
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zeno_
so han (kanji) or kanja/kana?
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^^remili1^^
kanji/kana
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zeno_
cool thx
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jcazevedo
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Wizzcat wishes there was stat graph for editors
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inhouseuk
what sort of stats?
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Wizzcat
you know, edits over a certain period, what kind of edits, etc.
2008-10-06 28024, 2008
Wizzcat
just thinking about it while looking at cord, would save me having to randomly parse his edit log :p
2008-10-06 28038, 2008
Wizzcat
plus it'd be fun for my own sake
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^^remili1^^
^^remili1^^ is now known as ^^remilia^^
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inhouseuk
you'd require the moderations tables (which are large), but it'd be fairly easy to produce a report
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Wizzcat
one more thing I don't have any time to actually code, oh well :|
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inhouseuk knows how that feels!
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FauxFaux
Stats are pretty.
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Wizzcat
we'll see if I ever manage to install mbz locally, tried it the other day but the instructinos were cryptic to say the least
2008-10-06 28045, 2008
Wizzcat
perl deps all over the floor
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FauxFaux
inhouseuk: Iirc the moderation data isn't replecated, either.
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FauxFaux
Replicated.
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FauxFaux
Wizzcat: I managed it, can't be that hard.
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FauxFaux
Or you could download the vm. :)
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LotR
Wizzcat: just don't install the website and it's easy :)
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FauxFaux
That's true.
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inhouseuk
FauxFaux: correct, they arn't replicated
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Wizzcat
so it's plain impossible? duh
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Wizzcat
or I guess I could make fake edits by myself :p
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FauxFaux
Well, you could rape bandwidth and re-import every night. :p
2008-10-06 28039, 2008
FauxFaux
Or you could write the code and get it committed.
2008-10-06 28046, 2008
LotR
Wizzcat: you can still code against the slightly-out-of-date snapshot
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Wizzcat
oh you mean I can download it just not update?
2008-10-06 28002, 2008
inhouseuk
yup
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Wizzcat
cause I don't care about that bit
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LotR
FauxFaux: heh, the b/w raping briefly crossed my mind ;)
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FauxFaux
Well, you do, if you want current stats. I mean, you can't host it yourself and use serious languages.
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nikki
I still think the moderation data should be split into smaller files... there's no point redownloading data from several years ago because it never changes
2008-10-06 28039, 2008
FauxFaux was going to do some stuff tonight. ¬_¬
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FauxFaux
Sharding.
2008-10-06 28022, 2008
FauxFaux
nikki: Heh, can you resume the download?
2008-10-06 28024, 2008
LotR
also, I don't think it's that hard to fake part of the moderation data by analyzing the replication packets. not votes and stuff, but what gets changed when at least
Well, you may need to drop the last meg or so to get the synch right.
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FauxFaux goes to test.
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LotR
FauxFaux: but it's a tarball with replication packet type files in it, no? the individual files grow, and you could resume that, but when they're in a tarball, not everything gets added to the end
2008-10-06 28042, 2008
FauxFaux
Ah, I assumed it was just one big file single table.
2008-10-06 28024, 2008
LotR
the replication packets at least have two files that both have part of the data for each update
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FauxFaux
Bah.
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LotR
FauxFaux: can you import the moderation tables seperately from the other tables?
2008-10-06 28003, 2008
FauxFaux
I never understood the database import, I'm just so fucking happy when it's worked and I never want to see it again.
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LotR
hehe
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inhouseuk laughs
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LotR
did you have that much trouble with it?
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nikki
I think you can...
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nikki hasn't imported for months and months though
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FauxFaux
Yes, yes I did. :p
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inhouseuk
I believe the db snapshots are very similar to sql COPY output
2008-10-06 28038, 2008
LotR will wait with trying to import the moderation till he started actual coding on the other stuff he's thinking about
2008-10-06 28021, 2008
inhouseuk
I think I need to write to the authors of ExpressRip. They're sending a large number of useless requests to the freedb gateway
