#musicbrainz

XD

we totally need to support WTF-16

acid2: how can I tell what svn rev my git-svn repo corresponds to?

good question!

git-svn info

does git-svn info do it

bluh

:P

we finally found the problem!

because the session is used in Root.pm begin/end it autovivify's the session into being.

ahhh, yes, we need to split that Root.pm stuff out

already on your list of things todo?

cuz once that goes away, then my issues are solved.

not on any formal list, heh

and its not a big problem.

two more loose ends to tie up.

sweet

woah. they refused my chocolate offer and demanded documentation instead.

yea, they are serious about getting documentation, heh

catalyst?

aye

yet there are some serious gaps in their docs.

because they are the devs, so don't know about the gaps

I guess there are serious gaps in my chocolate collection too.

ruaok: have you seen the "you aren't good enough video"?

heh. they wanted to give me svn commit so i could commit the doc changes.

it describes there philosophy really well

trusting folks.

no. plz to link.

is that no you don't want a link?

or no, you want a link :P

plz to link.

k u can haz link

but i can hz google first

no FULL STOP plz to link.

wasn't english your first lang? :)

argh

wrong video

http://yapc.tv/2008/ye/lt/lt1-12-trout-arent-go... that's the one

gah. closed wrong tab again.

link again plz?

wow. spaz.

mental yea

he lives 10 mins from me too xD

i found out on #catalyst anyway, heh

I'll watch it later tonight.

gtg for now.

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ruaok / acid2 / etc: quickie ES UI mockup: http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/brianfreud...

thoughts? Click the text identifier to have it scroll just that bit into view, click it again to hide it (or click a different one to have the 1st one hide and the 2nd scroll into view)?

GOD DAMNIT. IF I TYPE "lolcalhost" one more time, I'm gonna kill someone

I like that, much better than displaying the whole thing and _then_ picking which module you want.

Well, I don't like the gray borders, are the gradient showing in the tab bar - but otherwise, that looks good

aCiD2: just map lolcalhost to 127.0.0.1 :P

I basically skipped 99% of the discussion that took place, but I did see something being said about removing the credits module, is that happening? What was the verdict on that?

heh

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nikki: haven't made that mistake, yet >.>

I also typo "made" to "bad" a lot, and "database" to "databes"

I usually write things like screenshits or screensnots

navap: The credits module cannot be removed.

Okay

It can, however, (and should) be relocated within the site itself, to a general (not just ES/js) credits page.

and I always leave 'not' out at exactly the wrong moments

loool, screenshits

er that's actually what I meant. I was refering to it being moved elsewhere.

yes, that page just doesn't currently exist

It should be a /doc/ page

so wiki.musicbrainz.org

it should probably also be a transcluded page then

Hmm, "Additional Credits"?

How about just Credits, and list everything by everyone?

well, the other part would be the MB stuff, which would be on About MusicBrainz, right?

http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/ticket/72#comment:5 thought?

aCiD2: I asked about that a couple of months ago, people seemed to agree with wontfixing it

I would agree with not showing it everywhere.

closing then

I think the best "Credit' pages we have are http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainzBio and http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainzContributors

I think it should always show on releases though - it always annoyed me that annotations were only visible/editable in one particular release view.

that's one of the reasons I use the annotation bar in the release which everyone hates :P when converting annotations to relationships, I can edit the annotation straight from the relationships page instead of having to load the album again

I use it too, when it's functional :P

it's among the buggiest bars on the live server though :P

i do not know of this bar

acid2: user prefs, Show the add/edit annotation links in the release header.

oh, brilliant

I've apparently got university work due in tomorrow

that I have no clue about

brianfreud: oh? in what way?

nikki: the links are broken when you access them from the voting page

or at least, they were last I tried it

oh, I never use them from the voting page

time to plop into bed

nn!

nn

aCiD2 / pronik / ruaok / CatCat / nikki / etc - I have an idea as to a *totally* different UI for the ES, if we want to get completely away from the old "separate blue/purple box" concept. I am going to be out of town tomorrow through Sunday, but when I get back, I will try to get either an implementation, or at least a mockup, done by next Mon's meeting, for your review.

brianfreud: why can't the credits page be removed?

there is AUTHORS file in the source tree for programming credits

brianfreud: sound good, bring it on! :)

brianfreud: mockup is a better idea -- less work. but I'm looking forward to it.

luks: ++

is ++ in some kind of new language? :P

its a +1 on what <user> said. :)

luks: We need a credits page somewhere, not just hidden in the source

brianfreud: why?

brianfreud: wikidocs!

ruaok: yes, pretty much what acid2 and I talked about earlier :)

I think giving credit should be done in a more visible place than AUTHORS.

I agree

well, but where is the limit? we use apache, linux, postgresql, perl, catalyst, TT, memcache, ...

outsidecontext: moin!

are those less important than some jquery plugin?

luks: I think wikidocs authors should pertain to only people who belong in AUTHORS.

not the dependencies.

moin

I agree, but that's not what the ES credits page is about