10:24 AM
luks
unless it's added from an existing release group
2009-04-05 09516, 2009
10:25 AM
RifRaf
sorts flacs, and different groups to different computers, different naming for some groups etc
2009-04-05 09526, 2009
10:25 AM
luks
this will need to be changed, because it makes impossible to add releases with a discid under existing release group, but I'm not sure how yet
2009-04-05 09526, 2009
10:25 AM
pronik
I've got a release that has got a transliteration pseudo-release, i'd like to put them into a group, how do I do that?
2009-04-05 09541, 2009
10:25 AM
nikki_ prods luks
2009-04-05 09544, 2009
10:25 AM
nikki_
nikki_ is now known as nikki
2009-04-05 09547, 2009
10:25 AM
luks
hi nikki
2009-04-05 09500, 2009
10:26 AM
nikki
did you ever see my message?
2009-04-05 09507, 2009
10:26 AM
luks
pronik: all releases are in release groups, so you want to merge the release groups
2009-04-05 09521, 2009
10:26 AM
RifRaf
handles me untagged files and audiobooks and hrm i forget, was along day starin at that code
2009-04-05 09534, 2009
10:26 AM
pronik
even pseudo-releases?
2009-04-05 09536, 2009
10:26 AM
luks
nikki: yes, but always too late, sorry :(
2009-04-05 09554, 2009
10:26 AM
luks
pronik: when I say all, I mean all :)
2009-04-05 09511, 2009
10:27 AM
nikki
too late? :o
2009-04-05 09545, 2009
10:27 AM
nikki was just wondering 'cause colloquy is stupid and doesn't tell her if the person is even online when she sends messages
2009-04-05 09546, 2009
10:27 AM
luks
more than 6 hours after you said it, in both cases :)
2009-04-05 09558, 2009
10:27 AM
luks
I'd still file a bug report
2009-04-05 09506, 2009
10:28 AM
luks
because it must be fixed in multiple branches
2009-04-05 09509, 2009
10:28 AM
nikki
sometimes I end up talking to myself 'cause the other person is using a different nick :/
2009-04-05 09512, 2009
10:28 AM
nikki
ok
2009-04-05 09528, 2009
10:29 AM
RifRaf
luks, can i copy a unmatched filename in picrad somehow?
2009-04-05 09533, 2009
10:29 AM
ruaok has quit
2009-04-05 09552, 2009
10:29 AM
RifRaf
so i can use it to search etc
2009-04-05 09509, 2009
10:30 AM
luks
I don't think so
2009-04-05 09516, 2009
10:30 AM
nikki
luks: do you have user data on there?
2009-04-05 09522, 2009
10:30 AM
luks
actually, maybe in details
2009-04-05 09531, 2009
10:30 AM
luks
nikki: nope
2009-04-05 09534, 2009
10:30 AM
RifRaf
is frustrating that the right click menu drops down
2009-04-05 09548, 2009
10:30 AM
RifRaf
on them, i'd like to just click copy or something
2009-04-05 09554, 2009
10:30 AM
nikki
oh, you already said that...
2009-04-05 09524, 2009
10:31 AM
luks
what I mainly want to know, is if you think it can be released with interface like this
2009-04-05 09543, 2009
10:31 AM
luks
the new artist page is obviously the biggest change
2009-04-05 09549, 2009
10:32 AM
pronik
luks: I guess I don't see any real changes because I'm not an AutoEditor?
2009-04-05 09525, 2009
10:33 AM
navap
pronik: Do you use the Compact listing often on the current server?
2009-04-05 09543, 2009
10:33 AM
luks
pronik: you can accept your edits on the edit page
2009-04-05 09548, 2009
10:33 AM
pronik
luks: just found it
2009-04-05 09559, 2009
10:33 AM
pronik
navap: I guess I'm using compact always, lemme look
2009-04-05 09519, 2009
10:34 AM
pronik
luks: DBD::Pg::st execute failed: CHYBA: Funkcia set_release_group_firstreleasedate(integer) neexistuje
2009-04-05 09521, 2009
10:34 AM
navap
If you are, then the changes on the artist page should be quite obvious :)
2009-04-05 09533, 2009
10:34 AM
luks
pronik: thanks, will fix in a second
2009-04-05 09541, 2009
10:35 AM
luks
pronik: fixed, I was doing a new import and forgot to change something
2009-04-05 09521, 2009
10:38 AM
pronik
ok, seems to work even if UI could use a lot of work
2009-04-05 09529, 2009
10:38 AM
pronik
so basically, everything is a release group now?
2009-04-05 09558, 2009
10:38 AM
luks
I'm not sure how much UI work is possible with the current layout
2009-04-05 09519, 2009
10:39 AM
luks
there a new layer above releases new
2009-04-05 09527, 2009
10:39 AM
luks
now
2009-04-05 09549, 2009
10:39 AM
pronik
Merging is rather difficult now, since you never know which release with the same name is which :)
2009-04-05 09505, 2009
10:40 AM
pronik
2009-04-05 09512, 2009
10:40 AM
luks
is that a problem?
2009-04-05 09524, 2009
10:40 AM
luks
only the name matters when merging a release group
2009-04-05 09538, 2009
10:40 AM
pronik
hmm
2009-04-05 09546, 2009
10:40 AM
pronik
there is probably no "main" release, right?
2009-04-05 09553, 2009
10:40 AM
luks
yes
2009-04-05 09517, 2009
10:41 AM
pronik
if you merge three releases with the same name, you have to remember which is which, since the edits won't be done by then yet
2009-04-05 09526, 2009
10:41 AM
pronik
example: rammstein / amerika single
2009-04-05 09551, 2009
10:41 AM
luks
you mean merging release groups or releases?
2009-04-05 09556, 2009
10:41 AM
pronik
So you'll merge 1->2 and then try to merge 3 to somewhere and can't distinguish 1 from 2
2009-04-05 09501, 2009
10:42 AM
pronik
release groups
2009-04-05 09517, 2009
10:42 AM
luks
if you are merging 3 release groups with the same name, then it basically doesn't matter which one you merge into
2009-04-05 09523, 2009
10:42 AM
pronik
currently there are three RGs: 1, 2 and 3 since auto-merging failed for those
2009-04-05 09535, 2009
10:42 AM
pronik
right, but read the scenario above again
2009-04-05 09542, 2009
10:42 AM
pronik
merging two of them is no problem
2009-04-05 09554, 2009
10:42 AM
pronik
deciding where to merge the third into is
2009-04-05 09512, 2009
10:43 AM
navap
They have separate mbid's..
2009-04-05 09521, 2009
10:43 AM
pronik
not in the merge gui
2009-04-05 09535, 2009
10:43 AM
luks
how would you disambiguate them?
2009-04-05 09548, 2009
10:43 AM
pronik
good question, probably by number of releases
2009-04-05 09549, 2009
10:43 AM
luks
I think people would normally merge all three in on edit
2009-04-05 09552, 2009
10:43 AM
luks
*one
2009-04-05 09555, 2009
10:43 AM
pronik
amerika (1, pending 2)
2009-04-05 09512, 2009
10:44 AM
pronik
that'd be fine too, but probably too cumbersome for mason server
2009-04-05 09528, 2009
10:44 AM
pronik
second options would be "amerika (1, pending 0)
2009-04-05 09529, 2009
10:44 AM
pronik
"
2009-04-05 09540, 2009
10:44 AM
luks
what is the pending number?
2009-04-05 09554, 2009
10:44 AM
pronik
how many releases would be in a group if all edits pass
2009-04-05 09520, 2009
10:45 AM
pronik
just an idea, could certainly use refining :)
2009-04-05 09521, 2009
10:45 AM
navap
How does merging work? I clicked merge under the RG, but it only gives me one option, not two.
2009-04-05 09542, 2009
10:45 AM
navap
Ah, but the other RG shows both.
2009-04-05 09556, 2009
10:45 AM
pronik
I guess you also need an AR first
2009-04-05 09500, 2009
10:46 AM
pronik
right, luks?
2009-04-05 09504, 2009
10:46 AM
luks
it works the same way as you merge releases
2009-04-05 09513, 2009
10:46 AM
luks
you add to the batch, and then merge all of them
2009-04-05 09538, 2009
10:46 AM
navap
You do?
2009-04-05 09544, 2009
10:46 AM
navap
It doesn't look that way.
2009-04-05 09509, 2009
10:47 AM
pronik
batch editing doesn't have any RG merging options...
2009-04-05 09511, 2009
10:47 AM
navap
Also, the UI that I had showed the individual MBIDs.
2009-04-05 09533, 2009
10:47 AM
luks
I mean, it's a separate batch
2009-04-05 09508, 2009
10:48 AM
pronik
2009-04-05 09521, 2009
10:48 AM
pronik
2009-04-05 09547, 2009
10:48 AM
navap
Ah, okay I understand now; it does add it to the stack, it just doesn't let you know that that has happened.
2009-04-05 09508, 2009
10:49 AM
navap
I see "Pork and Beans by Weezer" and "Das optimale Leben by Annett Louisan" on that page.
2009-04-05 09505, 2009
10:50 AM
navap
Although I'm still confused why RG1 automatically showed RG2, but RG2 doesn't show RG1 on the merge page.
2009-04-05 09530, 2009
10:50 AM
nikki
:o!
2009-04-05 09537, 2009
10:50 AM
nikki merged a release group and does a dance
2009-04-05 09555, 2009
10:51 AM
pronik
nikki: try merging all amerika releases by rammstein
2009-04-05 09556, 2009
10:51 AM
navap
The remove RG page gives a 404.
2009-04-05 09511, 2009
10:52 AM
navap
I mean from the merge page.
2009-04-05 09526, 2009
10:52 AM
luks is fixing the problems right now, so expect some problems :)
2009-04-05 09530, 2009
10:52 AM
luks
+new
2009-04-05 09532, 2009
10:52 AM
navap
:)
2009-04-05 09539, 2009
10:53 AM
navap
System error! :(
2009-04-05 09551, 2009
10:53 AM
nikki giggles
2009-04-05 09559, 2009
10:53 AM
nikki
who said russian was only latin and cyrillic?
2009-04-05 09500, 2009
10:54 AM
pronik
phew
2009-04-05 09506, 2009
10:54 AM
pronik
nikki: why?
2009-04-05 09515, 2009
10:54 AM
nikki
the japanese are quite happy to transliterate it :P
2009-04-05 09525, 2009
10:54 AM
pronik
I've managed to merge some stuff, but the GUI is discouraging -- more hope for tt+ngs ;)
2009-04-05 09530, 2009
10:54 AM
pronik
nikki: where??
2009-04-05 09540, 2009
10:54 AM
navap
The Japanese are crazy. :p
2009-04-05 09556, 2009
10:55 AM
pronik
luks: why don't we have compact listing there anymore?
2009-04-05 09513, 2009
10:56 AM
luks
2009-04-05 09514, 2009
10:56 AM
nikki
2009-04-05 09533, 2009
10:56 AM
luks
pronik: we do have compact listing for releases everywhere
2009-04-05 09539, 2009
10:56 AM
nikki
that explains why I was confused about which to link it to
2009-04-05 09546, 2009
10:56 AM
pronik
yes, but compact listing is "normally" something with checkboxes
2009-04-05 09508, 2009
10:57 AM
luks
I'm not sure what the question is then :)
2009-04-05 09512, 2009
10:57 AM
luks
where?
2009-04-05 09535, 2009
10:57 AM
pronik
2009-04-05 09544, 2009
10:57 AM
pronik
all I see is Year and Title
2009-04-05 09549, 2009
10:57 AM
luks
what would be the checkboxes for?
2009-04-05 09505, 2009
10:58 AM
pronik
select several releases, batch edit, merge
2009-04-05 09513, 2009
10:58 AM
pronik
s/releases/RGs/
2009-04-05 09529, 2009
10:58 AM
luks
ok, that's easy to add
2009-04-05 09535, 2009
10:58 AM
pronik
2009-04-05 09514, 2009
11:00 AM
pronik
what do we consider release group? everything that is a different edition of the same stuff? "Fan edition", "Tour edition", "Extended 3cd edition", japanese release etc.?
2009-04-05 09511, 2009
11:01 AM
navap
Can a release be in multiple RGs?
2009-04-05 09533, 2009
11:01 AM
warp
ooh, that would be a fun release.
2009-04-05 09534, 2009
11:01 AM
luks
you can transform that question to "what do you consided an album?" (with the real-world term album)
2009-04-05 09537, 2009
11:01 AM
luks
navap: no
2009-04-05 09551, 2009
11:01 AM
warp
luks: really? why not?
2009-04-05 09507, 2009
11:02 AM
luks
that's how it's done currently
2009-04-05 09530, 2009
11:05 AM
nikki
hmm... to me it's confusing that it shows the edit note/submit thing when there's only one release group
2009-04-05 09532, 2009
11:06 AM
luks
yeah, I'll add it only if there is more than one release
2009-04-05 09544, 2009
11:06 AM
luks
RG
2009-04-05 09553, 2009
11:06 AM
pronik
luks: thanks for the checkboxes, missing "batch edit" button now ;)
2009-04-05 09532, 2009
11:07 AM
luks
working on it
2009-04-05 09533, 2009
11:12 AM
pronik
luks: works nicely :)
2009-04-05 09549, 2009
11:12 AM
navap
Minor thing, but the email that is sent for account verification includes a URL that points to localhost:5000.
2009-04-05 09526, 2009
11:13 AM
luks
should be fixed now
2009-04-05 09502, 2009
11:14 AM
navap
Oh okay, I got mine 30min ago..just opened it now.
2009-04-05 09515, 2009
11:16 AM
pronik
luks: what about singles released from a particular album. RG or not RG?
2009-04-05 09542, 2009
11:16 AM
luks
I'd say singles are separate RGs
2009-04-05 09555, 2009
11:18 AM
pronik
I guess it depends on our (and BBC's ;)) definition of RG. I see logic in both ways...
2009-04-05 09547, 2009
11:19 AM
pronik
another question: a big 32-cd series, is it a release group?
2009-04-05 09504, 2009
11:20 AM
pronik
(I'm afraid we'd need subgroups soon ;))
2009-04-05 09514, 2009
11:20 AM
luks
not series
2009-04-05 09527, 2009
11:20 AM
luks
each volume should have it's own RG
2009-04-05 09535, 2009
11:20 AM
pronik
so bravo hits 42 cd 1 and 2 are a RG, bravo hits itself is not?
2009-04-05 09541, 2009
11:20 AM
luks
right
2009-04-05 09553, 2009
11:20 AM
luks
series are handled by NGS properly, but not right now
