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      • Munger
        Hi all. Are there any command line tools for musicbrainz?
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      • Muz
        People have made some before, you may have some luck by searching the wiki, wiki.musicbrainz.com
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      • Munger
        Hmmm. When I looked before all I found was a bunch of comments from people who feel that MB is too interactive for a command line utility to work.
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      • Muz
        Nah, I distinctly remember someone making a CLI tagger. It may have been rather primitive but there was some work done towards it.
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      • Munger
        OK. I'll keep looking. I have just logged my collection into a mysql database, and was looking for a way to gather more info on unidentified tracks. Maybe I'll look at writing some code based on the musicbrainz library
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      • Munger
        Oooooh. libofa is open sourced
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        brianfreud__ is now known as brianfreud
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      • LotR
        hehe. wishful thinking
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      • warp
        lol
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      • CatCat
        bah i whent to bath then to bed and did not knowof a meeting
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      • CatCat
        is it every monday?
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      • Muz
        Yes.
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      • Munger
        Yeah! I have command line musicbrainz lookup working :-)
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      • Muz
        In what language though?
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      • Munger
        C++
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      • Muz
        Pro.
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      • Munger
        I now have a screenful of XML
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      • Munger
        ttfn ;-)
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      • MClemo
        too late to ask what he's using it for
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      • MClemo
        command line tagging application would be cool
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      • aCiD2
        word up brainz
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      • Muz
        MClemo: indeed.
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      • Muz
        MBChatLogger: off
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      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging
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      • MBChatLogger
        is logging
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      • brianfreud
        howdy aCiD2 :)
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      • LotR
        muz: you have a server with unlimited bandwidth?
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      • Muz
        LotR: I do.
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      • Muz
        LotR: however, I don't have unlimited disk space.
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      • Muz
        Well, where unlimited == several hundred TB/month from what I've been told.
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      • Muz
        I'm never going to hit up that much bandwidth.
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      • LotR
        right
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      • LotR wonders how muz got a deal like that
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      • Muz
        Most of the hardware is actually quite crappy though, hence why I'm not running much on it.
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      • aCiD2
        my OVH server is pretty sweet
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      • aCiD2
        well, kimsufi
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      • aCiD2
        250gb drive, and one fast connection
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      • nikkeee
        ovh? kimsufi?
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      • Muz
        I wouldn't mind 250GB, only got 30GB in this.
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      • Muz
        Should hopefully get some moar space soon though.
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      • LotR only has 12G on his newly acquired linode :)
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      • Muz
        12GB? That's not enough to run an MB mirror.
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      • nikkeee
        it is if you don't import closed edits
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      • Muz
        E_NOT_ENOUGH
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      • LotR
        I wasn't planning on running an MB mirror on it :)
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      • Muz
        That said, I can't see why edits aren't viewable whilst logged out. ¬_¬
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      • nikkeee
        I wonder if there are any linode-like servers in the uk
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      • nikkeee
        for a similar price I mean
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      • CosmicRay
        hi folks. HAve a question about Picard. How the heck do you set the sort order on either panel? It's pretty useless to have several hundred albums in random order
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      • aCiD2
        kimsufi = www.kimsufi.com
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      • CosmicRay
        nikkeee: if you're looking for cheap hosting, I am a fan of corenetworks.net.
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      • CosmicRay
        nikkeee: they offer actual dedicated boxes for about the price you pay for Xen instances elsewhere
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      • aCiD2
        FFFFFSSSSS
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      • nikkeee
        are they in the uk?#
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      • aCiD2 punches JDBC
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      • aCiD2 punches JDBC
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      • aCiD2
        whoops, heh
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      • nikkeee
        the prices are in dollars so I guess not
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      • nikkeee
        oh well.
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      • LotR
        nikkeee: why does it have to be in the uk?
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      • CosmicRay
        nikkeee: I used memset (which is in the UK) for awhile, despite being in the US.
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      • CosmicRay
        it doesn't really matter to me where these places are geographically
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      • CosmicRay
        memset had good service, but their prices got to be too much above the competition for me to continue using them
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      • nikkeee
        so when I'm not in the uk I can still access uk-only sites, hopefully
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      • CosmicRay
        ah.
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      • LotR
        nikkeee: ah, ok
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      • CosmicRay
        aCiD2: no problem, I hate JDBC as well ;-)
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      • CosmicRay
        also has anyone else seen picard intermittently say "couldn't load album"?
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      • nikkeee
        I normally just leave a computer plugged in somewhere, but it's highly unreliable
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      • nikkeee
        yes, everyone
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      • CosmicRay
        nikkeee: do we know what the problem/solution is?
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      • nikkeee
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      • CosmicRay
        I googled and seemed to only come up with people with proxy issues
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      • nikkeee
        it's one of the things on that page :)#
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      • CosmicRay
        server too busy eh
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      • CosmicRay
        it's not one of the other ones
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      • CosmicRay
        I have folksonomy turned off, am using picard 0.11, and don't have network issues
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      • nikkeee
        try reloading a few times then
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      • CosmicRay
        well yes that does work
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      • Muz
        It's most likely the server being overloaded. :(
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      • Muz
        Which is a known, but yeah, just keep trying to refresh
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      • CosmicRay
        but due to the issue of not being able to sort, it is a royal PITA to pick out a few dozen entries out of a list of several hundred to reload
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      • CosmicRay
        it's not like I can just highlight them all at once
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      • Muz
        Sure you can, press Ctrl A
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      • CosmicRay
        uh no.
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      • CosmicRay
        because 20% continue to fail.
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      • CosmicRay
        that will just shift the failures to a different 20%.
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      • LotR
        CosmicRay: if the server is overloaded anyway, reloading a dozen at once is only going to make matters worse anyway :)
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      • Muz
        You only mentioned highlighting them all. :p
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      • CosmicRay
        I mean highlighting all that had failed.
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      • Muz
        But yeah, I thin kyou may need to ease up a bit and not feed Picard so many albums at once
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      • CosmicRay
        no, I am nowhere near evil enough to just hit reload on the entire list until it works ;-)
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      • Muz
        You'll be less prone to get server overloaded issues, and find it easier to pick out ones to reload.
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      • CosmicRay
        Muz: that would be great, but the ipod's file structure sucks.
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      • nikkeee
        you'd be trying for quite a long time anyway :/
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      • Muz
        Picard has a WS rate limiter too iirc.
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      • Muz
        So you can't really overload it with just one instance.
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      • CosmicRay
        Muz: ipod has a bunch of directories like f01, f5a, etc. files are scattered all over them. even files from a single album could be in 8 different directories, with no rhyme or reason
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      • Muz
        Yeah, iPod--.
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      • CosmicRay
        the other annoying thing about picard is that if I find one or two tracks in my collection that belong with an album that has already been tagged...
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      • CosmicRay
        I can hit the lookup button, or the send to tagger from the website...
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      • CosmicRay
        and nothing appears to happen because it's already in the list on the right pane.
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      • CosmicRay
        but where?!
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      • CosmicRay
        somewhere in the middle of 200 or 300 entries.
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      • CosmicRay
        I have tried every way I can think of to sort the right pane, and nothing seems to do it
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      • brianfreud
        the way I handle it, don't use ctrl-A
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      • brianfreud
        picard will move to releases by title, if you click on the release list and type a letter. (undocumented)
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      • brianfreud
        So just click on the list on the right, and hit "[" to move through the various NAT and [untitled], SPAs, and couldn't loads - and as you hit the couldn't loads, then you can just selectively reload them
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      • CosmicRay
        ah.
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      • CosmicRay
        that is helpful.
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      • brianfreud
        aCiD2: ping?
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      • CosmicRay
        what is the style guideline for volumne numbers when the original album used roman numerals?
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      • CosmicRay
        do we keep the roman numerals or use standard numbers?
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      • CosmicRay
        the volume style doesn't seem to address this
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      • MClemo
        true. I guess, what's on the cover, so "[...], Volume <as on cover>"
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      • MClemo
        but just a guess, don't know if this has been discussed before
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      • CosmicRay
        ok.
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      • CosmicRay
        that's what I've been doing.
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      • brianfreud
        MClemo: It inherits that from http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/SeriesNumberStyle - "These things are usually not changed by SeriesNumberStyle: Number schemes other than "1, 2, 3, ..."; e.g. "I, II, III, ...", "One, Two, Three, ...", "1st, 2nd, 3rd" or the use of foreign language numbers. "
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      • CosmicRay
        ah
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      • MClemo
        brianfreud: ah, thanks. But the wording on the page could be improved. Not very easy to understand imo
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      • brianfreud
        prob the same could be said for all the docs