"SeriesNumberStyle is, however, weak and follows the StylePrinciples in the following cases (as long as they are used consistently in the original data, or at least in the majority of cases)." is kind of extreme, though :P
2009-02-24 05558, 2009
MClemo
but well, maybe it's just me :)
2009-02-24 05541, 2009
nikki
extreme how?
2009-02-24 05544, 2009
MClemo
I did wonder if the variations are ok or not. At least you don't get it on first reading
2009-02-24 05523, 2009
MClemo
gotta run, see you
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christel
[Global Notice] Hi all, I'm about to take services offline for a few moments to restore some stuff from the db, as JonathanD would say "on freenode, staff happens.." -- They should be back with you shortly and I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
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outsidecontext
luks: ping
2009-02-24 05513, 2009
luks
outsidecontext: pong
2009-02-24 05526, 2009
outsidecontext
luks: do you have a moment for some advice?
2009-02-24 05540, 2009
luks
yep
2009-02-24 05551, 2009
outsidecontext
found a bug in the new rating code i somehow overlooked
2009-02-24 05521, 2009
outsidecontext
for id3 i tried to store a POPM with email and rating but without a playcount
2009-02-24 05558, 2009
outsidecontext
mutagen does not like that when saving a file (although it seems to save it nevertheless, but it throws an ugly exception)
2009-02-24 05523, 2009
luks
but if you just give it 0 it works fine?
2009-02-24 05537, 2009
outsidecontext
yes, but isn't that rather stupid?
2009-02-24 05553, 2009
outsidecontext
we could easily overwrite an existing value
2009-02-24 05558, 2009
luks
yeah
2009-02-24 05540, 2009
outsidecontext
i somehow hoped mutagen would take care of this when i omitted the value :)
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
outsidecontext
but i guess we have to store the playcount internally and save it together with the rating
2009-02-24 05554, 2009
luks
well, even in save() you have fully loaded ID3 object
2009-02-24 05514, 2009
luks
you can just look there when saving POPM if there is an existing frame and copy playcount from it
2009-02-24 05557, 2009
outsidecontext
ah, good advice :) i will try this
2009-02-24 05514, 2009
luks
mutagen by default doesn't do anything with the original ID3 tag on save
2009-02-24 05532, 2009
luks
it just takes what you giv it, encodes it and writes to a file
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luks
so it couldn't take care of this
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outsidecontext
luks: thanks, that was a good solution
2009-02-24 05528, 2009
luks
no problem :)
2009-02-24 05517, 2009
pbryan
brianfreud: Just got 170 CDs in the mail.
2009-02-24 05535, 2009
FauxFaux
O_o
2009-02-24 05507, 2009
pbryan
Out of curiosity, did you organize it as one release?
2009-02-24 05506, 2009
pbryan
Wow, so you did -- I pulled a random disc and mbdiscid'd it.
2009-02-24 05531, 2009
srotta
170 CDs as one release?
2009-02-24 05553, 2009
pbryan
Note quite in MB -- 170 "releases".
2009-02-24 05559, 2009
pbryan
With (disc x).
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nikkeee
what did you get?
2009-02-24 05540, 2009
pbryan
Brilliant Classics Complete Mozart.
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
pbryan
And nikkeee, I've had to put a *third* mortgage on my house.
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nikki
in order to buy a 170 cd set?
2009-02-24 05558, 2009
brianfreud
pbryan: enjoy :D
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
pbryan
No, to buy the four Mosaic sets I just ordered.
2009-02-24 05511, 2009
pbryan
brianfreud: You've ripped all 170?
2009-02-24 05516, 2009
nikki
mosaic sets?
2009-02-24 05519, 2009
nikki is confused
2009-02-24 05521, 2009
pbryan
Mosaic Records.
2009-02-24 05538, 2009
pbryan
Sorry, I think I'm confused.
2009-02-24 05544, 2009
brianfreud
pbryan: yep, though I didn't have the CDs avail in hand when I entered it.
2009-02-24 05555, 2009
brianfreud
But I entered the entire thing into MB last year - but if you wouldn't mind adding cd tocs and from them times?
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
pbryan
How did you organize in your filesystem?
2009-02-24 05511, 2009
pbryan
brianfreud: NP.
2009-02-24 05535, 2009
desrt
when i get the result of a getTrackById how do i tell what the track number was?
2009-02-24 05536, 2009
brianfreud
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart/blah blah Volume n (Disc y)
2009-02-24 05548, 2009
pbryan
Yeah, saw you broke it down by volume.
2009-02-24 05513, 2009
brianfreud
the entire BC set is in there, and 80% or so of the Philips set is in too
entering the BC set is where the CSGStandard lists started, actually
2009-02-24 05559, 2009
pbryan
Will these wiki pages be replaced with release groups?
2009-02-24 05527, 2009
brianfreud
no idea how luks plans to handle sets of release groups - "release sets"?
2009-02-24 05536, 2009
brianfreud
or, in this type of case, sets of sets of release groups
2009-02-24 05503, 2009
brianfreud
(esp when some in the set/series will always still be on the "to be entered" list - "release set annotation" fodder?
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nikki
just grouping the discs in one set together will be a good start :P
2009-02-24 05540, 2009
nikki
I'm not sure if anything is planned for box sets and series though
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brianfreud
hi aCiD2
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aCiD2
hey
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aCiD2
got your bug report
2009-02-24 05541, 2009
aCiD2
having a look now
2009-02-24 05544, 2009
brianfreud
Figure maybe it should be broken into bits, but that would have meant redundantly pasting in a rather lengthy chunk of HTML, and wasn't quite sure anyhow which were from the same or different causes
2009-02-24 05527, 2009
aCiD2
don't have to post the html could just say "input missing label, see #4515 line whatever"
2009-02-24 05530, 2009
aCiD2
but one ticket is fine
2009-02-24 05540, 2009
brianfreud
just happened to see one issue in there, then as I looked closer, saw the others :)
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aCiD2
good eye :)
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brianfreud
:) Easy to spot once you break it down to one attr per line :P
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pronik`
luks: what would you need me to do with my option page revamp to put it into picard .12?
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pronik`
pronik` is now known as pronik
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ruaok
ahhh.
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ruaok feels much better today
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warp
ruaok: good :)
2009-02-24 05520, 2009
pronik
ruaok: launchpad wants to have all translations licensed under BSD license, is it ok for us?
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ruaok ponders
2009-02-24 05501, 2009
ruaok
I can't see a problem with that. can anyone else?
2009-02-24 05557, 2009
pronik
I'm personally fine with that, I don't see that many strings which can be used by other projects anyway...
2009-02-24 05548, 2009
pronik
btw, the guys were talking about being mb mirrors -- I also remember asking you about how much traffic being a mirror produces. Got any figures off your head? I've got a TB on my server...
2009-02-24 05537, 2009
ruaok
generally mirrors generate next to no traffiic, because we never send them traffic.
2009-02-24 05542, 2009
brianfreud
is there any license conflict using BSD translations within GPL2 software?
2009-02-24 05558, 2009
ruaok
and we don't send mirrors traffic because they have shown to be unreliable.
2009-02-24 05515, 2009
pronik
ok, understood :)
2009-02-24 05523, 2009
ruaok
In order to run an MB server, you need to throw a capable machine at it.
2009-02-24 05525, 2009
warp
brianfreud: no, BSD is very permissive.
2009-02-24 05541, 2009
pronik
which mine probably won't be
2009-02-24 05552, 2009
ruaok
and there are fewer people willing to do that, so mirror servers have really not worked out for us. :-(
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srotta
BSD is pretty much "do what you want" license.
2009-02-24 05522, 2009
ruaok
if mb was less resource intensive like freedb the scenario would be different.
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
nikki
pronik: I noticed picard has the countries and formats in its translations already... is there a way the server can use the same ones?
2009-02-24 05528, 2009
pronik
nikki: which formats do you mean?
2009-02-24 05538, 2009
nikki
cd, dvd, etc
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
pronik
since picard is translated using launchpad, we can use those translations, it's a matter of selecting them
I was wondering about the cldr... isn't it copyrighted? although I suppose you can't copyright a list of country names...
2009-02-24 05535, 2009
nikki doesn't understand copyright very well
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CatCat
it's really weird, i tried making a thing on launchpad, i never got my acception mail from them
2009-02-24 05504, 2009
CatCat
so i forgot about it :s
2009-02-24 05514, 2009
nikki
oh, that's a thing...
2009-02-24 05519, 2009
nikki
I was wondering about the country names...
2009-02-24 05553, 2009
aCiD2
anyone got any ideas why irssi can't connect to a server?
2009-02-24 05501, 2009
aCiD2
resolves dns correctly, just doesn't connect :(
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
outsidecontext_
pronik, is everything ready in the options pages from your point of view?
2009-02-24 05532, 2009
pronik
nikki: do you like what you see? ;)
2009-02-24 05534, 2009
nikki
should we be using the full formal names that iso gives or are shorter versions ok? like we have "Russian Federation" and "Libyan Arab Jamahiriya" when the normal english names are "Russia" and "Libya"
2009-02-24 05550, 2009
alastairp
aCiD2: dodgy network?
2009-02-24 05551, 2009
pronik
we are already using "Russian Federation"
2009-02-24 05557, 2009
nikki
that's what I said
2009-02-24 05501, 2009
nikki
we have those right now
2009-02-24 05517, 2009
alastairp
aCiD2: as in, irc net, not internet
2009-02-24 05519, 2009
pronik
outsidecontext_: I'd say I'm done with the renaming/moving pages, the question is whether I should take on the others
2009-02-24 05528, 2009
outsidecontext_
nikki: i was wondering the same when i copied the country list from the server to picard
2009-02-24 05533, 2009
warp
nikki: lists of facts in general cannot be copyrighted, but in .nl (probably all of EU) there is something like 'database right' which applies to such collections in lots of cases.
2009-02-24 05541, 2009
pronik
nikki: I would like to keep them -- this way we get out of politics
2009-02-24 05542, 2009
CatCat
I'd say use the short
2009-02-24 05548, 2009
CatCat
but uh
2009-02-24 05552, 2009
ruaok
anyone wanna answer an email re picard?
2009-02-24 05503, 2009
pronik
if something unicode releases is not free, where is the point of having it at all?
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aCiD2
alastairp: dunno, it can connect to trackers fine :/
