ruaok: hypothetical question: if we were to adopt unicode normalization and transliteration standards, could we kill transliterated pseudo-releases then?
2009-02-24 05545, 2009
nikki
pronik: well, it just seems weird when nobody uses those names
2009-02-24 05553, 2009
aCiD2
back in 40 or so (I wish I could get irssi to work on this server >.<)
2009-02-24 05553, 2009
CatCat
natta!
2009-02-24 05501, 2009
alastairp
aCiD2: what irc network?
2009-02-24 05504, 2009
nikki
like even wikipedia and the cia world factbook thing both use the normal english names
2009-02-24 05521, 2009
ruaok
pronik: we should be able to do away with pseudo releases in NGS.
2009-02-24 05547, 2009
nikki
pronik: how will you transliterate japanese?
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outsidecontext_
pronik: bringing the advanced/scripting option page up to date with your changes would be good
2009-02-24 05505, 2009
pronik
nikki: yes, but wikipedia can actually explain the political difficulties, we can't
2009-02-24 05515, 2009
pronik
outsidecontext_: understood
2009-02-24 05519, 2009
nikki
pronik: but they still have to pick an article's name
2009-02-24 05532, 2009
pronik
nikki: I'd be using unicode transliteration and/or normalization for that.
2009-02-24 05545, 2009
nikki
I don't think it would work...
2009-02-24 05559, 2009
outsidecontext_
luks critisized the different font sizes, and the live errors would be cool, too
2009-02-24 05549, 2009
outsidecontext_
pronik, but i really hope your changes get into picard soon. then my eee will be able to display the options dialog again :D
2009-02-24 05508, 2009
pronik
a sec, I'm looking up a quote
2009-02-24 05512, 2009
nikki
you can't tell how to pronounce a japanese word unless you know how to pronounce it... and transliterations are based on pronunciation
outsidecontext_: according to that quote I can put the headings back in ;)
2009-02-24 05539, 2009
outsidecontext_
which quote?
2009-02-24 05522, 2009
nikki
pronik: but we simply don't have the information needed
2009-02-24 05543, 2009
pronik
nikki: I can at least try and ask around if it looks right
2009-02-24 05502, 2009
pronik
outsidecontext_: look two lines above
2009-02-24 05526, 2009
nikki
it's the same problem with chinese too
2009-02-24 05533, 2009
pronik
nikki: unicode has put a lot of time into thinking about this stuff, we should use their expertise
2009-02-24 05555, 2009
luks
pronik: except this is NOT possible
2009-02-24 05555, 2009
outsidecontext_
pronik: sorry, i was distracted.
2009-02-24 05515, 2009
pronik
hi luks :)
2009-02-24 05519, 2009
outsidecontext_
i liked the headings, but luks must decide
2009-02-24 05525, 2009
luks
you can't transliterate some languages even with knowing what the words mean
2009-02-24 05544, 2009
luks
because the sentence structure might change their meaning, and they would transliterate differently
2009-02-24 05545, 2009
pronik
hebrew?
2009-02-24 05508, 2009
luks
chinese and japanese, in the first place
2009-02-24 05518, 2009
nikki
a couple of examples - 日本 can be 'nihon' or 'nippon', 今日 can be 'kyou' or 'konnichi' - you would need another field for the reading of the kanji in order to know how to pronounce them
2009-02-24 05509, 2009
pronik
and considering a german transliteration would look differently from the english one....
2009-02-24 05513, 2009
pronik
I know, I know :)
2009-02-24 05503, 2009
nikki
plus they often use furigana to change the pronunciation... there's an album I know of with '刑事' in the name, which is 'keiji' normally... but it has 'コップ' written above it to indicate that it's pronounced 'koppu' in this case
typesettings = { buttons: { textYes:1, textNo:2 } } <---- textYes and textNo are variables. But, oddly, they're being interpreted as strings - "textYes", "textNo", not variables... any ideas?
2009-02-24 05549, 2009
luks
outsidecontext: I really don't know, WMP probably doesn't use full dates, does it?
2009-02-24 05517, 2009
luks
brianfreud: don't use array literals if you don't want that
2009-02-24 05522, 2009
outsidecontext
brianfreud, you use textYes and textNo as keys for an hash, the variables are not used at all
2009-02-24 05552, 2009
luks
{ foo: 1 } is a direct equivalent of { "foo": 1 } in javascript
2009-02-24 05504, 2009
brianfreud
oh, I see
2009-02-24 05506, 2009
luks
similarly to perl
2009-02-24 05519, 2009
luks
but perl has the advantage of prefixing variables with $
2009-02-24 05527, 2009
outsidecontext
luks: i don't know. i will test that
2009-02-24 05551, 2009
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outsidecontext
brianfreud: use x = {}; x[textYes] = 1; x[textNo] = 2;
2009-02-24 05533, 2009
luks
but even better, don't use texts as keys for anything :P
2009-02-24 05541, 2009
luks
especially not if they are going to be translated
2009-02-24 05506, 2009
brianfreud
that's actually exactly why I ran into this - separating the text into a variable
2009-02-24 05520, 2009
brianfreud
the keys are the 1 and 2, for this plugin
2009-02-24 05541, 2009
brianfreud
(yes, it does button handles backwards, for whatever reason)
2009-02-24 05549, 2009
primeminister_
he all
2009-02-24 05554, 2009
primeminister_
primeminister_ is now known as primeminister
2009-02-24 05512, 2009
luks
brianfreud: that's not going to help you if you don't find textYes on the html page
2009-02-24 05517, 2009
primeminister
I read on the wiki that I can update my mb db with mb_server
2009-02-24 05520, 2009
luks
because it's will be Áno, not Yes
2009-02-24 05535, 2009
primeminister
can anyone point me in te right direction how?
2009-02-24 05552, 2009
primeminister
I downloaded and installed (with success) the mb_server
2009-02-24 05512, 2009
primeminister
but how can I update the mb database when I want to (once a week or so)
2009-02-24 05530, 2009
brianfreud
luks, yes, I know - "textYes" is a variable, the plugin does buttontext:int - as I say, backwards, but passes me back int as the value for which button was clicked
2009-02-24 05555, 2009
luks
primeminister: ideally you should update it hourly
2009-02-24 05506, 2009
primeminister
luks: also for non-commercial?
2009-02-24 05523, 2009
primeminister
but hourly is fine I guess
2009-02-24 05523, 2009
luks
ehm, what is the difference? :)
2009-02-24 05524, 2009
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primeminister
luk: :)
2009-02-24 05530, 2009
ollie_
ollie_ is now known as aCiD2
2009-02-24 05531, 2009
primeminister
+s
2009-02-24 05532, 2009
luks
the packets are produced hourle
2009-02-24 05535, 2009
primeminister
ah ok
2009-02-24 05542, 2009
ruaok
commercial use needs to pay for the use of the live data feed.
2009-02-24 05552, 2009
ruaok
if youre not commercial then, no worries.
2009-02-24 05552, 2009
primeminister
yeah, read that indeed
2009-02-24 05557, 2009
primeminister
allright
2009-02-24 05513, 2009
brianfreud heads out for a couple of hours
2009-02-24 05515, 2009
primeminister
but any starting points to get the hourly updates?
2009-02-24 05526, 2009
ruaok
once you're all installed,
2009-02-24 05526, 2009
luks
INSTALL should cover that
2009-02-24 05546, 2009
ruaok
run admin/replication/LoadReplicationChanges once an hour about 10 minutes after the hour
2009-02-24 05512, 2009
primeminister
ruaok: cool. I'm gonna dive into that
2009-02-24 05523, 2009
luks
I'd suggest admin/cron/slave.sh instead
2009-02-24 05536, 2009
luks
just for the rotated log file
2009-02-24 05542, 2009
primeminister
luks: thought so, but then it says that my server is not a valid slave
2009-02-24 05508, 2009
luks
well, you need to import your DB as RT_SLAVE
2009-02-24 05528, 2009
luks
otherwise you have foreign key constraints in your DB, which will break the replication
2009-02-24 05543, 2009
primeminister
luks: hmm... RT_SLAVE.. you lost me
2009-02-24 05548, 2009
luks
but you can just drop them and change the type, ifyou already have the db imported
