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luks
oh, the second one is ./admin/psql RAWDATA <./admin/sql/vertical/rawdata/CreateFKConstraints.sql
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luks
not READWRITE
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primeminister
allright
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primeminister
luks: where do you see this?
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luks
nowhere, that's why I have correct myself so often :)
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primeminister
ah :)
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luks
outsidecontext: you are running windows right now, can you check some other players with WMP support?
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luks
*WMA
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outsidecontext
only my virtual windows, i will have to install some. i'm at the moment downloading winamp
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outsidecontext
QL shows the complete date as it was saved in the tag
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luks
of course it does, I wrote that code :)
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primeminister
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luks
um, no
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primeminister
:)
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luks
I didn't realize I had wrong another part :)
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luks
one sec
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primeminister
allright
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outsidecontext
luks: thx for writing it that way, then :D
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luks
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luks
this pastebin is seriouly confusing
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primeminister
luks" yeah I know
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outsidecontext
virtualized windows 7 seriously sucks
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primeminister
luks: hmm :\ don't have logrotate on my mac. I use it without
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luks
primeminister: then just use admin/replication/LoadReplicationChanges
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pronik
outsidecontext: pushing out live syntax check for scripting option pane
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outsidecontext
cool
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pronik
I've also reordered tagging pane a bit, please take a look at that
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outsidecontext
pronik, the changes make sense
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primeminister
luks: great! updating now. Thanks a lot
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primeminister
Robert in the room?
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outsidecontext
pronik: another point on this page is "Write ID3v2 version 2.3 tags (2.4 is default)". nobody understands that option the first time
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primeminister
ruaok: you robert?
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Mirrakor
I understand it :D
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ruaok
yep.
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primeminister
he! charlie here from cloudspeakers
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primeminister
Utrecht, NL?
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ruaok
oh, hi!
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primeminister
:)
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luks
outsidecontext: I think it should be two radio buttons
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primeminister
everything ok?
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ruaok
heh. I think I caught your cold when I visited. :-(
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outsidecontext
luks: i like proniks changes. if you are fine with it i suggest he can merge it
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primeminister
yeah, I heard that. sorry about that
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ruaok
yep, things are well. how about you?
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outsidecontext
luks: yes, would be better
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ruaok
no worries. :)
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primeminister
everything ok.
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luks
outsidecontext: I haven't seen the latest changes, but if you like it, I'm for merging it
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pronik
outsidecontext: have been my thoughts too -- I dare to say, nobody understands ID3 too, so I was inclined to put "MP3 tags version 1" in there
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pronik
s/too/neither/ ;)
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outsidecontext
pronik: i would not oversimplify it. people semm to be quite used to ID3 and use it for every tagging format :)
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luks
yeah :)
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pronik
that's why I left it that way
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pronik
should I play with radio buttons a bit?
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outsidecontext
but merge your changes
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outsidecontext
if you want, yes
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pronik
I want to :)
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outsidecontext
great
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outsidecontext
just today i had to explain a collleague how this options is intended to work ;)
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primeminister
init update is taking a long tie. What's the average time for hourly updates?
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primeminister
*time
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pronik
I also get the feeling we need a sane default for this whole encoding thing
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pronik
in my mind, id3v2.4 == UTF8, id3v2.3 == UTF-16, latin1 should not be used
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ruaok
primeminister: have you increased the shared_segments in your postges setup?
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primeminister
ruaok: let me check
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ruaok
the default install is a bit weak, which causes updates to run a really long time.
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outsidecontext
id3v2.3 already defaults to utf16, utf8 will be greyed out
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pronik
yes, I know that. Any reason to use utf-16 or latin1 with id3v2.4?
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pronik
same question goes for latin1 with id3v2.3
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luks
pronik: players, sw and hw, are so broken that people have to use them
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primeminister
ruaok: ok. I'll check that
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outsidecontext
don't know, people have strange needs
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pronik had to retag some files with v2.3 recently ...
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pronik
so I'll make it a radio button: "Prefer v2.3/2.4 for tagging"
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luks
I meant something like "Version of ID3 tags: (.) ID3v2.4 ( ) ID3v2.3"
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pronik
same thing, sloppy text on my side...
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luks
ah
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nikki
would it still be editable in the config file?
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warp
ruaok: hm, that top is a fun post on mb-devel. i'm always confused by such situations too, and have no answer to your question.
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ruaok
lol
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luks
nikki: it will use the same config variable
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luks
just different UI
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ruaok
if its not disk or cpu, its gotta be bus. :)
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nikki
ah, so people can edit the config file if they really want a weird setup
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luks
hm?
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pronik
ruaok: try iotop for a change ;)
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luks
all combinations are possible also from the GUI
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pronik
nikki: weird setup stays as it is, I'm just changing the gui a bit
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ruaok finds iotop
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nikki
oh, it sounded like you were not asking for the encoding
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pronik
not yet :)
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warp
ruaok: what is your concern in that top listing btw?
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alastairp
warp: the load?
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ruaok
trying to understand.
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warp
isn't a load of 4 normal if you have that many cores?
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ruaok
yep. and I don't start getting worried about the load once it reaches 8.
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ruaok
and even 2xcores is still doable.
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warp nods
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luks
outsidecontext: 'originaldate': N_('Original release date'), -- title case please
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luks
or change all the other tag names :)
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alastairp
ruaok: try vmstat 1
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outsidecontext
na, i rather change mine. thx for noticing
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ruaok
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ruaok
io doesn't seem heavily loaded.
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alastairp
someone has also suggested press 'i' when top is up
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ruaok
what does i ?
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ruaok
do
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alastairp
> if there aren't about 4 processes
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alastairp
> then it's interrupts
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alastairp
> oh
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alastairp
> you have pythons
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ruaok
GIL?
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ruaok
no, they are separate processes, not threads.
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ruaok
pronik: iotop shows apache writing stuff to log files. very quiet.
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primeminister
√√ruaok: you are sure the option is shared_segments and not shared_buffers
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ruaok
shared_buffers is right :)
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primeminister
cool! ;)
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ruaok
up it by a factor of 10
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primeminister
upped it to 16384kb
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ruaok
good.
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primeminister
thnx
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ruaok
the stop the replication when its downloding a new packet.
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ruaok
shut down PG and restart.
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ruaok
then resume replication.
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primeminister
allright
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primeminister
thnx
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alastairp
ruaok:
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alastairp
> then that probably doesn't count towards iowait
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alastairp
do the search servers communicate directly with web?
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ruaok
yes, but there are two layers of proxying web servers in front
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ruaok
so, maybe thats a no. not sure.
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alastairp
right
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alastairp
well, that's about the limit of my experience :)
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ruaok
seems this is not so commonly understood. :)
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alastairp
what are you wondering specifically? why the cpu utilisation isn't higher?
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ruaok
yes
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alastairp
right
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ruaok
cuz there is plenty of ram and the disks are idle.
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ruaok
so, it must be blocking on something else.
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alastairp
the only other comment was that the syscall% is pretty high
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