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      • Munger
        Anyone else got a collection on Linux mounted over Samba?
      • outsidecontext
        i used to have one, but not anymore
      • Munger
        I think that is the cause of the problem I was having yesterday
      • outsidecontext
        do oyu have it with many files?
      • Munger
        About 100,000
      • OIC, about 5%
      • No discernible pattern
      • outsidecontext
        i have no idea. and you have those access problems with no other application?
      • Munger
        I have checked about 20 files that picard won't accept and other apps have no problem. Gigabit ethernet and 1 terabyte sata drive on fast server
      • Don't think it's a timeout issue
      • Always the same files
      • They all work if I copy them locally, but that is not an option
      • outsidecontext
        understandable. you use smbmount to mout the share as a drive, right?
      • Munger
        Picard seems happy with them during the drag operation, as it switches the cursor to a +, and it displays them in the left-hand panel. It just seems that it is doing some quick analysis when they are dropped and won't accept them. It can't be the file header itself, as that does not change when I copy the file local. How is it scanning the file when it is dropped?
      • Windows is mounting the drive an mapping it. I dunno how it does that
      • outsidecontext
        Munger: ah, that way .) i thought you were on linux accessing the share
      • luks
        it is only checking the extension
      • outsidecontext
        yes, if picard would accept the file but could not read it it would show the file together with an error icon
      • Munger
        The drive is in the linux box. MacOS can mount it fine and iTunes accepts everything
      • outsidecontext
        Munger: but the files are named like the file you send me?
      • Munger
        luks, It obviously checks the extension before it displays it in the files panel. It sees nothing wrong at that point
      • outsidecontext
        Munger: i don't think it does that, it checks when you drop
      • can you start picard with the "--dbug" parameter, then drop that file and paste the output from the debug log somewhere?
      • Munger
        Yes. File naming is 100% consistent
      • outsidecontext
        that should be "--debug"
      • Munger
        Sure. Gimme a few mins
      • outsidecontext
        luks: do you have any clue? that does not make much sense
      • luks
        I think it's like "file.mp3 " or "file. mp3" or something like that
      • outsidecontext
        munger said he checked that
      • luks
        I do not believe users when debugging a problem (no offence Munger) :)
      • Munger
        I understand. If it helps, I was a Mac programmer for over 20 years ;-)
      • luks
        ok, now I believe you a little more :)
      • Munger
        But I can still screw up
      • outsidecontext
        everybody can that
      • Munger
        HEnce my pathological loathing of Windows. I feel tainted
      • ruaok
        \ΓΈ/
      • Munger
        WTF!!!! If I run with --debug it accepts them. If I drop that switch and try again it does not. Is somebody having a laugh?
      • luks
        huh
      • MClemo
        evil debug switch
      • luks
        Munger: where are you dragging the files from?
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      • Munger
        Hmm. I'm going to keep running it with --debug and see if it starts to fail later. This could be some memory leak that gets progressively worse with use
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      • outsidecontext
        Munger: but without --debug you can reproduce that right away after starting picard?
      • Munger
        In this case, the file view panel in the left of the picard window. It was also failing when I dragged them from windows explorer if the files were on the samba mount,
      • luks
        weird
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      • outsidecontext
        munger: stupid idea: copy a file that does not work locally and then back to the share and see what happens
      • Munger
        Good idea
      • That might iron out any glitches with character sets
      • outsidecontext
        exactly, that was my idea
      • Munger
        Hmmm. All working again now. I'm going to throw a few hundred files at it with --debug and watch the logs
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      • outsidecontext
        Munger: i just tested the file you send me on windows, served from a mounted samba share without --debug. works as expected
      • if the file is named ". mp3" or ".mp3 " it does not even show up in the file browser on the left as expected
      • i suggest you use the --debug workaround
      • Munger
        It's working for me now - with or without --debug. I started noticing the problem yesterday after about 5 hours of use. I am going to watch and see if it starts happening again
      • I'll keep the debug switch and hopefully it will catch comething if it happens
      • outsidecontext
        ok
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      • ruaok
        I'm sooo happy that the Mac UBs for picard are coming along nicely.
      • it took only 6 years to deliver on the promise of a mac tagger.
      • I wonder if Joi Ito will still fork over $500 for finally completing his challenge. :)
      • Muz
        I hope he does, then you can spend it all on hookers and blow.
      • ruaok sighs
      • ruaok
        I'd probably just spend it drinking beers with all y'all.
      • again
      • Munger
      • I have that album here yet picard won't match it
      • navap
        http://joi.ito.com/weblog/2003/03/07/robert-kay... "...allow the users to force a way to take shift control in the event that something like this might happen" hmm
      • Munger
        It damned well should math it. I added the release myself
      • navap
        Oh and, "He is using a sound fingerprint key method to identify the songs." Is that TRMs that he is talking about lol?
      • outsidecontext
        munger: get the album manually into picard (use the search functionallity inside of picard) and assign the tracks by dragging them to the new album
      • Munger: did you use "lookup" or "scan"
      • ?
      • Muz
        ruaok: I'm sure there are enough council estate hoochies who wouldn't say no if the price was right!
      • Munger
        Both. The puids have tomath, because the release was generated from my files
      • ruaok
        <3 hoochies
      • Munger
        How long does it take to propogate. Maybe it's just waiting for votes or something
      • outsidecontext
        munger: there are no PUIDs attached to the release yet (you didn't add them yet, so how should MB now)
      • warp
        ruaok: i'm still wondering what I need to set in pythonpath to run it from the commandline (haven't looked at it properly).
      • outsidecontext
        Munger: yes, the search might not yet find it
      • ruaok
        that was with open Picard.app, right?
      • outsidecontext
        Munger: really, just load that release manually into picard (you know the green tagger buttons?)
      • luks
        I use to just drag the release link to picard, but I found out it doesn't work on windows
      • need to figure out what's wrong
      • Munger
        Found it now. I'm still learning to use Picard
      • outsidecontext
        luks: yes, i just wondered that too
      • warp
        ruaok: no, 'open Picard.app' doesn't pass on the commandline arguments.
      • ruaok
        ah.
      • warp
        and this: warp [at peach]:~$ python2.5 /Applications/MusicBrainz\ Picard.app/Contents/Resources/tagger.py ~/music/tmp
      • gets me this: ImportError: No module named picard.tagger
      • ruaok
        wow something that is fully replicable. not even path changes needed. that's rare
      • warp
        so, i try this:
      • arp [at peach]:~$ PYTHONPATH=/Applications/MusicBrainz\ Picard.app/Contents/Resources/lib/python2.5 python2.5 /Applications/MusicBrainz\ Picard.app/Contents/Resources/tagger.py ~/music/tmp
      • ruaok
        that would be my next guess too
      • warp
        but then it can't find qt. which i would've expected are in the default pythonpath.
      • luks
        tagger.py shouldn't be even included in the package
      • warp
        oh, hm.
      • luks
        if Picard.app doesn't pass the arguments, that shold be fixed
      • warp
        luks: how do i start it then?
      • luks
        I don't know, but unless you run from the source tree, you shoudln't be using tagger.py
      • ruaok
        I get a zlib error.
      • luks
        it's not installed on linux or windows
      • and I think it shouldn't be on mac either
      • warp
        ok
      • warp liked tagger.py :)
      • ruaok
        heh. its kinda needed.
      • it itself is being used as the script to launch the app.
      • luks
        hm?
      • it definitely shouldn't be
      • ruaok
        yeah, if tagger.py isn't there it refuses to load