#musicbrainz

I use gtkpod to stick music on it.

LotR: your average Macfag is "iTunes! Music" they don't think to browse the actual FS itself.

iTunes handles all that for them.

I don't see why they can't just scan it to find any new files and add them to the database it has

most of them usic i want to take along is not in my itunes library

plus things on the acer doesnt even have an itunes installed

i want a mp3*player* not a mp3*database*

muz: yes, I understand that. what I don't understand is how that prevents it from also having a simple FS interface

srsly

nikki: it also centralises things.

don't get it

CatCat: there are many programs you can use to upload songs to ipod

LotR: there are addons that allow for that. When you plug in the iPod the FS of the music files isn't even normally revealed iirc.

luks: the thing is, i don't *want* to use a "program" i want to use folders and my mouse dtragging files :)

CatCat: then you don't want an ipod :)

and definitly no foldes on the damn player

that's just disorganising

I personally never browse my music files via filesystem

luks: exactly :)

I personally prefer the idea of navigating my music via metadata as opposed to files and folders. Regardless of how impeccable my file sorting is.

luks: i always do.

At least, on a portable media player.

Also makes it easier for adding andd finding albums obtained from other sources.

I have my files in the same structure as I play them, so it works either way for me

Muz: the file system allows for arbitrary hierarchies, i use that.

see thi is why i am at an upror, becasue everybody is like "metadata! "database!" i'm like "i want a PLAYER! D:"

The main thing that I like about my ipod is that it's 160GB.

warp: but not for multiple views

and like uh 8 gigs is eve to muc

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luks: yeah, that is a problem.

160GB is not enough.

uh

luks: which i could solve on unix with some symlinking, but currently don't.

The interface is pretty easy to use, and I can use it through my trouser pocket (handy when cycling), and the browse-by-artist/album etc. works well. But that's mainly because my collection's fairly neat and tidy.

I want to throw all my music on there and forget about selecting what to take with me.

warp: symlinks are hard to update

I want the same thing as Muz, but I can just about do that in 160GB.

luks: yes, it's not a very good solution, i agree :)

i want to select what to take with me and thne not worry abotu what to select once it'spalying

creature: I'm thinking I should selotape a UPS, external harddrive and laptop together, and use that as my MP3 player. ¬_¬

herlighet, my acer is 160 gigs

exactly

lol muz

You could pay a cover band to follow you around all day.

creature: haha, excellent

whatever, take my problem as a joke, i don't care

CatCat: I understand why it annoys you, it annoys me too that I haven't found what I want yet

i'm never going to find the mp3 player with the specs *I* want

CatCat: iRivers let you browse by FS, drag and drop and have more space

iriver?

Even if you don't want or need that extra space, so what that it's there?

Nothing to do with an iPod too.

ok?

yea i figured

luks: i'm not sure how to capture my arbitrary hierarchies in metadata though. i think i may be able to do that in musicbrainz through the folksonomy tags, but I only have part of my library tagged that way, so haven't given it much thought.

does it have screens?

screen*

is thesound qulaity good there?

Yes, and it's good enough for I.

hmmmmm

ooh fm radio

Yeah, there's that too, but I'll be damned if I use tht.

Seeing as I mostly use mine on the Underground.

whats te differnce with flash and hardrive, (exept the obvious)

But Muz, that's a flash video.

Space and read/write speeds.

hard drives have moving parts too

So does your mum.

really?

flash is faster?

my mom movews no more

hn, changable firmware

That's a pointless gimmick. :)

ifi dont liek wtf it does soemthing it isn't :)

you can change the firmware of an ipod too ;)

fuck ipods

LotR: it's also pretty pointless on there too.

I doubt it'd be satisfying, CatCat :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/t... <<-- :O

it looks.. liek my phone

:O

muz!

you're awesome

I know.

cool

does thething you have have a "touch screen"

?

butthurt

whoops, wrong channel

No

Only physical buttons, the screen is for display only.

I'm still using my phone, haven't found a suitable player.

Although now that I bought MacBook, I'll probably have to buy iPod, iPhone, TimeCapsule and other useless things.

I have a macbook but nothing else from apple :P

I don't know about ipod and iphone, but timecapsule is nice if you want to have backups

srotta: don't forget your iHead up your iArse.

CatCat: By the way, they're selling salt & vinegar chips in Finland too.

Muz: Done already.

yes, I can confirm that too

Do they seriously not sell salt + vinegar crisps in Norway? I know that they're a bit behind the times and uncivilised there, but come on...

Oh, look at the time, home time.

CatCat: Not that it helps you, but they are made by Estrella, so they are probably available in Sweden as well. Which still may not help you. :D

muz: decades ago they had a "test" of those, but for some reason it didn't seel well here or something, it was the first and only taste i had of it

srotta: eeehh, sweden?

i wil have to ask soem sweede if they have it there, i was planning on *maybe* doing aonther trip over rthere

CatCat: It's the country to the left of you.

in the spring

No make that right.

Damn.

8)

hahaha you're confused

halla symphonick

Roasted garlic & salt is good combination as well.

ÆÆHHH

Salt & Vinegar

it says "new"

omg

hallå CatCat :)

estrella is the partner/owner/aquvalent/wtfdoiknow of maarud here, maybe.. oohhhh

they have icea here, but no sockerdrycka

heh. salt and vinegar chips are called "douche chips" here. :)

very fitting for muz, methinks

hey symphonick, can you do me a a really big favour? see if they sell that estrella Salt & Vinegar in ica?

at ica*

Support of Replay Gain (volume normalization), gapless playback and Last.fm <-- D: uuhhh firmwhare upgrade for iriver

CatCat: I'll keep an eye open when I'm shopping, promise.

heheh: http://www.flownet.com/ron/css-rant.html "But when it comes to layout, the design of CSS is fundamentally flawed. Use tables instead."

symphonick: awesome! tusen tack!

ruaok: that's what I've been tryingto say! :p

trying to say what? WAGA POLY KLEPTO?

yea!

waga poly klepto narf!

:-)

which iRiver?

the one that can play oggs

(I hope)

there's not just 1 iRiver that can play oggs

well, ones that can

I wouldn't be asking for the model if I wanted "well, some iRiver" as answer :P