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      • ruaok
        thx
      • 2009-02-03 03411, 2009

      • ruaok
        brianfreud is doing the same.
      • 2009-02-03 03416, 2009

      • nikki
        I still don't really see what it would offer though, you can't vote, edit or leave a note without logging in, why is the edit history relevant to someone who's not bothered about changing it/querying it/voting on it?
      • 2009-02-03 03418, 2009

      • aCiD2
        cool
      • 2009-02-03 03455, 2009

      • aCiD2
        I thought we were genarally leaning towards a "simple interface for anonymous, editor interface for... editors"
      • 2009-02-03 03403, 2009

      • aCiD2
        showing edit history goes a bit against this
      • 2009-02-03 03422, 2009

      • ruaok thinks it should be possible to view edit histories without being logged in.
      • 2009-02-03 03433, 2009

      • ruaok
        not by default, but if the user asks to see them.
      • 2009-02-03 03444, 2009

      • nikki
        how exactly would that work? o_O
      • 2009-02-03 03421, 2009

      • ruaok just cares if if they click to see the history, they are not required to log in.
      • 2009-02-03 03426, 2009

      • ruaok
        however that can happen.
      • 2009-02-03 03429, 2009

      • brianfreud
        nikki: perhaps you're curious as to why something in the data shows as it does, but you don't care enough to actually register/log in?
      • 2009-02-03 03435, 2009

      • brianfreud
        ruaok: agreed :)
      • 2009-02-03 03459, 2009

      • nikki
        I'm confused by the "not by default, but if the user asks to see them" bit
      • 2009-02-03 03412, 2009

      • brianfreud
        ie, clicks the View Edits link
      • 2009-02-03 03422, 2009

      • nikki
        but that's the default?
      • 2009-02-03 03428, 2009

      • ruaok
        nikki: ignore tha.
      • 2009-02-03 03429, 2009

      • ruaok
        that
      • 2009-02-03 03402, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ha, my voicemail thing is funny. at the end it goes "That's the last voicemail" but in the tone of voice like "now what do you want? I read them all didn't it? what's your problem?"
      • 2009-02-03 03406, 2009

      • aCiD2 chuckles
      • 2009-02-03 03423, 2009

      • aCiD2
      • 2009-02-03 03427, 2009

      • aCiD2
        \o/
      • 2009-02-03 03458, 2009

      • ruaok
        \ø/
      • 2009-02-03 03421, 2009

      • aCiD2
        need some advice here... http://musicbrainz.org/release/224f051b-f871-4d1e… has all tracks credited to Madlib, but on the CD, it seems to credit the actual rappers
      • 2009-02-03 03438, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ie, it's written as "Blow the Horns On 'Em - Guilty Simpson"
      • 2009-02-03 03441, 2009

      • aCiD2
        should I change it to that?
      • 2009-02-03 03401, 2009

      • brianfreud groans at this: "This table displays a list of Releases released recently." :D
      • 2009-02-03 03437, 2009

      • aCiD2
        haha
      • 2009-02-03 03417, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: any image links?
      • 2009-02-03 03441, 2009

      • Wizzcat
      • 2009-02-03 03451, 2009

      • aCiD2
        there you go :)
      • 2009-02-03 03429, 2009

      • warp
        yes, i would change the track artists.
      • 2009-02-03 03429, 2009

      • Wizzcat
        and it's a hard one since he produces all the tracks
      • 2009-02-03 03438, 2009

      • Wizzcat
        but I guess sleeve takes presedence
      • 2009-02-03 03444, 2009

      • aCiD2
        Cool, I thought so
      • 2009-02-03 03451, 2009

      • warp
        he can still be in the release artist field :)
      • 2009-02-03 03458, 2009

      • aCiD2
        yea, that's what I was planning
      • 2009-02-03 03409, 2009

      • warp
        is it any good?
      • 2009-02-03 03428, 2009

      • aCiD2
        Hit and miss
      • 2009-02-03 03436, 2009

      • aCiD2
        The actual tracks are /really/ good
      • 2009-02-03 03444, 2009

      • aCiD2
        but there's a lot of usual Madlib abstractness
      • 2009-02-03 03450, 2009

      • aCiD2
        which, on first release wasn't amazing...
      • 2009-02-03 03407, 2009

      • aCiD2
        But I'd give it a 4/5 :)
      • 2009-02-03 03423, 2009

      • warp shall acquire it.
      • 2009-02-03 03430, 2009

      • aCiD2
        MBChatLogger: off
      • 2009-02-03 03430, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging
      • 2009-02-03 03443, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        is logging
      • 2009-02-03 03410, 2009

      • aCiD2
        What about "The Beat Konducta" -- Madlib has that as an alias atm, but this CD has tracks credited to The Beat Konducta /and/ Madlib
      • 2009-02-03 03422, 2009

      • warp
        i'd split it up
      • 2009-02-03 03433, 2009

      • warp
        not sure about the release artist though... which uses both >_<
      • 2009-02-03 03438, 2009

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      • warp
        but the tracks are clear.
      • 2009-02-03 03405, 2009

      • Wizzcat
        possibly because he didn't produce that track aCiD2
      • 2009-02-03 03428, 2009

      • aCiD2
        Wizzcat: correct, he's rapping as Madlib, producing as Beat Konducta
      • 2009-02-03 03440, 2009

      • Wizzcat
        split then, no doubt
      • 2009-02-03 03445, 2009

      • aCiD2
        roger that
      • 2009-02-03 03400, 2009

      • warp
        aCiD2: so the 'The Beat Koducta' tracks are instrumental?
      • 2009-02-03 03402, 2009

      • Wizzcat
        no idea who to credit to though ;)
      • 2009-02-03 03431, 2009

      • aCiD2
        warp: other than samples, yea
      • 2009-02-03 03401, 2009

      • warp
        i wouldn't want to invoke the wrath of those against all this artist duplication, and would probably pick just 'Madlib' as the release artist.
      • 2009-02-03 03445, 2009

      • aCiD2
        I'm going to keep the release artist as Madlib probably
      • 2009-02-03 03458, 2009

      • aCiD2 wishes we had artist credits
      • 2009-02-03 03402, 2009

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      • warp has quit
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      • warp_
        warp_ is now known as warp
      • 2009-02-03 03425, 2009

      • aCiD2
        Anyone able to recommend a good host (eu) that has full shell access?
      • 2009-02-03 03428, 2009

      • aCiD2
        who are you with warp?
      • 2009-02-03 03421, 2009

      • ruaok
        whatchu need?
      • 2009-02-03 03428, 2009

      • ruaok
        is it personal or work related?
      • 2009-02-03 03434, 2009

      • aCiD2
        personal
      • 2009-02-03 03450, 2009

      • aCiD2
        SliceHost seems to give me 70kbps upload and 200kbps download (rsync) which does not seem at all right
      • 2009-02-03 03406, 2009

      • aCiD2
        seeing as this uni connection uploads to sendspace at about 1mbps
      • 2009-02-03 03429, 2009

      • Muz
        aCiD2: hetzner
      • 2009-02-03 03434, 2009

      • aCiD2
        yea?
      • 2009-02-03 03437, 2009

      • Muz
        Based in germany, cheap, but damn good
      • 2009-02-03 03440, 2009

      • Muz
        It's all in German though
      • 2009-02-03 03444, 2009

      • Muz
        Go go google translate.
      • 2009-02-03 03452, 2009

      • aCiD2
        I get something in South Africa
      • 2009-02-03 03404, 2009

      • Muz
        S'bit far.
      • 2009-02-03 03415, 2009

      • aCiD2
        Oh, they do Germany and South Africa
      • 2009-02-03 03417, 2009

      • aCiD2
        weird mix
      • 2009-02-03 03438, 2009

      • alastairp
        aCiD2: I think rimuhosting have eu machines
      • 2009-02-03 03442, 2009

      • alastairp
        (.com)
      • 2009-02-03 03445, 2009

      • aCiD2
        Hmm, I'd rather a host that I can actually speak to
      • 2009-02-03 03412, 2009

      • ruaok
        the germans all understand english.
      • 2009-02-03 03414, 2009

      • aCiD2
        yay, london servers there alastairp
      • 2009-02-03 03418, 2009

      • ruaok
        shit, even muz can do it.
      • 2009-02-03 03422, 2009

      • aCiD2
        ruaok: I know, but I don't understand german :)
      • 2009-02-03 03437, 2009

      • ruaok
        they can also speak english. :-)
      • 2009-02-03 03441, 2009

      • aCiD2
        heh
      • 2009-02-03 03456, 2009

      • srotta
        I was in CeBit a few years ago, rented a room from a local family.
      • 2009-02-03 03409, 2009

      • srotta
        It was sort of interesting. I didn't speak German, they didn't speak English.
      • 2009-02-03 03441, 2009

      • aCiD2
        heh
      • 2009-02-03 03429, 2009

      • ruaok
        srotta: were they older?
      • 2009-02-03 03442, 2009

      • ruaok
        I think most people 40 and younger will speak english.
      • 2009-02-03 03446, 2009

      • srotta
        ruaok: 30-40.
      • 2009-02-03 03458, 2009

      • nikki
        ruaok: but not necessarily very well :P
      • 2009-02-03 03459, 2009

      • ruaok
        wow.
      • 2009-02-03 03408, 2009

      • ruaok
        nikki: ya, who cares tho.
      • 2009-02-03 03414, 2009

      • srotta
        Closer to 40 probably, but their children were quite young.
      • 2009-02-03 03426, 2009

      • ruaok
        wo ist das schwarzbrot?
      • 2009-02-03 03436, 2009

      • aCiD2
        where is the what now?
      • 2009-02-03 03437, 2009

      • ruaok
        is all you need to know when staying with a german family. :-)
      • 2009-02-03 03445, 2009

      • ruaok
        black bread. :-)
      • 2009-02-03 03454, 2009

      • aCiD2
        wassat?
      • 2009-02-03 03403, 2009

      • srotta
        They also had swords and bloody garments on their walls, which was pretty interesting decoration.
      • 2009-02-03 03403, 2009

      • ruaok
        very dark bread.
      • 2009-02-03 03416, 2009

      • aCiD2
        srotta: sounds homely
      • 2009-02-03 03420, 2009

      • Milosz
        pumpernickel
      • 2009-02-03 03434, 2009

      • nikki
        komisches brot :P
      • 2009-02-03 03440, 2009

      • Milosz
        lol ja
      • 2009-02-03 03458, 2009

      • ruaok
        Milosz: no, not really. pumpernickel is different.
      • 2009-02-03 03402, 2009

      • ruaok
        darker, sweeter.
      • 2009-02-03 03404, 2009

      • srotta
        Yeah, I don't know what kind of trophy room I was in 8)
      • 2009-02-03 03418, 2009

      • Milosz
        yeah i just felt reminded
      • 2009-02-03 03456, 2009

      • brianfreud
        aCiD2: I'm confused - for search results, in root/search/external.tt, where is the template that actually gives the layout for the results?
      • 2009-02-03 03417, 2009

      • srotta
        I'm not too fond of German breads. I don't know why, they all seem to have sort of oily and heavy texture.
      • 2009-02-03 03430, 2009

      • aCiD2
        brianfreud: there isn't
      • 2009-02-03 03435, 2009

      • aCiD2
        search.musicbrainz.org does the layout
      • 2009-02-03 03442, 2009

      • aCiD2
        I think it should return JSON, but it doesn't, it returns HTML
      • 2009-02-03 03444, 2009

      • brianfreud
        ah
      • 2009-02-03 03449, 2009

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      • ruaok
        aCiD2: it can return xml or html.
      • 2009-02-03 03430, 2009

      • ruaok
        the idea was to make the handling of searches fast. I didn't want *another* processor post-processing the results.
      • 2009-02-03 03402, 2009

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      • brianfreud
        aCiD2: just noticed, label.end_date and label.begin_date never return anything other than null.
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      • aCiD2
        oh?
      • 2009-02-03 03406, 2009

      • aCiD2
        file a bug please
      • 2009-02-03 03413, 2009

      • aCiD2 will hopefully actually have some time to work on mb tomorrow
      • 2009-02-03 03416, 2009

      • brianfreud
        trying to solve it here first :)
      • 2009-02-03 03434, 2009

      • czaanja has quit
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      • ruaok wonders if aCiD2 will have time to show him the Catalyst::Model::Adaptor example
      • 2009-02-03 03425, 2009

      • aCiD2
        Should do :)
      • 2009-02-03 03450, 2009

      • alastairp
        aCiD2: rimu do open source developer discounts too
      • 2009-02-03 03458, 2009

      • alastairp
        just confirming with them what that means
      • 2009-02-03 03459, 2009

      • aCiD2
        i went with ovh in the end
      • 2009-02-03 03403, 2009

      • aCiD2
        heh
      • 2009-02-03 03442, 2009

      • alastairp
        ah, right
      • 2009-02-03 03443, 2009

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      • aCiD2
        turned out best value for money
      • 2009-02-03 03417, 2009

      • alastairp
        how much?
      • 2009-02-03 03419, 2009

      • aCiD2
        £20/mo - for 250gb hdd and a beefy connection
      • 2009-02-03 03421, 2009

      • aCiD2
        MBChatLogger: off
      • 2009-02-03 03421, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging
      • 2009-02-03 03430, 2009

      • MBChatLogger
        is logging
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      • alastairp
        ah, that's a large disk :-P