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      • navap
        pbryan: First add the release group to the artist, then from inside it add your release(s).
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      • navap
        pronik`: RSS is so much easier to manage then getting an email for each change, don't know why I didn't think of that before. Thanks!
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      • voiceinsideyou
        you around sir navap?
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      • navap
        Hey
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      • navap
        Sir? hah
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      • voiceinsideyou
        hell, you're like royalty to me; from zero to hero at MB in a space of weeks :D
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      • navap
        heh, thanks I guess, not sure how much of a hero I am though :p
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      • voiceinsideyou
        i was gonna ask; i've noticed you have a preference towards using ; rather than * (ul) on the wiki. What does the semicolon officially mean?
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      • navap
        <dt>
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      • navap
        And then a : basically maens a <dd>
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      • navap
        DT is for a definition term, DD for the definition proper.
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      • navap
        I just think it looks much nicer, and makes it easier to scan the page and see whats relevant.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        Hmm, but multiple colons allows increasing indent - how is that related to DDs?
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      • navap
        I'm not sure if the colon is actually equivelent for a DD, but I'm pretty sure about the semi colon being a DT.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        right
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      • navap
        I think you can nest DDs though, so they could be the same.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        to be honest, i've never used or seen dds or dts in HTML
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      • voiceinsideyou
        but it's not like I ever create or edit the cutting edge of html :)
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      • navap
        I don't see them often either, I just know they exist.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        i'm usually surprised if i see someone using a span style instead of <font in the HTML i come across :)
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      • voiceinsideyou
        checkout the weird stuff that has happened to the bulleted list and "What it does" section at http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Edit_Note
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      • navap
        What the hell..
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      • voiceinsideyou
        indeed
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      • navap
        Why did a huge chunk of the page just disappear...
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      • voiceinsideyou
        nothing contentious in the sourc
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      • navap
        It's not using the proper bullet either.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        yeah
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      • navap
        It should be using the blue one that is used on MediaWiki.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        i'll hack around and see if I can work out what's causing it
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      • voiceinsideyou
        hmm, i'm making edits, but they;re not actually visible on the /doc page
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      • voiceinsideyou
        wtf
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      • voiceinsideyou
        it's non transclusion-indexed, so should be immediately visible right :/
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      • navap
        No I thik there is an hour wait.
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      • navap
        You could transclude it, that would make them show up instantly.
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      • navap
        After updating the index of course.
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      • navap
        er updating the revision in the table.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        i didn't think there used to be an hour wait :/
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      • navap
        There wasn't when it was on test.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        i mean for Moin
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      • navap
        I'm not sure, I was under the impression that there was, but I didn't do much editing then.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        ok, the problem is a bad link...
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      • voiceinsideyou
        possibly a similar issue to a broken template inclusion breaking the page structure
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      • navap
        Which bad link?
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      • navap
        Interesting.
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      • navap
        That's the first time that I've noticed the page content disappearing. 
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      • voiceinsideyou
        any bad link. i'll make a test page, but if you put a link like [[Yo Momma]] into a section of a page, all of the text prior to the bad link, back to the start of that section gets removed
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      • navap
        http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Proposed_Menu In the first paragraph, "Instead with WikiDocs the SiteMenu". SiteMenu is a broken link.
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      • navap
        I tested ruaok's regex out on a couple of pages, and I didn't notice this problem before.
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      • navap
        There must be something else besides just the fact that's it's a redlink.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        well, i removed the bullets and it wasn't that
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      • voiceinsideyou
        maybe if it's the first link in the sentence/section? maybe only for === ?
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      • navap
        hm
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      • voiceinsideyou
        Okay, confirmed. if the broken link is the first in the section: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Chad_Test vs http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Chad_Test
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      • navap
        Possibly something off with this loop? http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/browser/mb_server/bra…
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      • navap
        All the content is still there, just the headers are off.
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      • navap
        With Edit Note some of the content wasn't there at all.
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      • navap
        Oh wait, nvm.
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      • navap
        Yeah the colon is a the same thing as a <dd>, and two colons ends up being <dd><dl><dd>Foo.
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      • voiceinsideyou
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      • navap
        Should the component be marked as WikiDocs?
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      • navap
        I'm adding myself as a cc, so I can edit it.
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      • voiceinsideyou
        it was supposed to be :p
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      • jacobbrett
        I've got an Inside Out live bootleg, one track was (accidentally?) split in two (at the time of recording I'm presuming) and called 2. 'Burning', 3. 'Fight'. Should I rename both tracks to 'Burning Fight', or 'Burning Fight, Part 1/2'?
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      • navap
        So the song itself should be called "Burning Fight"? Perhaps the last option would be best, "Burning Fight, Part 1" and "Burning Fight, Part 2".
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      • jacobbrett
        I was thinking that, but the wiki specifically states thats to be used for tracks that are part of a series, whereas this is not technically the case..
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      • jacobbrett
        its not reversable either.. I wouldn't write 'Burning Fight, Parts 1 & 2' if it were the complete song on one track..
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      • jacobbrett
        sorry, yeah, the track is 'Burning Fight'
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      • navap
        There are some cases where a track "Foo" is split on some releases into "Foo, Part 1" and "Foo, Part 2", but written as just "Foo" when they're both together.
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      • navap
        Based on what you've told me, thats what makes sense to me. Maybe someone else can suggest something else.
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      • jacobbrett
        hmm, fair enough
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      • jacobbrett
        Well, unless someone else can give me better reasoning I guess I'll go with Part 1/2
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      • cyberpear
        I have a question about ASIN's -- One of my edits was voted down because the asin was an import, but that's the only way that amazon has the release. Does that mean that the release shouldn't have an ASIN at all?
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      • cyberpear
        on amazon.co.uk, it isn't listed as an import, but it has the same ASIN over there -- does that mean I should make the relationship URL be amazon.co.uk instead?
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      • Senilix
        yes.. use the url to the “closest” amazon shop :)
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      • cyberpear
        is there a list of amazon sites, or a way to find out which one it isn't an import at, in general?
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      • navap
        Just change the TLD from .com to .co.uk or .de etc. And you will be able to see the Amazon page for the other site.
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      • cyberpear
        the thing that really bugs me is that my edit was voted down seconds before it expired -- now I have failed edits on my profile; if it'd been voted against sooner, I could have just cancelled it
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      • lancerocke
        someone should make a sitewide announcement telling people to stop using discogs... i made an edit and someone said. "discogs doesnt mention this."... seriously... come on http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=10693643
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      • lancerocke
        'disgocs man'?
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      • navap
        I see nothing wrong with his note, he asked for proof and provided one place he had already looked. If you had provided proof at the time you edited the track I doubt he would have objected.
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      • lancerocke
        guess im just being silly about the fact that discogs sucks
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      • lancerocke
        but it really does
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      • pbryan
        navap: And if I want to add release from submit discid?
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      • navap
        hm Good question.
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      • pbryan
        Answer: You can't.
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      • pbryan
        You're going to get a new release group every time, then you have to merge.
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      • pbryan
        And because merge release group requires community moderation, every add-disc for a multi-disc release will require community moderation if added through submit discid.
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      • jesus2099
        uh oh
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      • jesus2099
        I agree with diiscogs not to be used as reference [as wikipedia, amazon, etc.] only official site when we don't have scan - other websites if we really don't have nor scan nor official site.
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