So what are we doing about an archival namespace, pages that deal with TRMs definitely don't need to be in the wiki anymore, but deleting them isn't really necessary either. After all we keep all the ML archives.
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ruaok
I think if we keep some bits that we used to use TRM thats fine. but we can nuke the other pages.
2009-05-11 13136, 2009
ruaok
there is history and then there is clutter :-)
2009-05-11 13146, 2009
ijabz
Trying to use SMART-SVN on Mac to create a patch for two files, but one file is brand new so it wont let me create a patch, anyone know what Im meant to do ?
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pronik
ruaok: could we just rewrite some main "Musicbrainz History" page and delete all the rest?
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ruaok
ijabz: you should be able to svn add the new file to your local repo.
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ruaok
then svn diff will include the file.
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ruaok
pronik: sure
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pronik
I personally haven't see the "great disaster" and I'd like to read a small paragraph about it, not several pages of "relief" docs...
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ruaok nods
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ruaok
the less I am reminded of that, the better.
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pronik
same goes for any kind of history, actually. Integration and removal
2009-05-11 13141, 2009
pronik
it interferes severely with search -- always finding some stupid "glorious history" article...
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navap
Someone has to do the integration though.
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navap
That's true.
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ijabz
ruaok:cheers, got it
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pronik
ruaok: btw, I've sent out the mail
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ruaok
saw it, thanks.
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pronik
oh jeez.... "History_Of_Featuring_Artist_Style"? Why, for God's sake?
2009-05-11 13123, 2009
navap
"dick skin" That's a phrase I haven't heard before.
2009-05-11 13149, 2009
pronik
damn
2009-05-11 13149, 2009
Muz
pronik: to stop people bitching, whining and rehashing old conversations on the MLs? Oh. Wait.
2009-05-11 13105, 2009
pronik
navap: that should be thick, correcting right away
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navap
lol okay :)
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pronik
Muz: I assume I can estimate the amount of bithing that proposal will produce, so I tried to temper that
2009-05-11 13159, 2009
Muz
There's a reason I barely bother with the style list these days.
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navap quickly goes and defaces the Wikipedia article on Thick Skin :p
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Muz
pronik's coming onto Timothy's dick skin.
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Muz
OLOLOLOLOL
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pronik
I need some one-click way to propose wiki articles for deletion....
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Muz
Go write a bash script.
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pronik
yeah, right, with what API? ;)
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pronik
ruaok: what's up with musicmoz lately? (strolling through old wiki pages ;))
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Muz
Who says you need one? If you can make HTTP calls to it, and you've got curl installed, you're set.
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ruaok shrugs
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navap
Phew, just went and deleted 14 articles from the deletion list and edited their linked pages.
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ruaok
yay
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pronik
yay indeed
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ruaok
aCiD2: ping
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aCiD2
pongogogogog
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ruaok
I want to run release-groups on test
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ruaok
but I'm not sure how you have things configged right now.
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ruaok
one sec.
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aCiD2
ah
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aCiD2
just do /etc/init.d/musicbrainz-fastcgi stop
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aCiD2
and stop apache2
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ruaok
ok, that helps a lot. :)
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pronik
damn, don't we have some other test.mb server?
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pronik
or better: subdomain?
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MBChatLogger
ruaok probably meant ' we have two more instances of TT running on test.musicbrainz.org '
2009-05-11 13124, 2009
ruaok
we have two more instances of TT running on test.mb.org
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pronik
I'd like to have the last non-ngs-broken tt version somewhere
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pronik
:3000?
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aCiD2
81
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ruaok
yeah.
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ruaok
3000 is BF, I think.
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luks
pronik: why?
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aCiD2
nope, no 3000 - there's 81 and 82
2009-05-11 13115, 2009
pronik
to draw mockups before they are redone
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aCiD2
but they seem to be down...
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luks
shouldn't you be drawing mockups for the non-existant site?
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pronik
yes, but I want to start from the current state, also to get a better feeling of current shortcomings
2009-05-11 13137, 2009
pronik
oh well, I could start my copy anyway...
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ruaok
aCiD2: I took them down.
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ruaok
and that grand plan will not work.
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ruaok
DBD::Pg version conflicts.
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aCiD2
ah
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aCiD2
I never have any trouble with dbd::pg
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ruaok
I do.
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ruaok
well, test can go back to TT on may24.
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aCiD2
:) problem with arrays?
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ruaok
yes
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aCiD2
cool
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GoCatMachine
[23:17] <pronik> ruaok: could we just rewrite some main "Musicbrainz History" page and delete all the rest? that's what i was thinking. include a lot of the glorious history bits ito a age "musicbrainz history"
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pronik
GoCatMachine: yes?
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GoCatMachine
yes, i agree
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GoCatMachine
that's what i was thinking. include a lot of the glorious history bits ito a age "musicbrainz history"
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GoCatMachine
into a page
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GoCatMachine
i need to purchase a can of air for this keyboard, i can't turn the laptop upside down and start wacking hard
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GoCatMachine
it can break it
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pronik
we've got one line this, called "musicbrainz history"
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GoCatMachine
:)
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pronik
it needs a bit more content :)
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GoCatMachine
yes
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GoCatMachine
unfortunatly i don't know the earliest things, and well.. i am not really good at writing consize bits
2009-05-11 13126, 2009
GoCatMachine
there are bits i don't know
2009-05-11 13140, 2009
GoCatMachine
behind the shenes cra about the geat debate and what not
2009-05-11 13147, 2009
GoCatMachine
oh and anybody remember SG5?
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navap
There actually is a page called "MusicBrainz History" btw.
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GoCatMachine
yea i know
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pronik
you could at least extract the bits from other unneeded articles and put them in there
2009-05-11 13104, 2009
GoCatMachine
needs improvement.
2009-05-11 13115, 2009
GoCatMachine
there should be a page which lists all lthe templates we have too
2009-05-11 13126, 2009
navap
Special:AllPages
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GoCatMachine
pronik: dood. don't tell me, i am the guy that worked on the wiki all thuesday :p
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GoCatMachine
no i mean a page which has all the templates inline, maybe a text or wne to use it, i'd like that
2009-05-11 13117, 2009
pronik
"at least" meaning "no need to rewrite, let's collect first"
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GoCatMachine
after i finish with this task, i'll go look at the wiki
2009-05-11 13131, 2009
navap
What do you mean has them inline?
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GoCatMachine
indead, first collect and gather info, then procede to pice togheter
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GoCatMachine
uh
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GoCatMachine
as on one page
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navap
Arent they all on one page on that link?
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GoCatMachine
nevermind, i'll make a thingy of it on a subpage to show whati mean
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GoCatMachine
tomorow, it's getting late here and i need to get to bed i na good time, to stop the neigbours from collecting more shit on me
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navap
lol I just deleted the wiki article that was used in MoinMoin to list all the templates, please don't create a new one :)