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      • navap
        So what are we doing about an archival namespace, pages that deal with TRMs definitely don't need to be in the wiki anymore, but deleting them isn't really necessary either. After all we keep all the ML archives.
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      • ruaok
        I think if we keep some bits that we used to use TRM thats fine. but we can nuke the other pages.
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      • ruaok
        there is history and then there is clutter :-)
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      • ijabz
        Trying to use SMART-SVN on Mac to create a patch for two files, but one file is brand new so it wont let me create a patch, anyone know what Im meant to do ?
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      • pronik
        ruaok: could we just rewrite some main "Musicbrainz History" page and delete all the rest?
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      • ruaok
        ijabz: you should be able to svn add the new file to your local repo.
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      • ruaok
        then svn diff will include the file.
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      • ruaok
        pronik: sure
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      • pronik
        I personally haven't see the "great disaster" and I'd like to read a small paragraph about it, not several pages of "relief" docs...
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      • ruaok nods
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      • ruaok
        the less I am reminded of that, the better.
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      • pronik
        same goes for any kind of history, actually. Integration and removal
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      • pronik
        it interferes severely with search -- always finding some stupid "glorious history" article...
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      • navap
        Someone has to do the integration though.
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      • navap
        That's true.
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      • ijabz
        ruaok:cheers, got it
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      • pronik
        ruaok: btw, I've sent out the mail
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      • ruaok
        saw it, thanks.
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      • pronik
        oh jeez.... "History_Of_Featuring_Artist_Style"? Why, for God's sake?
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      • navap
        "dick skin" That's a phrase I haven't heard before.
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      • pronik
        damn
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      • Muz
        pronik: to stop people bitching, whining and rehashing old conversations on the MLs? Oh. Wait.
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      • pronik
        navap: that should be thick, correcting right away
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      • navap
        lol okay :)
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      • pronik
        Muz: I assume I can estimate the amount of bithing that proposal will produce, so I tried to temper that
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      • Muz
        There's a reason I barely bother with the style list these days.
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      • navap quickly goes and defaces the Wikipedia article on Thick Skin :p
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      • Muz
        pronik's coming onto Timothy's dick skin.
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      • Muz
        OLOLOLOLOL
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      • pronik
        I need some one-click way to propose wiki articles for deletion....
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      • Muz
        Go write a bash script.
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      • pronik
        yeah, right, with what API? ;)
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      • pronik
        ruaok: what's up with musicmoz lately? (strolling through old wiki pages ;))
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      • Muz
        Who says you need one? If you can make HTTP calls to it, and you've got curl installed, you're set.
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      • ruaok shrugs
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      • navap
        Phew, just went and deleted 14 articles from the deletion list and edited their linked pages.
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      • ruaok
        yay
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      • pronik
        yay indeed
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      • ruaok
        aCiD2: ping
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      • aCiD2
        pongogogogog
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      • ruaok
        I want to run release-groups on test
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      • ruaok
        but I'm not sure how you have things configged right now.
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      • ruaok
        one sec.
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      • aCiD2
        ah
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      • aCiD2
        just do /etc/init.d/musicbrainz-fastcgi stop
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      • aCiD2
        and stop apache2
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      • ruaok
        ok, that helps a lot. :)
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      • pronik
        damn, don't we have some other test.mb server?
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      • pronik
        or better: subdomain?
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      • MBChatLogger
        ruaok probably meant ' we have two more instances of TT running on test.musicbrainz.org '
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      • ruaok
        we have two more instances of TT running on test.mb.org
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      • pronik
        I'd like to have the last non-ngs-broken tt version somewhere
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      • pronik
        :3000?
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      • aCiD2
        81
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      • ruaok
        yeah.
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      • ruaok
        3000 is BF, I think.
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      • luks
        pronik: why?
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      • aCiD2
        nope, no 3000 - there's 81 and 82
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      • pronik
        to draw mockups before they are redone
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      • aCiD2
        but they seem to be down...
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      • luks
        shouldn't you be drawing mockups for the non-existant site?
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      • pronik
        yes, but I want to start from the current state, also to get a better feeling of current shortcomings
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      • pronik
        oh well, I could start my copy anyway...
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      • ruaok
        aCiD2: I took them down.
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      • ruaok
        and that grand plan will not work.
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      • ruaok
        DBD::Pg version conflicts.
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      • aCiD2
        ah
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      • aCiD2
        I never have any trouble with dbd::pg
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      • ruaok
        I do.
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      • ruaok
        well, test can go back to TT on may24.
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      • aCiD2
        :) problem with arrays?
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      • ruaok
        yes
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      • aCiD2
        cool
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      • GoCatMachine
        [23:17] <pronik> ruaok: could we just rewrite some main "Musicbrainz History" page and delete all the rest? that's what i was thinking. include a lot of the glorious history bits ito a age "musicbrainz history"
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      • pronik
        GoCatMachine: yes?
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      • GoCatMachine
        yes, i agree
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      • GoCatMachine
        that's what i was thinking. include a lot of the glorious history bits ito a age "musicbrainz history"
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      • GoCatMachine
        into a page
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      • GoCatMachine
        i need to purchase a can of air for this keyboard, i can't turn the laptop upside down and start wacking hard
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      • GoCatMachine
        it can break it
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      • pronik
        we've got one line this, called "musicbrainz history"
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      • GoCatMachine
        :)
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      • pronik
        it needs a bit more content :)
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      • GoCatMachine
        yes
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      • GoCatMachine
        unfortunatly i don't know the earliest things, and well.. i am not really good at writing consize bits
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      • GoCatMachine
        there are bits i don't know
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      • GoCatMachine
        behind the shenes cra about the geat debate and what not
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      • GoCatMachine
        oh and anybody remember SG5?
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      • navap
        There actually is a page called "MusicBrainz History" btw.
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      • GoCatMachine
        yea i know
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      • pronik
        you could at least extract the bits from other unneeded articles and put them in there
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      • GoCatMachine
        needs improvement.
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      • GoCatMachine
        there should be a page which lists all lthe templates we have too
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      • navap
        Special:AllPages
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      • GoCatMachine
        pronik: dood. don't tell me, i am the guy that worked on the wiki all thuesday :p
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      • GoCatMachine
        no i mean a page which has all the templates inline, maybe a text or wne to use it, i'd like that
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      • pronik
        "at least" meaning "no need to rewrite, let's collect first"
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      • GoCatMachine
        after i finish with this task, i'll go look at the wiki
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      • navap
        What do you mean has them inline?
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      • GoCatMachine
        indead, first collect and gather info, then procede to pice togheter
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      • GoCatMachine
        uh
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      • GoCatMachine
        as on one page
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      • navap
        Arent they all on one page on that link?
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      • GoCatMachine
        nevermind, i'll make a thingy of it on a subpage to show whati mean
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      • GoCatMachine
        tomorow, it's getting late here and i need to get to bed i na good time, to stop the neigbours from collecting more shit on me
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      • navap
        lol I just deleted the wiki article that was used in MoinMoin to list all the templates, please don't create a new one :)
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      • GoCatMachine
        moinmoin hadtemplates?
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      • GoCatMachine
        loi
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      • navap
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      • GoCatMachine
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      • GoCatMachine
        loi glorious history
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      • GoCatMachine
        oh! what about pages like http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Same_Artist_With_Diff… with the stuff ontop?
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      • GoCatMachine
        do we need that?
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      • GoCatMachine
        discussion and edit are both links on the top of the page
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      • MBChatLogger
        navap probably meant ' Those are for the pages when they're displayed on musicbrainz.org/doc/Same_Artist_With_Different_Na… '
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      • navap
        Those are for the pages when they're displayed on mb.org/doc/Same_Artist_With_Different_Names
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      • GoCatMachine
        ehh
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      • GoCatMachine
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      • GoCatMachine
        404'd!
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      • navap
        Take out the underscores.
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      • ruaok
        /doc points to oldwiki
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      • GoCatMachine
        does the doc page need to have those things? . i believe that mediawiki has some mojo that lets you includenoly for things
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      • GoCatMachine
        so we could include only on doc pages
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      • GoCatMachine
        because on the editable wiki they're clutter, imho
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